mechashiva
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HeisenbergLannister
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The fact that Ambrose and Rollins will be shackled to hell and back in their Cell match so they don't overshadow the golden boys makes me one sad person.
Who doesn't like Terry Gordy?
KORAN KORNER WITH STRO 10/18/2014: THE FINAL DAY, THE DAY OF RESURRECTION, ARMAGEDDON, FUCK YO EARF
Yes, the final post in my landmark series.
Suhayl ibn Amr was a dude who refused to follow the verbal traditions sent down. Such as calling Mohammed, son of Abdullah instead of Mohammed Prophet of Allah. He eventually converted.
There was a dude who came to meet Mo. He got really nervous by how many Muslims were around, so he left without talking to Mo. Mohammed took this as a huge insult and had that guy and his people killed.
It is defamation to charge a convert with iniquity. This was because one of Mo's wives was taunted for her Jewish heritage. And suddenly, you couldn't do that anymore.
There are two angels that record everything of every man. EVERYTHING.
Allah takes great offense to the idea that he rested on the 7th day. He took it off because he wanted to. He never gets tired. He also created man and jinn specifically to worship him.
There is a model of the Kabbah in Heaven that the angels visit frequently.
People asked for a sign from Allah. The moon then appeared to be wrapped in twine. This is in great conflict with literally every other time people asked for a sign. This is the only time Allah actually gave a sign on demand, and it's validity is questioned because of it.
Near the end of Mohammed's life, he was worried that Islam wouldn't last.
NO HANGOVERS IN HEAVEN!!!
People on the left hand will go to Hell. People on the right hand will go to Heaven. Of note is that "right hand" is the euphemism for slaves all through out the book. Also, the Angel of Death rips souls out of mouths of the wicked, but lets them gently come out of the believers.
There are no such things as accidents. Everything that happens is on purpose. Also, EVERYTHING is a sign of Allah's power. Absolutely everything.
There is severe torment waiting for the Jews, who are referred to as the "crew of Satan". What appears to been the initial spark to "fuck da Jews" was when they agreed to be on the sides (not converting, but being partners/friends/supporters) of Muslims after the Muslims won a battle, but then changed their minds after the Muslims lost a battle. Before this point, the Jews are spoken of fairly well. Afterwards, nearly ever passage that mentions them refers to them as swine/apes/asses/liars/greedy/treacherous, constantly running them out and/or killing them, and how they are the worst of the worst. I mention this because it is a pretty consistent theme through out the book. Someone pisses Mo off and suddenly there is word from Allah to slaughter them all. For this particular running out of/slaughter of the Jews, Mo was the only guy who was on a camel/horse, so he got ALL of the spoils due to a technicality. All the way to 2014, there is considered no Jewish activity in Saudi Arabia. No non-Muslim religious traditions are allowed to be followed on SA soil. During the Gulf War, Christian service members were eventually allowed to worship within SA, but Jews were only allowed to do so on US war ships. Those with an Israeli passport or who is an open Jew are generally not allowed into the Kingdom. What I'm saying is that the Israel/Palestine conflict most definitely is not about a little patch of land in the desert. Amazingly, there is actually a verse that criticizes a Jewish leader for killing Christians. And it isn't even in The Chapter of The Hypocrites.
Jews are more fearful of Muslims than Allah Himself, with good reason.
Allah has 99 names.
There was a guy who knew Mohammed was bringing an invasion to his city. He warned the city. Mo was not happy about this. The guy was a true believer and warned only because his family lived there. Mo forgave him, but Allah then decreed no more of that shit.
Mohammed had an affair with a Coptic woman named Mary. One of his wives found out and got really pissed. He made a deal with her that he'd never touch Mary again as long as she didn't tell any of the other wives. Well, she told one of the other wives. He divorced her and was so pissed at all of his wives that he moved out for a month. Where did he live in that month? Mary's apartment. Shortly after, a decree came down that made it okay what Mo did and was able to get him out of any commitment to Mary.
A blind guy one day interrupted Mohammed. He didn't realize he was interrupting anything, on the account of being blind. He was just asking for spiritual guidance. Mo turned his back and frowned at him, then walked away. Allah called Mo out on being a dick for no reason, so the next time Mo saw him, he made the guy governor of Medina.
There is a tradition that Gabriel came to a baby Mohammed, cut his chest open, pulled his heart out, and cleansed the heart of the Original Sin. Most don't take this seriously. Because even pagan Arabic tribes of the time thought that was too crazy to be true.
My final thoughts, spoilered because they're probably deeply offensive to Muslims:
On to the Bhagavad Gita. Probably won't do any write ups for that, since no one wanted to read these and I feel like Islam is a little more relevant to most people in here than Hinduism.
Unrelated, I find the "keep calm" meme stupid as shit, but WWE.com making one out of this:
is pretty dope
Yes, the final post in my landmark series.
Suhayl ibn Amr was a dude who refused to follow the verbal traditions sent down. Such as calling Mohammed, son of Abdullah instead of Mohammed Prophet of Allah. He eventually converted.
There was a dude who came to meet Mo. He got really nervous by how many Muslims were around, so he left without talking to Mo. Mohammed took this as a huge insult and had that guy and his people killed.
It is defamation to charge a convert with iniquity. This was because one of Mo's wives was taunted for her Jewish heritage. And suddenly, you couldn't do that anymore.
There are two angels that record everything of every man. EVERYTHING.
Allah takes great offense to the idea that he rested on the 7th day. He took it off because he wanted to. He never gets tired. He also created man and jinn specifically to worship him.
There is a model of the Kabbah in Heaven that the angels visit frequently.
People asked for a sign from Allah. The moon then appeared to be wrapped in twine. This is in great conflict with literally every other time people asked for a sign. This is the only time Allah actually gave a sign on demand, and it's validity is questioned because of it.
Near the end of Mohammed's life, he was worried that Islam wouldn't last.
NO HANGOVERS IN HEAVEN!!!
People on the left hand will go to Hell. People on the right hand will go to Heaven. Of note is that "right hand" is the euphemism for slaves all through out the book. Also, the Angel of Death rips souls out of mouths of the wicked, but lets them gently come out of the believers.
There are no such things as accidents. Everything that happens is on purpose. Also, EVERYTHING is a sign of Allah's power. Absolutely everything.
There is severe torment waiting for the Jews, who are referred to as the "crew of Satan". What appears to been the initial spark to "fuck da Jews" was when they agreed to be on the sides (not converting, but being partners/friends/supporters) of Muslims after the Muslims won a battle, but then changed their minds after the Muslims lost a battle. Before this point, the Jews are spoken of fairly well. Afterwards, nearly ever passage that mentions them refers to them as swine/apes/asses/liars/greedy/treacherous, constantly running them out and/or killing them, and how they are the worst of the worst. I mention this because it is a pretty consistent theme through out the book. Someone pisses Mo off and suddenly there is word from Allah to slaughter them all. For this particular running out of/slaughter of the Jews, Mo was the only guy who was on a camel/horse, so he got ALL of the spoils due to a technicality. All the way to 2014, there is considered no Jewish activity in Saudi Arabia. No non-Muslim religious traditions are allowed to be followed on SA soil. During the Gulf War, Christian service members were eventually allowed to worship within SA, but Jews were only allowed to do so on US war ships. Those with an Israeli passport or who is an open Jew are generally not allowed into the Kingdom. What I'm saying is that the Israel/Palestine conflict most definitely is not about a little patch of land in the desert. Amazingly, there is actually a verse that criticizes a Jewish leader for killing Christians. And it isn't even in The Chapter of The Hypocrites.
Jews are more fearful of Muslims than Allah Himself, with good reason.
Allah has 99 names.
There was a guy who knew Mohammed was bringing an invasion to his city. He warned the city. Mo was not happy about this. The guy was a true believer and warned only because his family lived there. Mo forgave him, but Allah then decreed no more of that shit.
Mohammed had an affair with a Coptic woman named Mary. One of his wives found out and got really pissed. He made a deal with her that he'd never touch Mary again as long as she didn't tell any of the other wives. Well, she told one of the other wives. He divorced her and was so pissed at all of his wives that he moved out for a month. Where did he live in that month? Mary's apartment. Shortly after, a decree came down that made it okay what Mo did and was able to get him out of any commitment to Mary.
A blind guy one day interrupted Mohammed. He didn't realize he was interrupting anything, on the account of being blind. He was just asking for spiritual guidance. Mo turned his back and frowned at him, then walked away. Allah called Mo out on being a dick for no reason, so the next time Mo saw him, he made the guy governor of Medina.
There is a tradition that Gabriel came to a baby Mohammed, cut his chest open, pulled his heart out, and cleansed the heart of the Original Sin. Most don't take this seriously. Because even pagan Arabic tribes of the time thought that was too crazy to be true.
My final thoughts, spoilered because they're probably deeply offensive to Muslims:
Mohammed was a psycho/sociopath with OCD, delusions of grandeur, a messiah complex, a megalomaniac, with a penchant for severe violence and anger. He was a guy clearly running a cult, through fear and violence. The amount of "fear Allah/ME/Us" is staggering. There is a consistent theme from start to end of Mohammed seeing things he didn't like and suddenly getting a decree from Allah that they are now illegal. Seeing things he wanted to do that were illegal, and suddenly getting a decree from Allah that they are now legal. Sometimes getting special permissions just for him. Someone makes him mad? Suddenly, a decree comes down to slaughter that person/group/city. If he did something wrong, a decree would come down saying it was okay. This happens frequently. It's very convenient.
He spends much of the book propping up and piggy backing on Jewish and Christian stories (the entire story of Moses is recounted at least 10 times as a backbone for legitimacy, the story of Noah is recounted 4-5 times in full, Jesus is frequently mentioned), all while saying how terrible Christians and especially Jews are. He spends much of the book going from city to city, threatening everyone with death if they don't convert. This is glorious and just to him. "Religion of peace" is pretty unfounded, by my reading. It was briefly peaceful, until people didn't really want to go along with it. Then it became "kill 'em all". If you were to read through the book, you can see where the extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS get their justifications. Pretty clearly. That's not a good look on the religion and book. It's not even a stretch. It's all in there and to follow the book by the letter would require you to do many of the things those extremists have done.
It's also a book of many, many contradictions, based on who and what Mohammed was angry with at the time. The only real constants are: Take care of orphans/poor/homeless, pray all the time, and always be fearful that you will be tortured in Hell forever if you offend Allah in any way. It's probably not a coincidence that Mohammed himself was a poor orphan growing up, moving from family to family and sometimes being homeless.
What makes a good Muslim is a mystery to me. Moderate and liberal Muslims seem to not be able to be good Muslims, going by the book. To be a Muslim and in line with the laws and customs of the modern world seems antithetical to the teachings of the book. You'd have to disregard a LOT of it. But those that follow the book to the letter means they're going to be killing folks and being violent, mean, angry people who feel they are in the right because they are doing it for Allah, and that's what Allah likes. It's a tricky situation. Shed some light on why the Middle East is the way it is, though. For me at least. That's just my interpretation of it. There are good tenants, mostly pertaining to charity. But a lot more of really awful shit.
He spends much of the book propping up and piggy backing on Jewish and Christian stories (the entire story of Moses is recounted at least 10 times as a backbone for legitimacy, the story of Noah is recounted 4-5 times in full, Jesus is frequently mentioned), all while saying how terrible Christians and especially Jews are. He spends much of the book going from city to city, threatening everyone with death if they don't convert. This is glorious and just to him. "Religion of peace" is pretty unfounded, by my reading. It was briefly peaceful, until people didn't really want to go along with it. Then it became "kill 'em all". If you were to read through the book, you can see where the extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS get their justifications. Pretty clearly. That's not a good look on the religion and book. It's not even a stretch. It's all in there and to follow the book by the letter would require you to do many of the things those extremists have done.
It's also a book of many, many contradictions, based on who and what Mohammed was angry with at the time. The only real constants are: Take care of orphans/poor/homeless, pray all the time, and always be fearful that you will be tortured in Hell forever if you offend Allah in any way. It's probably not a coincidence that Mohammed himself was a poor orphan growing up, moving from family to family and sometimes being homeless.
What makes a good Muslim is a mystery to me. Moderate and liberal Muslims seem to not be able to be good Muslims, going by the book. To be a Muslim and in line with the laws and customs of the modern world seems antithetical to the teachings of the book. You'd have to disregard a LOT of it. But those that follow the book to the letter means they're going to be killing folks and being violent, mean, angry people who feel they are in the right because they are doing it for Allah, and that's what Allah likes. It's a tricky situation. Shed some light on why the Middle East is the way it is, though. For me at least. That's just my interpretation of it. There are good tenants, mostly pertaining to charity. But a lot more of really awful shit.
On to the Bhagavad Gita. Probably won't do any write ups for that, since no one wanted to read these and I feel like Islam is a little more relevant to most people in here than Hinduism.
Unrelated, I find the "keep calm" meme stupid as shit, but WWE.com making one out of this:
is pretty dope
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
They should just book it so Ambrose derange and unstable nature just overwhelms Cena's play it straight character (even though he does hellish things and gets cheered). You could add legitimacy to a clean A,brose win while still casting that slight doubt, make Cena look strong, if they just used their brains for a second. Though it ain't happenin'
slightconfuse
Banned
They're getting the push. Wrestle threads popping up in OT like that one about Justin Roberts? That's some Zack Ryder shit right there. We got Cena'd awhile ago.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Gabe is just on fire creatively now. Can't wait when this is for purchase two months from now.
Gabe? This is a super Dragon production
FallingEdge
Member
Best fed in the US!
I promise one day tm24, we will attend a PWG show together!
Well why do you think you've never seen Super Dragon's face, or heard him speak before?
It's not. WCW also used that term from time to time. They used wrestling MUCH more, but sports entertainment wasn't exclusive to Vince, even if he coined the phrase. The term was made to avoid having to pay state wrestling/boxing commissions, so it was beneficial for WCW and any other company to use the term when needed. A version of it had been used as early as the 1930s.
When the commentary over the match they are covering has has Bischoff talking about how this is the best wrestling and how you will never see wrestling like this don't have keith david call it sports entertainment
Singularity42
Member
I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed the Koran Korner.
At least share your thoughts on the Bhagavad Gita. Doesn't need to be at length like the Koran but I'm interested to hear your take on it.
It's a very trippy book. Probably because the writers were high on mushrooms, soma, nutmeg, harmal or whatever else they could get their hands on.
At least share your thoughts on the Bhagavad Gita. Doesn't need to be at length like the Koran but I'm interested to hear your take on it.
It's a very trippy book. Probably because the writers were high on mushrooms, soma, nutmeg, harmal or whatever else they could get their hands on.
Gabe wishes he was booking PWG.
I started to read it, but I'm too sleepy to really retain anything. This version starts with a long introduction to Sanskrit. Getting through that was enough to let me know I need more than a few hours before I dig in.
Carnby
Member
Lol
Was that the actual intro song for Raw? I don't remember that AT ALL. I hope it is a dubbed over intentionally terrible period piece song.
Also, wtf at showing a "preview" for next week by showing big spots from matches next week. That's from the Alucard school of promotion right there. Telling everyone your shit is taped when Nitro was LIVE AS LIVE CAN BE and showing major spots from those matches? So weird.
slightconfuse
Banned
LOL TNA
Was that the actual intro song for Raw? I don't remember that AT ALL. I hope it is a dubbed over intentionally terrible period piece song.
Also, wtf at showing a "preview" for next week by showing big spots from matches next week. That's from the Alucard school of promotion right there. Telling everyone your shit is taped when Nitro was LIVE AS LIVE CAN BE and showing major spots from those matches? So weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHVUvKhIbX8
Love it, Straggle!
Macho Madness
Member
Tops and Flops of Pro Wrestling for this week: https://www.thewesker.com/tops-flops-pro-wrestling-ambrose-vs-rollins-hell-in-a-cell-cena-dont-care/
Also, I recommend listening to the Larry Matysik radio show if you subscribe to the Observer. Good stuff.
Also, I recommend listening to the Larry Matysik radio show if you subscribe to the Observer. Good stuff.
Oh boy is that going to fizzle out. I've seen some people online who are excited as hell over the idea of Angle coming back to WWE to fight Rusev. Bet the wind will be sucked out of their sails if TNA is able to do this angle.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Can't Angle be the Smackdown GM again?
Please?
Please?
What even is Smackdown anymore?
while i knew it wasn't going to happen, i was hoping for Rusev vs Angle.
Kirk Angel has spent more time in TNA than WWE. Outside of the beginning of his tenure, I don't remember shit about his TNA run.
what a waste of talent.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Doubt he got an offer.c
BoboBrazil
Member
Fucking sucks. Angle means nothing in TNA, but WWE probably didn't want him back. HHH blew him off when he tried to call about coming back. He was never offered a deal.
simplythebest
Banned
Yukes hasn't made a good WWE game since the Day of Reckoning series.
WWE Thunder.
Perspicacity
Banned
I stopped reading Koran Korner when Stro started to fill every post with images. Just awful
That can't be true.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Angle's never coming back to WWE wrestling fulltime, and the sooner everybody accepts that, the better
Why is that better? What's so bad about living in hope?
funkystudent
Member
WWE hiring Angle or Jeff Hardy again would be the final sign we need to know the wellness policy is dead.
...or Brian Cage.
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Deleted member 47027
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I think it's bullshit as well, no way would Kurt be that responsible
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I also enjoyed Koran Korner