Mr. Enigma
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Dave Meltzer says TNA is officially now up for sale. From the premium podcast:
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funkystudent
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So meltzer is saying TNA might actually be up for sale. Cool
Do you think WWE would even bother with it though?
I could see it being a good investment if they got it for real cheap and they immediately fired everyone over 30 expect 3-5 older guys as agents like Samoa Joe.
Maybe the new WWE TNA could invade NXT. (I am being serious)
I think the likely outcome is Bishoff and some investees buying it and it eventually dying.
And Bryan isnt going to be taken serious until he loses the beard. Just trim it. Style it. Stop looking like a hobo for god sake.
Do you think WWE would even bother with it though?
I could see it being a good investment if they got it for real cheap and they immediately fired everyone over 30 expect 3-5 older guys as agents like Samoa Joe.
Maybe the new WWE TNA could invade NXT. (I am being serious)
I think the likely outcome is Bishoff and some investees buying it and it eventually dying.
And Bryan isnt going to be taken serious until he loses the beard. Just trim it. Style it. Stop looking like a hobo for god sake.
There's no reason for WWE to buy TNA.
If there was someone they wanted, they could have got them already. No one gives a shit about TNA LEGEND STING FOOTAGE. The most I could see WWE being interested in is Daniels as a trainer or something, maybe giving Kaz another shot, something with Sting, and maybe Punk can switch out Punk's friend contract for Kofi with Joe. And Kurt if he, LOL, cleans up.
If there was someone they wanted, they could have got them already. No one gives a shit about TNA LEGEND STING FOOTAGE. The most I could see WWE being interested in is Daniels as a trainer or something, maybe giving Kaz another shot, something with Sting, and maybe Punk can switch out Punk's friend contract for Kofi with Joe. And Kurt if he, LOL, cleans up.
Or have Bryan win it and prove just how good he is by overcoming everything HHH throws at him.
Make it about how a plain, ordinary man, loved by the people, wins them over and overcomes adversity, even as the corporate executives try time and time again to fuck him over.
The matter-of-fact "Daniel Bryan simply can't be the face of the company, isn't good enough, and wouldn't be right for business" angle simply doesn't work, not in kayfabe on a meta-level. The fans love Bryan, and see how good he is in the ring, and how he makes every shitty angle/character swerve he's given work And in kayfabe, he's a top-tier wrestler and does everything the company has asked of him (and this is also true not in kayfabe, as well).
The focus should be on the personal grudge. The HHH that cut that promo where he basically said "When WWE is in town, I run it, it belongs to me, and what I say goes" early on in the feud, THAT'S the kind of angle they should be going for.
Whereas Stone Cold was the lowest-common denominator kind of redneck type, and the appeal was seeing him get one over the big boss executive, Daniel Bryan is the perfect professional, capable, willing, and able to perform every step of the way, but who just doesn't have the corporate connections to get that promotion, that recognition, that role he so apparently deserves.
I told you all. He's just a more successful Fandango.
Unlike Stone Cold who got over THEN the catchphrases got over.
I don't see any young kids dressing up as Daniel Bryan.
Miz however.
Tells you a lot doesn't it?
Dthomp
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So how would that explain the Daniel Bryan chants? The guy is the best wrestler on the roster and is being handled fine. Golden boy Cena can't due shit for these ratings going against football and idiot writers any more then Bryan could. Bad PPV is bad, doesn't mean it is DBrys fault
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
serenewarfare
Banned
He may, but a lot of what helped repair the Punk damage was how they gave him the belt and let him run with it. I can almost guarantee that they will not do that with Bryan.
They didn't repair any damage with Punk. He could have been the next Stone Cold, and they destroyed it. Now, he's just another "Not Cena" face.
serenewarfare
Banned
I'd argue that Punk is on a level not with Cena, but above most faces on the roster.
A broom could be above most faces on the roster.
Nah, both Bryan and Punk have gotten some absolutely HUMONGOUS pops (and Ziggler, too).
Vince just doesn't know how to book things properly any more. They rush things that should be slow burned, and when they should strike while the iron is hot, they opt instead to have dead-end finishes for 3-4 PPVs before putting things on the backburner until the Rumble/Mania. And they preempt things that they should just let develop naturally (fandangoing, anyone?)
I think the problem is that they can't decide if they want to have a team of writers, or a single booker. They'll have creative come up with things and then Vince, Steph, Hayes, or HHH will just throw it all out (though I've heard HHH does this very little because he makes sure everyone's on the same page first).
Either can the creative dept and have one guy call all the shots, or let the writers do their thing and the execs provide input from a distance.
For the most part, NXT works because HHH gives Dusty all the pieces he needs, and the reign to do with them as he pleases (though HHH also works to develop the storylines, characters, and angles alongside dusty).
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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We're getting closer to that Brooke Tessmacher porno with each passing day.
Stay strong brothers, salvation is near!
Lambda Pie
Banned
you can place anyone in Bryan's shoes and have the scream YES along with the crowd and they'll eat it and cheer.
serenewarfare
Banned
I mean in the eyes of most fans. And that is what we are judging, right? I don't think he could have ever been "the next Stone Cold" the business isn't hot enough for that to happen and, as much as I love Punk, it'd take much more than him getting pushed right to get it hot enough for him to achieve that level of popularity/success.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Guys let's buy TNA
Are you kidding? Punk was getting primetime ESPN mentions during that summer. He was massively over, and they had HHH beat him, and never had a return match, lol.
Dthomp
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Maybe Punk should have sent out a text...BUT WHO IS TEXT?
Lambda Pie
Banned
Ziggler got chants. JBL gets chants. Randy Savage, may his soul rest, gets chants.
Zack Ryder got chants.
crowd will chant for anything.
sf2fanatic
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I wish they used that monitor behind the people during the interviews for feud discussion.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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WrassleGAF should buy TNA and put Russo back as booker just because.
Nash would put over a broom, if the check was good enough. Dude doesn't care if he gets beat. He's not a mark.
WWE would most likely fire him.
The reason why he was let go in the first place is because WWE wanted him to get help.
WWE basically said "We're letting your contract expire so you can go and get your life straightened out. You're killing yourself and your marriage, and are psychologically, physically, and emotionally a wreck, and addicted to painkillers more than anyone on the roster. After you get some help, you are welcome to return, but the only one that can change Kurt Angle, is Kurt Angle. Good luck."
Instead, Kurt jumped straight to TNA. Wrestling has become his addiction and the way he escapes from all his problems. :/
Thanks Hunter!
serenewarfare
Banned
No, I'm not. I would have loved to see him pushed right, but it would not have moved ratings on any sort of permanent basis. His segments may have been talked about/loved and gotten high ratings, but being a star on the level of SCSA entails being a top star on a hot show. And I think the show as a whole was not at a high enough level for that to happen.
To be fair, WWE's not entirely innocent in this. Kurt said it and other wrestlers have said if. It you take time off, your spot's not guaranteed to ever come back to you. I mean, hell, look at Ziggler.
Dthomp
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True, but maybe they could force him into some type of program. I just don't want Angle to go out with a wimper in TNA. He deserves a small run, followed up by being the GM of Raw and entering the HoF.
Ziggler only still has a job because he's basically the original HHH "guy." All the other execs hate him
When SCSA became, "huge", meaning after he won the WWE title, the WWE was still getting beat by WCW. It takes time, and I didn't say he was on that level yet, but he could have been. They wasted it. He's not even a strong draw anymore.
All they have is Cena and the marks that will watching anything with WWE on it.
sf2fanatic
Member
Even Shane? His old buddy?
Keyser Soze
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*reads results*
Shane has nothing to do with WWE anymore
serenewarfare
Banned
I think you are missing my point. Yes I agree that he could have gotten big. But Stone Cold wasn't the sole reason the WWE passed WCW, and that is what I'm getting at. He was at the top of what was a peak time for the wrestling industry in terms of popularity and exposure. To me, Punk would have had to been the top part of an equally, or almost equally, successful run for the business to be considered on the level of Stone Cold.
sf2fanatic
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Ok now I see why WWE is horrible...Thanks for the info!!!
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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*reads results*
The Miz got beat up then chokeslammed though. Not everything was bad.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
First order of business with new TNA will be to hire the Miz away from the WWE and then fire the Miz.
I guess I wasn't being clear. I don't think Punk could ever have become as popular as Stone Cold. He's not good enough for that (on the mic or in the ring), but he could have been more popular than Cena, but they ruined that.
Punk's shoot promo on 6/27/2011 waas a promo that everyone knew could have been a turning point for the business to a new era that embraced worked storylines, blurring the line between what was backstage stuff and what was just "for TV"
Too bad instead of changing things, or being remembered in the same vein as Austin's KotR speech, it'll be just another great, well known, but ultimately meaningless (in the grand scheme of things) promo, like DX impersonating the nation.
It said a lot of things that needed to be said on behalf of the guys in the back, and about the upper management in WWE, and the direction of the company, and it resonated with the fans, and got huge mainstream coverage.
It should have lit a fire under everyone's asses