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October Wrasslin' |OT| Celebrating 20 Years of the YET-AY!
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BronsonLee
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I'm curious to how you guys would debut Breeze now.
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Deleted member 47027
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It's the WWE when it listens to the fans. Taking some cues is fine, but you compromise your vision. It's just like everyone over on gaming side crying about "oh, there's nothing original out there" yet this is what the fanbase wants. They don't want original. They want familiar.
WWE should not listen to its fans. This ensures a unique product, if the person in charge of it has stories worth telling, and they do. The crowd as a whole can be help correct things when you have a surprise ala Daniel Bryan, but relying on the entire group to shape the whole story is a fool's errand and ensures the whole "we focus tested this to hell so MOST people would like it" is poor storytelling.
I somewhat agree, but i'm not sure where you're getting at.... what is the current situation then? How are you still defending Vince and his friends? What are the current storylines that makes you wanna watch RAW?
I get the argument you're making, but WWE makes blunders a lot more often from not listening to the fans than the opposite. Take Reigns for example: everyone and their grandmother knew that putting Reigns in the main event of WrestleMania was too much, too soon but Vince went full steam ahead anyway. And it lead to Reign's connection with the audience being shattered almost permanently and the first ever WrestleMania to lose a profit.
It's careful that we don't confuse what "listening to your fans" means.
It doesn't mean: Follow every single person's fantasy booking ideas.
It doesn't mean: Change every storyline every week based on your ratings.
It does mean: Listen to the crowd reactions to what you're doing and adjust the book accordingly.
It does mean: Book based on the needs of the audience of today. Don't act like it's 1995 and book for audiences that no longer exist, if you never change you won't gain new viewers and you'll just end up losing the ones that remain one by one until nobody's watching.
It doesn't mean: Follow every single person's fantasy booking ideas.
It doesn't mean: Change every storyline every week based on your ratings.
It does mean: Listen to the crowd reactions to what you're doing and adjust the book accordingly.
It does mean: Book based on the needs of the audience of today. Don't act like it's 1995 and book for audiences that no longer exist, if you never change you won't gain new viewers and you'll just end up losing the ones that remain one by one until nobody's watching.
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Speaking of bad decisions, 2k16 bought. Feel free to send your GWF submissions in on the PS4 platform.
I agree with this.
I know people sometimes exaggerate when criticizing WWE, which can be tiresome, but to defend it in it's current state and direction is something I can't understand, honestly.
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Deleted member 47027
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Good news:
– WWE has reportedly signed Tough Enough competitors Mada Abdelhamid and Daria Berenato to developmental deals, according to PWInsider.
Both Mada and Daria started at the WWE Performance Center on Tuesday. This comes after Patrick Clark was also signed in the past week. He reported to work on Monday.
WWE has now signed Mada, Daria, finalists Zamariah “ZZ” Loupe and Amanda Saccomanno, as well as winners Sara Lee and Josh Bredl.
Honestly, Mada NEEDED to be signed. Dude has good things all around him.
– WWE has reportedly signed Tough Enough competitors Mada Abdelhamid and Daria Berenato to developmental deals, according to PWInsider.
Both Mada and Daria started at the WWE Performance Center on Tuesday. This comes after Patrick Clark was also signed in the past week. He reported to work on Monday.
WWE has now signed Mada, Daria, finalists Zamariah “ZZ” Loupe and Amanda Saccomanno, as well as winners Sara Lee and Josh Bredl.
Honestly, Mada NEEDED to be signed. Dude has good things all around him.
Ninja Scooter
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What's the hold up on Gigi, Vince?
Frecklestein
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Sibersk Esto
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Cesaro debuted on Smackdown by cuckolding Teddy Long with Aksana.
#2Kuality
Barack Lesnar
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Did you think this would make you look cool or something? Notice how not a single person acknowledged your post after, not one person did. If I had called you a bitch and a motherfucker like you just did me you would've tattled to the mods. Your reply was on tilt for no reason other than trying to come off like a badass and you failed to do that...no one even acknowledged your post.
"My one serious post per month"...you're the reason why a thread on Raw ratings in Off-topic is better than any official Wrasslin OT for the past year+. It's because the thread is run rampant with gimmick posters like yourself that make "one serious post per month".
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Deleted member 47027
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In my defense, I
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with debuting Breeze on Smackdown especially with his gimmick. He needs a slow start to build that character up on a big stage. It's way better than beating Cena in your first match and then becoming just another dude in the midcard, fans won't get those huge expectations that comes with such a debut (remember when we earnestly discussed an Owens/Brock match). I love Tyler and wish he'd gotten one last hurrah run at the NXT belt but sadly it looks not to be.
It's also clear they are prepping Smackdown for the USA move - Xavier's trombone was broken on Smackdown last week and that was referred to on Raw. So Smackdown is canon! Who knows maybe all the NXT guys will start off on Smackdown, which unless they are going for the aforementioned huge debut beating Cena, is 100% a-okay.
It's also clear they are prepping Smackdown for the USA move - Xavier's trombone was broken on Smackdown last week and that was referred to on Raw. So Smackdown is canon! Who knows maybe all the NXT guys will start off on Smackdown, which unless they are going for the aforementioned huge debut beating Cena, is 100% a-okay.
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Hey, thanks for reminding me, let me acknowledge it: Beef your post is spot on.
Barack: Stop being cunty and realise wrestling doesn't just fit into what you like.
PHOENIXZERO
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Breeze could work fine on the main roster as a mid-card gimmick that he could eventually evolve out of, problem is modern WWE doesn't have a mid-card. Not a fan of just debuting him with Summer, that gimmick needed some vignettes.
Yay! Mada was great, and that was without training. Can't wait to see what they can do with the guy.
Apparently Bobby Eaton's final form was Bobby Heenan
I like to pretend that these posts go together.
So we're preemptively going "he was never any good anyway, he deserved to be buried" with Breeze this time.
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Deleted member 47027
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Bobby Eaton can be any age he damn well pleases. A+ dude.
Hahaha. You actually did it. I have so many questions:
- Is the game out now?
- What is GWF?
- Does Redbox do PS4 games yet (in Tulsa)? I'd totally rent it to create a dude.
Ha! You're an alright dude when you're not yelling, Vince McMahon.
Unfortunately it's not getting better.
We'll always have that four-way match with Neville, Kid and Sami. Good times.
That role is reserved for Rusev/Lana and we all know it.
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Deleted member 47027
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1 - not yet, I think it's next week
2 - we did a Gaf Wrestling Federation. It was fun. When 2k15 came out on PC I tried to do a revival of it, but it was SO gimped in such a bad way it didn't really seem possible. This one should have more content, but still be trash to play which is fine. CPU vs CPU fights. Heavy went on a tear with a crazy undefeated streak, Ithil dumped his tag partner and turned into Dark Ithil, Bootaaay had a love affair with Stephanie McMahon and it was ridiculous. Here's a brief clip of the joy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahRAPQpMby4
3 - I have no idea, but I think they lock uploads behind a online code? I'm not sure if they did away with this or not.
Shake hands, Barack Lesnar and Professor Beef. You're the Mongo and Jeff Jarrett of GAF and I'll be darned if you tear WrassleGAF apart over a woman.*
*I only skimmed your angry posts and assumed it was about a beautiful lady.
I try to appreciate him as much as Austin (he's always talking him up on his podcast, along with others), but I just can't. I mean, he's a solid hand (apparently a "night off"), but I've never seen anything above B-level from him.
*I only skimmed your angry posts and assumed it was about a beautiful lady.
I try to appreciate him as much as Austin (he's always talking him up on his podcast, along with others), but I just can't. I mean, he's a solid hand (apparently a "night off"), but I've never seen anything above B-level from him.
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Deleted member 47027
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For sure. His goodbye speech on Tough Enough was really good, and I think he has what it takes. Not just from that perspective. He's got a LOT of the tools.
This isn't fun and playful at all.
Breeze is a midcarder no matter where he is but this is a company that can't make Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose into company carrying stars so what hope is there for Tyler fucking Breeze.
AssBiz Reasons
Ramen knows
Dick Justice
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LOOK...I...JUICE
I'll look into everything. Sounds fun.
And one last thing about the Bobby Eaton; dude will always have a top-tier (A+?) theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eBmeH0MAmk
SO fam, is this Orton thing a swerve so that he can be the one to take Cena out on Sunday and take the US title?
Or will they just twist the knife in our backs and have it be Big Show?
Or go really oddball and go with Stroman their new monster.
There was a stupid rumor that it would be Breeze but that is obviously shot to hell.
Or will they just twist the knife in our backs and have it be Big Show?
Or go really oddball and go with Stroman their new monster.
There was a stupid rumor that it would be Breeze but that is obviously shot to hell.
They signed ZZ? Why?
THIS IS GOLD.
Yeah, I just watched it with the sound on and it was delightful. Laserfrog, you the real MVP.
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Deleted member 47027
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I also enjoy Unfiltered a lot.
Orton doing a US Challenge and continuing the tradition could be good. Orton is a great wrestler and there's a lot of matchups I haven't seen with him that I'd like to. I'd cry of Sheamus is the first, though.
FallingEdge
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laserfrog has the greatest voice ever