BronsonLee
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Then Brock kills everyone because he's a fucking murderer
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October Wrasslin' |OT| Celebrating 20 Years of the YET-AY!
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Then Brock kills everyone because he's a fucking murderer
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Look at the sweat glistening off Chris "Hogback" Hero
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I suppose to some extent I don't follow.
This is pretty much how it has to work unless you have squash matches with jobbers, less PPVs to begin with, or follow the Hulk Hogan plan of just having them never fight anyone outside of house shows/PPVs. That works for Lesnar, but they have a Manchild Soap Opera to run.
But again, maybe I'm not understand what kind of model you're advocating for.
I always knew it was you, you're the snitch
Professor Beef
Banned
Chris Gyro
sf2fanatic
Member
probably
BronsonLee
Member
That's one way to send yourself off!
Because he couldn't lose two Mania's in a row. Can't go into 32 being a loser.
slightconfuse
Banned
Glad more people are getting on the Chris Hero Hoss Wagon.
FallingEdge
Member
his look is better than his early 2000s look, that ring attire is awful
It's probably too late to bring back jobbers in the 3 hour era. I don't think people would accept it as readily as they have in NXT. You are right - its a very hard and intractable problem for the WWE but I firmly believe its something they have to solve.
The US Open Challenge is probably the best example of where it should go - not only do they get to fill time every week with match but the person holding the belt gets to make it feel important with the promo time. Some weeks its as close to a squash as you'll get on Raw (Stardust, Slater, R-Truth challenges) and others it can be close and competitive (Neville, Cesaro, Zayn, minus the underselling of everything). So when you are ready to switch the title, it is an event, something that can draw on its own merits - something that can co-main a PPV or main event a Raw.
When people say "Cena really brought prestige to the belt!!" as if Cena was the X-Factor there, I think a Cody Rhodes, Rusev or yes, even Cesaro could do much the same. Hopefully they give Owens that platform with the IC Belt for a long run with it and make it feel special. That way, when Zayn does come up and heads back into the feud, the extra fuel of the IC belt makes that match more compelling. Also, if Owens has held that belt from now till Mania, people won't be bitching all that much about Zayn/Owens being for the big belt because the intervening time in making the wins and losses matter, giving it time (which they desperately need to fill) will have made it feel important enough to forgive that its not the main event or whatever.
Basically, don't beat your title holders for no reason and have either a storyline reason or someone to make a big deal when you do.
avengers23
Banned
31 was the only one I've really had to travel for so far. It was nice to visit another part of the country, and we were able to get our act together enough to get NXT tickets in time for that show. We also attend one of the EVOLVE shows that weekend and do some general sightseeing around San Francisco, so it worked out well.
I stayed with a friend for 31, so I didn't have to figure out lodging and transportation. If I go to Dallas, I'd probably still have to rent a car or hire taxis to go to the NXT show or the other indy shows, which actually makes the WWE's package less attractive overall.
avengers23
Banned
You used the pronoun, but either man stating that would be mind-blowing.
BronsonLee
Member
Dallas is probably a shithole but Mania and the RAW after will be lovely
And I'll get to annoy my friends so it works
And I'll get to annoy my friends so it works
avengers23
Banned
You just need AJ to take half that money in a divorce because he's a Punk and didn't sign the pre-nup.
Someone get Traci Brooks on that case.
avengers23
Banned
Yoga and weed are not John Cena's regeneration methods, friend.
well... Total Divas follow them around, it's REALITY TV... have you ever seen Cena smoke on that show?
avengers23
Banned
UFC is more fun to watch anyways.
Scripted Reality TV.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, in terms of Rollins, the way he's booked is clearly intentional. They're not having Rollins eat pins all the time because they don't know how to book him strong. It is because he's supposed to be a shitheel coward who retains the belt by a combination of luck and circumstance.
I don't think the US title thing would mean nearly as much with someone other than Cena either. I'm just saying, if the US Title was held by Cesaro and he called for challenges, him beating everyone to retain it would be pretty implausible outside of all the challenges being Heath Slater or something. Unless they were booking Cesaro to be a world beater, which is an entirely different complaint.
I would be legit shocked if CM Punk never comes back. He honestly hasn't said enough to burn those bridges entirely and pretty much every dude who leaves the company pops off to some extent, and they all come crawling back.
FlammableD
Banned
Hey guys, if those pictures of Matt winning the TNA title didn't make us happy, we're not real fans. Pack the thread up lads, we had a good innings.
avengers23
Banned
Surely, John Cena would have been popped and Wellness'd if he smoked as much weed as Jack Evans, unless you're telling me the Wellness Policy is a work.
BronsonLee
Member
Take it from someone who went to Osaka by himself knowing the most limited Japanese possible
It won't fucking matter
I should go to a Dome show during one of my trips. I like going to Japan in summer vs winter, though.
There's barely any talking so I think you'd be fine. Virtually the only time someone talks is thanking the fans at the end.
BronsonLee
Member
I honestly think HHH cares less about that shit than Vince does. If it makes money, Trips don't care
UberTag
Member
Is the RAW after Mania really going to be in the Dalls-Fort Worth area?
I mean, wouldn't they prefer to take it to Corpus Christi and its population of 300,000 just a few hundred miles directly south?
Or are the 8 or so TV tapings they're getting next year enough for them?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Punk will probably never return just based on how stubborn he is. Like it's a point of pride that he isn't in pro wrestling anymore.
You guys are looking at this from WWE's POV.
Punk doesn't strike me as a guy that lets shit go. He will hold that grudge forever. If anyone needs to be sold on a return, it is him, not WWE.
BronsonLee
Member
It's at the American Airlines Center in Dallas.
Punk is carny supreme. He is super petty and can hold grudges forever, but he likes money too.
What if HHH allows Punk to use his jacket though?
avengers23
Banned
The post-'Mania Raw is at the American Airlines Center, which is in Dallas.
Of course, Dallas (along with Houston) redefine urban sprawl, so it's not exactly close to AT&T Stadium; they're 20 miles apart.
UberTag
Member
Pretty much this.
Punk isn't going back to the WWE unless he gets robbed of his life savings or the Blackhawks ban him from attending their games.
Dental Plan
Member
I wanted to take the train to dallas from los angeles but for two people its $1,000. Might just drive there. It should only take a day.
funkystudent
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Only way Punk ever works with WWE again is 20 years from now in a Bret Hart situation where he needs the money to pad his retirement fund.
Dude doesnt have a drug, drink problem or 4 ex wives bleeding his bank account dry. If he keeps his nose clean and doesnt get in major financial trouble he will never be back.
Dude doesnt have a drug, drink problem or 4 ex wives bleeding his bank account dry. If he keeps his nose clean and doesnt get in major financial trouble he will never be back.
avengers23
Banned
The latest in Deadspin's irregular wrestling column: Can TNA Wrestling Survive?
Using money as an excuse to come back as weird. Punk likely has all the money he could ever want. And AJ probably does as well.
Dana is taking care of that though, after he has a few matches, no matter how it goes, I bet he is getting some kind of on-air role on UFC shows. WWE is not his only choice for making money.
Yeah but if I'm gonna fly all the way to Japan, I'm gonna need to spend at least five days there to get my money's worth. Then there's the hotels, neon signs, the cute girls in short skirts...
Jimmy King
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arguably the best wrestling gif