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October Wrasslin' |strobogo Recap OT| This title is held in abeyance
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Serpentine
Banned
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slightconfuse
Banned
Ryback was over In his fued with cena and has never recovered
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
The fact that Ryback never won a PPV match is quite depressing to say the least. Audience gave up on him after his shitty Cena feud. I still kinda like him though, but this shitty Punk feud is doing him no favors.
slightconfuse
Banned
Where are they now :ken shamrock
http://www.wwe.com/classics/wherearetheynow/where-are-they-now-ken-shamrock
http://www.wwe.com/classics/wherearetheynow/where-are-they-now-ken-shamrock
Serpentine
Banned
It's kinda exposed how dull he is in the ring, even though I don't think he's a bad talker like the MARKS think.
Dude, he beat Camacho at Over the Limit 2012
Dude, he beat Camacho at Over the Limit 2012
You mean like everyone ever besides maybe Punk? No one escapes that vortex.
1988-1992 is so comfortable because everything is so...focused. Stories were laid out well in advance and played out the way they should unless some one got hurt or fired. There weren't a lot of things that went for a few weeks and was dropped and not mentioned again. Or month long feuds since they didn't have to have a PPV every month. It's all so bright and colorful without being overly clean and sterile like today. The wrestlers felt like real characters (I'm not even talking about the overly cartoon characters that came later) as opposed to no one even having gimmicks today. The way it is shot is so much more engaging than today. You add in the best commentary teams ever and it is just...comfortable. Sure, there are a lot better matches today, but that era wasn't about work rate classics.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
This changes EVERYTHING
slightconfuse
Banned
Ryder is still changing that tire. D-bry is lost in the vortex, doesn't help there is a triple black hole as well.
Also Kurt angle for #bulletclub!!
Serpentine
Banned
Ain't no one gonna be cheering for ADR on Sunday tho
slightconfuse
Banned
No one cheers for him anyway!
Perspicacity
Banned
Alberto Del Rio is a good performer, decent charisma, backstage support, and a mostly realized character, but continually fucking fails at connecting at all with the audience. I can't think of anyone else who has so much going for him and can't do anything with it (maybe Sin Cara, but I think even he's more over despite most of his big matches being dogshit).
Serpentine
Banned
My point exactly!
At best he was kinda over in his feud with Big Show, which was really the only time I actually really liked him, despite the fact he usually always puts on good to great matches
Christberg
Member
Ryback doesn't understand ring psychology. The dude's really athletic but just doesn't understand match flow or how to sell at all. It doesn't help that he hasn't managed to do a decent promo in ages either, if ever. The bully thing was working for me, but they abandoned it in the cradle for this CM Punk feud which was a mistake. They should have run a story line where he bullies, and bullies and bullies and wins match after match after match against jobbers that gets blown off by him getting murdered by like 50 of them in a hardcore match that ends with him having every bad thing he ever did revisited on him. Would be way better than him being Heyman's create a wrestler blank slate like he is now.
Del Rio's a tough one for me because he's got the look and he's a HELL of a worker. There's just nothing resembling a character or personality though. Dude needs a consistent storyline stat.
Del Rio's a tough one for me because he's got the look and he's a HELL of a worker. There's just nothing resembling a character or personality though. Dude needs a consistent storyline stat.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Del Rio was cursed with executive meddling, he would have been fine had they not been trying to leverage the LATIIIINO crowd.
Christberg
Member
Well, the right general intent is there. Dude looks like he's straight out of a telenovela and the idea of him being a Spanish aristocrat rudo would work really well- provided they had a stream of Azteca job squad for him to stomp the crap out of.
Thing is, this isn't Mexico so him playing that character here doesn't wash when the vast majority of his opponents are white.
Reneledarker
Banned
And the funny thing is, people in Mexico care more about Sin Cara and Mysterio. Heck, Mexicans care more about Cena, Punk, the Undertaker and Kane than del Rio.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
People still could have enjoyed it if he could have been allowed to stick with the gimmick. He's a natural born heel and should have stayed how he did when he debuted
Curse executive meddling!A thick mustache is still possible though. He could be the Generalissimo!
slightconfuse
Banned
Doesn't help that del io has been in like every WHC title match for like a year already. Need some new blood in that scene
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
He needs some time off, then come back and do some vicious shit. He's great in the ring and takes big bumps at big events. He just needs solid SENSIBLE booking and no hotshotting a face turn.
FallingEdge
Member
What the fuck has Sandow been doing?
He isn't going to win the belt. Ever.
He isn't going to win the belt. Ever.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Unfortunately booked to have the Money in the Bizzle case without any clear direction for his character. It got Cody over though...sorta.
Perspicacity
Banned
When Cena stops slumming it in the WHC picture they will likely have Cody be the face of that division and him winning would be the perfect moment for a Sandow cash in.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
The good part about mis-booking a MITB winner is they can easily rob them of it by having them cash in and lose. Sandow's character reminds me a lot of the Genius, and let's not forget Hogan worked a program with The Genius and it was good, brief, but serious. Sandow could get that same rub from Ceeeeeena
How long was Ryback in development? Same time as Daniel Puder, right?
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Any time I hear his name, in my mind, I think of Taz saying it like the fool he is.
"Dan-yell POODAH"
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Around 2005, after Tough Enough, I believe.
slightconfuse
Banned
Pider almost breaking angles arm is one of the highlight of tough enough.
Also sandow in devolpmenal for 10 years
Also sandow in devolpmenal for 10 years
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
That's pleasant to watch. I love a good shove.
Christberg
Member
People still could have enjoyed it if he could have been allowed to stick with the gimmick. He's a natural born heel and should have stayed how he did when he debuted
A thick mustache is still possible though. He could be the Generalissimo!
Hahahaha, nice. It'd be like a modern day Iron Sheik!
It's really a shame they got rid of Ricardo. They should have just cut back his speaking and let Del Rio do the promos and make him more of a boot licker. Maybe they could even do the human chair bit from Bruno?
The original idea still stands as a good one. They just need to have the sack to run with a classic racist heel schtick.
Dr Duncan Steel
Member
I was wondering if him giving Angle the Kimura during a Smackdown taping had anything to do with that. That must've garnered so much heat for that.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Serpentine
Banned
Sandow's in a lower spot than Ziggler was last year, I think. At least Ziggler got to lose on Raw. Sandow is stuck in Superstars and got his robe, pink trunks, and mic time taken away.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
You're funny. Why are you lying to us, the WrassleGAF universe? We don't tolerate lies!
Del Rio puts on good matches.
Like you said, he's been given like 10 balls and hasn't ran - he starts to, then someone takes it away instantly.
He's always looking like a goofball against Cena, and only has gotten wins over the likes of Kofi and lower guys. His feud with Ziggler produced great matches, but story went nowhere because the concussion happened, and after that it was revolving AJ/Dolph split, completely ignoring Dolph/WHC picture. Despite the Del Rio looking gold as he kept delivering those kicks to his head. The RVD/Del Rio feud was fine but it served little substance. Seemed forced.
I said it before but the situation once Edge retired they failed big time. Both for Del Rio and Christian. You put fuckin' poops in bags in the title picture, again, and rather than make the WHC story about Del Rio/Christian, it became about Orton. Golden boy. But yeah, it's not like WWE has any problems with booking or making more characters more appealing.
I said it before but the situation once Edge retired they failed big time. Both for Del Rio and Christian. You put fuckin' poops in bags in the title picture, again, and rather than make the WHC story about Del Rio/Christian, it became about Orton. Golden boy. But yeah, it's not like WWE has any problems with booking or making more characters more appealing.
Serpentine
Banned
Regardless of his unoverness, ADR always puts on good matches. It's not really his fault that
-He wrestles the person he's feuding with a million times before the actual PPV
-Loses non-title matches to those people to set up said PPV match
-Doesn't actually get to do anything interesting with the "rich man" gimmick, which really should not have been that hard
-Always has to wrestle everybody a million times, he's been beating the same midcarders everyone beats when a heel is getting pushed (eg "Del Rio showing a new AGGRESSIVE side to him against Zack Ryder tonight") for at least a year now
-He's always in nothing feuds for the WHC
Granted, you can't probably blame EVERYTHING on the higher ups but you can't say they don't have a role in his lack of any momentum whatsoever
-He wrestles the person he's feuding with a million times before the actual PPV
-Loses non-title matches to those people to set up said PPV match
-Doesn't actually get to do anything interesting with the "rich man" gimmick, which really should not have been that hard
-Always has to wrestle everybody a million times, he's been beating the same midcarders everyone beats when a heel is getting pushed (eg "Del Rio showing a new AGGRESSIVE side to him against Zack Ryder tonight") for at least a year now
-He's always in nothing feuds for the WHC
Granted, you can't probably blame EVERYTHING on the higher ups but you can't say they don't have a role in his lack of any momentum whatsoever
Serpentine
Banned
Worse, it came like right during his face turn
slightconfuse
Banned
Smiley?
Also I want this book
Also I want this book
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
Banned
Yeah. he was a heel on SD yet a face the day before or something like that. It was ridiculous. Don't listen to Aiii's lies, it's the front office fucking with Del Rio!
Kinda tough to make Magabe work, too much shit on his face. Tanahannnshi might work though...
Smiley?
Also I want this book
Kinda tough to make Magabe work, too much shit on his face. Tanahannnshi might work though...
Had a great bike ride today, even though it is 45 degrees and windy. It snowed this morning. I don't give a fuck. Added a about 2 miles to what I've been doing. I never, ever would have thought I would be enjoying bike riding since I hated it as a kid. I've gone from 4 to 11 mile round trips in about 3 weeks. Is an 11 mile ride a solid distance? It took probably right around an hour and a half.
I'm going to scrub my balls and get back to the Royal Rumble! It's so weird to be watching stuff that I actually enjoy and don't feel like I'm punishing myself.
I'm going to scrub my balls and get back to the Royal Rumble! It's so weird to be watching stuff that I actually enjoy and don't feel like I'm punishing myself.
Nocturnowl
Member
So true, I wonder if WWE have noticed yet that this really doesn't work, I still make fun of their attempts to do this with Miz and his ICE COLD attitude for like 3 weeks.
Regardless of balls being potentially dropped by WWE and not ADR I just can't bring myself to care about ADR anymore, he's spent so much time in upper card spots with all those accolades yet still remains uninteresting outside of his admittedly solid matches, his fault or not I just want to see some others put in his place because ADR has gotten incredibly monotonous to me.
Of course it would help if they leveraged his Mexican Aristocrat gimmick for story purposes instead of just driving cars to the ring and having a personal announcer...oh yeah, he doesn't have either of those things anymore, damn it WWE.
And that Bo Dallas looking hair.