Chairmanchuck
Member
But a lot of people preordered a Oculus ready PC, then will return the PC, but keep the Oculus...
Thats shit.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Oculus Rift Launch Thread: Ballpark 2016
- Thread starter Compsiox
- Start date
- Status
But a lot of people preordered a Oculus ready PC, then will return the PC, but keep the Oculus...
Thats shit.
Sweet. You will definitely love (hopefully!) Elite Dangerous in VR. The scale is just massive. The ships feel huge yet at the same time realistic in size, and the planets.. oh god!
Anyway, I don't know if you can or not, but there are some shorts on the Rift store that I would recommend downloading now that they're still free; "Lost" and "Henry". They are not mindblowingly amazing but still a good 5min experience each. Makes you wonder what could Pixar do in the same situation.
I hope more companies start releasing stuff like this. Something like having special VR shorts for upcoming feature films would be just amazing.
If you want to watch non-360 videos on virtual desktop, just play them in a different player on your desktop. The built in player is just for VR videos.
bodine1231
Member
Placed a bundle order on Best Buy yesterday morning,shipped today for Wednesday delivery. Why couldn't it be this easy from the start?
Oculus gets the blame instead of Best Buy?
Felix Lighter
Member
Quantities allocated for retail before the first 7 minutes of preorders are fulfilled. Good fucking grief.
DouglasteR
Member
Hahaha.
Unbelievable. I bet Palmer internally finds that sort of "cool" because of the audacity and guile necessary to achieve something like this, but he will be tight lipped about it. Not that anything of this is his fault.
(but im inclined to a little rancour of some retailers getting their units of rift FIRST)
Unbelievable. I bet Palmer internally finds that sort of "cool" because of the audacity and guile necessary to achieve something like this, but he will be tight lipped about it. Not that anything of this is his fault.
(but im inclined to a little rancour of some retailers getting their units of rift FIRST)
Chairmanchuck
Member
Had mine pushed back from may to late july :-(
I believe all PC bundles are now sold out.
One could ask why retailers are already getting Rifts from Oculus before Oculus have handled their own pre-orders.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Legal contracts. They would have had a separate cache of units for retail and they couldn't start pulling from there for pre-orders because they would be breaking the contracts. It sucks for people waiting for pre-orders but I'm not sure Oculus could do it differently. They just have to ramp up their manufacturing to fill orders.
As long as they keep up the pace they made on Friday starting tomorrow I won't be too mad. Still annoying that people could just jump ahead without even paying to get the pc in the bundle. If tomorrow has a super slow day again I will be mad because I'm 5 seconds away from where they seemed to have stopped.
Thanks, yeah couldn't find one. bought Virtual desktop instead hehe.
I think you've got good reason to be hopeful this week. I'm expecting the same pattern as last week, a Monday arrival of units that gets shipped late Monday and most of Tuesday, with some end of week stragglers.
Pretty much. Those retailers basically already paid for their initial shipments. Oculus had to provide at least some of them. I imagine they probably won't get a fresh round of those out to those retailers for a while, either.
GearDraxon
Member
My Rift (ordered at 6min, 14sec after orders opened) arrives tomorrow. See you on the other side.
The Elite
BOSS
Seeing all of you getting your Rifts today is going to be rough. That charge decline hits hard. Hopefully they attempt to charge my card again today if there is a new batch. I wish I had some warning because I would give my bank another call to ensure it goes through. I have heard stories of people calling their bank and still getting a decline.
I hadn't considered it until I heard about it on the Bombcast, but Virtual Boy emulation on the OR is pretty good. I tried out VBjin and it is pretty much a perfect replacement for the VB. There is an experimental mode that enables head tracking, but I prefer the fixed mode that turns off headtracking and is pretty much just like looking in a Virtual Boy.
I'm sure it has very limited appeal, but there are a couple of games I enjoy on VB and it's nice not to have to drag it out of storage if I want to play them.
I'm sure it has very limited appeal, but there are a couple of games I enjoy on VB and it's nice not to have to drag it out of storage if I want to play them.
Enordash
Member
Finally got it! Unfortunately it came 20 minutes before I had to leave for work. I was able to get everything set up and through a snippet of DreamDeck and Introduction to Virtual Reality.
First off, the box it comes in may be the sexiest tech box I've ever experienced.
Setup is incredibly fast and easy. If you get an error on HDMI, make sure that the connector is seated all the way in. I need to take some more time adjusting the straps to get a better fit. I appreciate the calibration process, and Home seems to work really well.
What I saw of DreamDeck was great. It's visually impressive. It gives me faith that games will look rather good in VR. Introduction to Virtual Reality proves that I will never be able to handle a horror game or movie in VR. There's a part where people are on all sides of you doing random things. It really feels like an invasion of your personal space.
Like I said, I was only in for about 20 minutes. I did start to get hot, but my apartment is pretty hot in general. The nose gap didn't bother me and was useful for quickly finding the remote or controller. I could see where you'd want the room to be dark or dim though. I'll be jumping into Lucky's Tale tonight. I also want to watch one of the short films; probably Henry. I should have much more to say soon.
First off, the box it comes in may be the sexiest tech box I've ever experienced.
Setup is incredibly fast and easy. If you get an error on HDMI, make sure that the connector is seated all the way in. I need to take some more time adjusting the straps to get a better fit. I appreciate the calibration process, and Home seems to work really well.
What I saw of DreamDeck was great. It's visually impressive. It gives me faith that games will look rather good in VR. Introduction to Virtual Reality proves that I will never be able to handle a horror game or movie in VR. There's a part where people are on all sides of you doing random things. It really feels like an invasion of your personal space.
Like I said, I was only in for about 20 minutes. I did start to get hot, but my apartment is pretty hot in general. The nose gap didn't bother me and was useful for quickly finding the remote or controller. I could see where you'd want the room to be dark or dim though. I'll be jumping into Lucky's Tale tonight. I also want to watch one of the short films; probably Henry. I should have much more to say soon.
The Elite
BOSS
Sounds good. Need more impressions.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Played some of the new Dolphin VR build over the weekend. I hope the juddering gets fixed, but Wind Waker is still an incredible VR experience.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
When ATW is working properly, that sort of judder isn't present. The Dolphin VR guy is aware of it, at least, so maybe we'll get more updates sooner than later.
Dreamwriter
Member
Keep in mind that those PC bundles were also available as preorders, and on the initial (non-retail) preorder day, Oculus said that a small amount of Rifts would be set aside for retail sales in April. Now, the ability to order the bundle and cancel the computer, that seems like a Best Buy mistake.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Sure, but people who ordered a BestBuy PC a few days ago still got their Rift with it.
Dreamwriter
Member
Right, that's from the number that they set aside for retail sales, like they said they would.
Chairmanchuck
Member
I am aware of that. It just sucks for the people who preordered in the first 30 minutes, when others just bought that bundle a few days ago and will send the PC back.
Wrestlemania
Banned
That Virtual Boy emulator is amazing, works perfectly.
ah, sorry, I thought you meant the game's framerate, not head rotation judder.
Enordash
Member
Will do. This'll be a long day at work.
bmcphail2008
Member
Not in the US they weren't. You couldn't preorder the bundles on Amazon or Best Buy or any other retailer until February 23rd. That was six weeks after Oculus opened preorders of the headset on their website on January 6th. While I understand the desire to honor contracts, it is very likely that their contracts with those retailers contained the ability to delay or even cancel fulfillment albeit there may have been financial penalties involved. Not sure it would have made much difference in the volume of supply at this point, but the optics of delivering to people who ordered well after both Kickstarter backers and preorders on Oculus are very poor.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Yeah you have to run the game at a faster speed for it to be 90 fps. It works, but I don't think I'd want to play through Wind Waker like this. I just like to visit the locations and look around.
MiamiWesker
Member
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Ok, so initial impressions:
So far I've played bits of Lucky's Tail, Chronos, Pinball FX2 VR and Farlands. Also watched all the Dreamdeck stuff, Henry and Lost.
Looks like I used it for almost 3 hours straight, I didn't realize it was that long so obviously comfort is fine. It took me a couple of tries to get the fit right so that most of the weight was on the back of my head and once I got it was pretty comfortable. Still presses on the very tops of my cheeks but it's not too bad.
My previous experience with VR is the GearVR and the Rift is clearly much better. Positional tracking makes a huge difference. Some of the demos and stuff like Lucky's Tail is amazing when you can get in really close to things. Makes them feel like toys come to life.
The screendoor effect is definitely still there but it's not QUITE as bad as the Gear. I was hoping it would be mostly gone but I can still see it most of the time however once I get into a game you kind of forget about it.
The headphones are really quite good and I'm very glad it's integrated into the headset.
The only issue I have really is the nose gap, it's much worse than I was expecting. For long stretches I don't notice it at all but then occasionally it'll creep into my peripheral vision and it distracts from the immersion because I see snippets of my desk and monitor. It's actually worse with standing experiences because my monitor is below me and bright so it's visible a lot.
Game impressions:
Lucky's Tail - Only played for about 10 minutes but looks amazing. Like I said earlier it's like you're inside this cartoon toy world. Being able to look under and around objects is a game changer.
Pinball FX2 - I got very immersed in this actually. After a while it feels like you're actually playing a real table and you forget it's VR. The sound design helps a lot with this, it's extremely well done.
Chronos - Kind of got stuck not too far into the game but what I played was awesome. At one point you step outside and it's raining and it just felt very immersive. Can't wait to keep playing this.
Farlands - Very cute and the graphics are nice. It's nice being able to walk around a little bit on the planet, great sense of presence.
Next up is Elite Dangerous and Eve Valkyrie.
So far I've played bits of Lucky's Tail, Chronos, Pinball FX2 VR and Farlands. Also watched all the Dreamdeck stuff, Henry and Lost.
Looks like I used it for almost 3 hours straight, I didn't realize it was that long so obviously comfort is fine. It took me a couple of tries to get the fit right so that most of the weight was on the back of my head and once I got it was pretty comfortable. Still presses on the very tops of my cheeks but it's not too bad.
My previous experience with VR is the GearVR and the Rift is clearly much better. Positional tracking makes a huge difference. Some of the demos and stuff like Lucky's Tail is amazing when you can get in really close to things. Makes them feel like toys come to life.
The screendoor effect is definitely still there but it's not QUITE as bad as the Gear. I was hoping it would be mostly gone but I can still see it most of the time however once I get into a game you kind of forget about it.
The headphones are really quite good and I'm very glad it's integrated into the headset.
The only issue I have really is the nose gap, it's much worse than I was expecting. For long stretches I don't notice it at all but then occasionally it'll creep into my peripheral vision and it distracts from the immersion because I see snippets of my desk and monitor. It's actually worse with standing experiences because my monitor is below me and bright so it's visible a lot.
Game impressions:
Lucky's Tail - Only played for about 10 minutes but looks amazing. Like I said earlier it's like you're inside this cartoon toy world. Being able to look under and around objects is a game changer.
Pinball FX2 - I got very immersed in this actually. After a while it feels like you're actually playing a real table and you forget it's VR. The sound design helps a lot with this, it's extremely well done.
Chronos - Kind of got stuck not too far into the game but what I played was awesome. At one point you step outside and it's raining and it just felt very immersive. Can't wait to keep playing this.
Farlands - Very cute and the graphics are nice. It's nice being able to walk around a little bit on the planet, great sense of presence.
Next up is Elite Dangerous and Eve Valkyrie.
Enordash
Member
Thanks for the impressions! So stoked to try Lucky's Tale later! I also need to figure out the secret to getting the weight on the back of the head.
GearDraxon
Member
Only VR experience is Cardboard. The Rift is better.
Quick, probably-not-optimized thoughts:
Oculus Dreamdeck: Great intro to VR, fun stuff with presence and space.
The Witness - I'm into the final area of this, having played through in non-VR. I need to play with settings a bit to make it smoother, but going
and looking around, after spending so many hours in this world in two dimensions... it was kind of breathtaking. Even in its non-polished state, the sense of space was completely different. Not sure I'd want to play through all the puzzles in VR, but really impressive. Got a bit queasy attempting to move a different direction than I was looking.
Quick, probably-not-optimized thoughts:
Oculus Dreamdeck: Great intro to VR, fun stuff with presence and space.
The Witness - I'm into the final area of this, having played through in non-VR. I need to play with settings a bit to make it smoother, but going
to the top of the mountain
Wait what? I didn't think this worked on the latest runtime.
GearDraxon
Member
I set the -vr launch flag, and launched it from Steam... came right up. Threw up some sort of an error...but ran regardless. Some odd stuttering, but I hadn't touched any of whatever settings I had it on (likely way too high, etc.)
Palmer putting his foot in it again on Twitter, resulting in many pitchforks on the oculus subreddit.
Seriously Palmer, people are pissed at others jumping the queue with retail bundles (especially when they can cancel the PC part so only pay for the rift), so you really don't want to stoke those flames
Seriously Palmer, people are pissed at others jumping the queue with retail bundles (especially when they can cancel the PC part so only pay for the rift), so you really don't want to stoke those flames
Lord Griegous
Member
It is really infuriating, especially since it seems that my Vive order that I put on the 12th of April (after getting my 38min preorder of the Oculus pushed back to June) seems to have entered the pre-processing stage. In the end it looks like that I will end up with a Vive cause of Oculus' handling of everything. Their loss I guess...
- Status