Official 2008 Auto Racing thread (F1, Moto GP, WRC, NASCAR, etc)

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avaya said:
What I found funny.

Sony is the new sponsor of F1 on ITV. Their titling at each advert break is "testing the limits of high definition" or something along those lines.

I lol'ed.
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:lol

Kimi's dq'd from qualifying due to his fuel regulator failing before the pit entrance. He did throw a time in, so he'll start 16th. Typical. :lol

Damn...Webber with a nasty crash now. Looks like a technical glitch of some kind. Red flag.
 
BTW, here are the times from the third practice session...the Beamers were ripping it up.

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Australian GP free practice session 3 times 

1.  KUBICA        BMW           1m25.613s
2.  HEIDFELD      BMW           1m25.950s
3.  ALONSO        Renault       1m26.082s
4.  ROSBERG       Williams      1m26.171s
5.  COULTHARD     Red Bull      1m26.385s
6.  WEBBER        Red Bull      1m26.470s
7.  BUTTON        Honda         1m26.502s
8.  VETTEL        Toro Rosso    1m26.663s
9.  FISICHELLA    Force India   1m26.682s
10. TRULLI        Toyota        1m26.882s
11. MASSA         Ferrari       1m27.020s
12. HAMILTON      McLaren       1m27.084s
13. GLOCK         Toyota        1m27.162s
14. RAIKKONEN     Ferrari       1m27.163s
15. PIQUET        Renault       1m27.284s
16. BARRICHELLO   Honda         1m27.333s
17. SUTIL         Force India   1m27.489s
18. BOURDAIS      Toro Rosso    1m27.578s
19. NAKAJIMA      Williams      1m27.601s
20. KOVALAINEN    McLaren       1m27.992s
21. SATO          Super Aguri   1m28.363s
22. DAVIDSON      Super Aguri   1m28.912s


And first session qualifying times...

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Qualifying 1 

1.  KOVALAINEN   McLaren       1m25.664s 

2.  HEIDFELD     BMW           1m25.960s

3.  MASSA        Ferrari       1m25.994s

4.  KUBICA       BMW           1m26.103s

5.  RAIKKONEN    Ferrari       1m26.140s
6.  ROSBERG      Williams      1m26.295s
7.  BARRICHELLO  Honda         1m26.369s
8.  COULTHARD    Red Bull      1m26.381s
9.  TRULLI       Toyota        1m26.427s
10. HAMILTON     McLaren       1m26.572s
11. VETTEL       Toro Rosso    1m26.702s
12. BUTTON       Honda         1m26.712s
13. NAKAJIMA     Williams      1m26.891s
14. ALONSO       Renault       1m26.907s
15. WEBBER       Red Bull      1m26.914s
16. GLOCK        Toyota        1m26.919s





Knocked out:

17. FISICHELLA   Force India   1m27.207s 

18. BOURDAIS     Toro Rosso    1m27.446s

19. SUTIL        Force India   1m27.859s

20. SATO         Super Aguri   1m28.208s

21. PIQUET       Renault       1m28.330s

22. DAVIDSON     Super Aguri   1m29.059s
 
SCHUEY F1 said:
Kubica's balls are massive :lol , great job in qualifying by the BMW's, can't wait for the race tomorrow.
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Yeah, Kubica is going to be ultra-motivated, and Alonso and Kimi will give us a great show from the back of the grid,
 
Seeing a Formula 1 car barely in control in the middle of an apex and actually in a controled slide on its way out of a turn gives me the tingles.

We have a fantastic season ahead people.
 
:lol Massa

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Pole position shootout

1.  HAMILTON     McLaren       1m26.714s
2.  KUBICA       BMW           1m26.869s
3.  KOVALAINEN   McLaren       1m27.079s
4.  MASSA        Ferrari       1m27.178s
5.  HEIDFELD     BMW           1m27.236s
6.  TRULLI       Toyota        1m28.527s
7.  ROSBERG      Williams      1m28.687s
8.  COULTHARD    Red Bull      1m29.041s
9.  GLOCK        Toyota        1m29.593s
10. VETTEL       Toro Rosso    no time 



Qualifying 2 

1.  HAMILTON     McLaren       1m25.187s
2.  KUBICA       BMW           1m25.315s
3.  KOVALAINEN   McLaren       1m25.452s
4.  HEIDFELD     BMW           1m25.518s
5.  MASSA        Ferrari       1m25.691s
6.  VETTEL       Toro Rosso    1m25.842s
7.  ROSBERG      Williams      1m26.059s
8.  COULTHARD    Red Bull      1m26.063s
9.  TRULLI       Toyota        1m26.101s
10. GLOCK        Toyota        1m26.164s 

Knocked out: 

11. BARRICHELLO  Honda         1m26.173s
12. ALONSO       Renault       1m26.188s
13. BUTTON       Honda         1m26.259s
14. NAKAJIMA     Williams      1m26.413s
15. WEBBER       Red Bull      no time
16. RAIKKONEN    Ferrari       no time 



Qualifying 1 

1.  KOVALAINEN   McLaren       1m25.664s 
2.  HEIDFELD     BMW           1m25.960s
3.  MASSA        Ferrari       1m25.994s
4.  KUBICA       BMW           1m26.103s
5.  RAIKKONEN    Ferrari       1m26.140s
6.  ROSBERG      Williams      1m26.295s
7.  BARRICHELLO  Honda         1m26.369s
8.  COULTHARD    Red Bull      1m26.381s
9.  TRULLI       Toyota        1m26.427s
10. HAMILTON     McLaren       1m26.572s
11. VETTEL       Toro Rosso    1m26.702s
12. BUTTON       Honda         1m26.712s
13. NAKAJIMA     Williams      1m26.891s
14. ALONSO       Renault       1m26.907s
15. WEBBER       Red Bull      1m26.914s
16. GLOCK        Toyota        1m26.919s


Knocked out:

17. FISICHELLA   Force India   1m27.207s 
18. BOURDAIS     Toro Rosso    1m27.446s
19. SUTIL        Force India   1m27.859s
20. SATO         Super Aguri   1m28.208s
21. PIQUET       Renault       1m28.330s
22. DAVIDSON     Super Aguri   1m29.059s


Code: 
Australian GP grid

1.  HAMILTON       McLaren
2.  KUBICA         BMW
3.  KOVALAINEN     McLaren
4.  MASSA          Ferrari
5.  HEIDFELD       BMW
6.  TRULLI         Toyota
7.  ROSBERG        Williams
8.  COULTHARD      Red Bull
9.  VETTEL         Toro Rosso
10. BARRICHELLO    Honda
11. ALONSO         Renault
12. BUTTON         Honda
13. NAKAJIMA       Williams
14. GLOCK          Toyota*
15. WEBBER         Red Bull
16. RAIKKONEN      Ferrari
17. FISCHELLA      Force India
18. BOURDAIS       Toro Rosso
19. SUTIL          Force India
20. SATO           Super Aguri
21. PIQUET         Renault
22. DAVIDSON       Super Aguri

* five place grid penalty for gearbox change

Should be a fantastic race. The starts at the Aussie GP are usually crazy, and it could be more wild with TC out the window.

I'll be out late night, so I'm gonna record the race and watch either that or a TV replay Sunday morning.
 
Well at least Barrichello > Button. But it should be interesting race and i'm waiting to see how Kimi fights he's way back to top 5.
 
God damn Japanese TV, the race is being shown 5 hours after the event. During that time, I'm sure I'll accidently find out who won while browsing the web

:(

Must remember to not browse web
 
Yay, i Kimi is now starting 15th place. Timo Glock lost five places for impeding another competitor (Mark Webber).

Code: 
Wins in Melbourne by position:

Starting position    Wins     percentage

1.                     5         (41,5%)

2.                     2         (16,5)

3.                     2         (16,5)

4.                     1         (8,5%)

5.                     0

6.                     1         (8,5%)

7.                     0

8.                     0

9.                     0

10.                    0

11.                    1         (8,5%)

after 11th position there has been no one that could finish the race as winner. So it's looking pretty grim for Kimi. David Coulthard (2003) was the one who started from 11th place and still managed to win the whole race.
 
Tomorrow is going to rock. Motherfucking BRISTOL (who cares if it is only the busch, I love all things Bristol) and then F1 :lol

What exactly was wrong with Kimi and Mark? I think Mark had some brake issue, but I can't remember if Speed pinned down what went wrong for Kimi.
 
rhfb said:
Tomorrow is going to rock. Motherfucking BRISTOL (who cares if it is only the busch, I love all things Bristol) and then F1 :lol

What exactly was wrong with Kimi and Mark? I think Mark had some brake issue, but I can't remember if Speed pinned down what went wrong for Kimi.
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Kimi:
A few corners from the end of my in-lap, I had a problem with the electronic fuel pump which forced me to stop near the pit lane and so it was impossible for me to get back to the garage to try and fix the problem.
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FabCam said:
It's a shame that nobody was interested in Button. Now he's stuck at Honda for at least another season.
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There is nothing wrong with Honda, they have Ross Brawn now. Brawn magic will kick in next season and Honda will be one of the top teams in F1. Although if Button leaves he won't have any where to go (except for the crappy teams.).

Button's career is over.
 
FabCam said:
It's a shame that nobody was interested in Button. Now he's stuck at Honda for at least another season.
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If Honda with Brawn can get there shit together for next season then they will contend. People forget that Button finished 3rd in 2004(although te Mclarens were nowhere that year)

Plus he is only 28.
 
My polish balls are tingling with happiness. :D

I hope it'll be a good race for Kubica. If Sauber remembers go give Kubica a working car , that is.
 
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Both these guys just can't seem to catch a break. They seem to be born losers. :lol

F1 preview in Simpsons style.

GrayFoxPL said:
My polish balls are tingling with happiness. :D

I hope it'll be a good race for Kubica. If Sauber remembers go give Kubica a working car , that is.
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Kubica is one of those drivers who deserves to be world champion. I'll root for him today !
 
rhavec said:
Christ... please tell me I didn't miss 12 hours of Sebring.
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What are you smoking? It's a Saturday race. :lol In fact, it's just about to start. Speed Channel is showing it from now till 12pm, 2pm till 10:30pm (race ends at 10pm obviously). All times are EST.
 
WTF are people getting on Massa for again? He's been ahead of Kimi in the practices so far. What makes anyone think Kimi would have done any better? Besides, Kimi sabotaged Kubica's hot lap in Q2. Screw him.

Great pole by Hammy. That Mac is still fast, folks. The theoretical points race that includes Hammy and McLaren should be fun this season. I can see him grabbing the most poles, win and points and causing a lot of controversy for a second season in a row. :D That would be too sweet. Lose the WDC his first season due to a bonehead move in the last race, then lose it in his second season b/c of rules infractions. He is the heir apparent. ;)

Poor Alonso. He'll have Renault back at the sharp end of the grid by season's end. It is always fun watching him have to work for it IMO. It's why I started to like him in the first place. Piquet was sent there to die. That kid is so out of his league in comparison to Fonso. He is gonna get destroyed. It'll be nice to see Alonso dicing it up midpack and stealing some podiums...maybe?

BMW...the ultimate driving...HOLY KUBICA!!!! That crash in Montreal was truly blinked off. I thought he let Nick lead him around too much last season. Granted, Heidfeld had unlocked contract year cheat codes, but I still expected more from him. THIS is how you start the season. I love how he kept his foot in it with a wheel on the grass. That kid had balls, but also a pretty good race IQ. IIRC, he's been able to move through the field in the past. I hope for a BMW win or two or more this season. If any manufacturer deserves it, it's them. A well-run team that started off with a rocket of an engine, and gradually built a Sauber chassis that could tame it. Hallelujah! I love me some BMW.

This season will be great. I hate the new qualies change. I think Q2 should be it. Low fuel and a bunch of laps. Oh well, I can dream of the good old days. It won't be more than a handful of races before we see all the teams adopting the same fuel strategies again, and the order of the starting grid will start to solidify. Moseley needs to stop with these bullshit changes, and get back to the fundamentals. PEACE.
 
Honda's new Livery looks even uglier than last years. Ugh.

:lol @ Massa. His last year in a Ferrari before Alonso arrives next year. I think he's going to overdrive himself out of a good seat.

Pimpwerx, wake me up when Massa wins a race when he didn't start from pole. Anytime he's fighting for position against someone smarter than him (Hamilton, Raikkonen, Alonso, etc...), he'll gravel it or do something stupid. Balancing kamakazi dives and brains is something the best of F1 drivers have. And The tomato-head doesn't have much of it. :lol
 
Opus Angelorum said:
Do not rule out Alonso finishing in the top four this season, the Renault is much better during race conditions.
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Renault will improve. Their goal should be to make the car easier to drive and maintain its balance and reliability, rather than go power. Alonso won 2 championships without having the most power. The 2003 car had one of the weakest engines, but the chassis work and balance was so good that Alonso was able to overcome the power deficit and be in the points consistently.

Also, let's see how many cars crash or spin out on the first turn without traction control.
 
Opus Angelorum said:
Do not rule out Alonso finishing in the top four this season, the Renault is much better during race conditions.
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I really doubt it, there is too much teams better than Renault and they keep improving as well. It will be very difficult to finish in top 4.
 
MidiSurf said:
I really doubt it, there is too much teams better than Renault and they keep improving as well. It will be very difficult to finish in top 4.
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I agree. BMW, Toyota and Red Bull are all ahead of Renault. And all three have far more money than Renault to invest in improving the car.
 
Yup, did not see that one coming. Kubica in second, here's hoping he keeps his cool and gets that podium. Big nod to Vettel for 9th in the STR. He's getting a lot better and hopefully come out with some points this weekend.
 
DarkJediKnight said:
Renault will improve. Their goal should be to make the car easier to drive and maintain its balance and reliability, rather than go power. Alonso won 2 championships without having the most power. The 2003 car had one of the weakest engines, but the chassis work and balance was so good that Alonso was able to overcome the power deficit and be in the points consistently.

Also, let's see how many cars crash or spin out on the first turn without traction control.
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Ah, I see. He has pace and can certainly hold onto a lead if he has one, but you're right, he's still a bit of a blockhead in traffic. I just thought it was odd that he was getting shit despite showing better pace than Kimi this weekend. PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Great pole by Hammy. That Mac is still fast, folks. The theoretical points race that includes Hammy and McLaren should be fun this season. I can see him grabbing the most poles, win and points and causing a lot of controversy for a second season in a row. :D That would be too sweet. Lose the WDC his first season due to a bonehead move in the last race, then lose it in his second season b/c of rules infractions. He is the heir apparent. ;)
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what are you talking about? I thought Mclaren were cleared for 08? Is there still some shit hanging over their heads regarding points?
 
DarkJediKnight said:
I agree. BMW, Toyota and Red Bull are all ahead of Renault. And all three have far more money than Renault to invest in improving the car.
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Yeah the money is doing Toyota well, biggest budget team in F1 and where are they?

Money is good and Renault have tons of it AND people who know what they are doing.

Alonso will finish in the top 4 and I can see him getting around 90+ points this year. I have him fighting Massa for 3rd but if Massa can turn his luck around he could be world champion and should have been last year.
 
mrklaw said:
what are you talking about? I thought Mclaren were cleared for 08? Is there still some shit hanging over their heads regarding points?
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Huh...wtf am I talking about? Damn, how did I miss that they were cleared? Last I checked, there was further investigations going on with Stepneygate. I guess I was wrong, b/c McLaren-Mercedes is still listed on the F1's WCC table.

I guess that means Lewis Hamilton for 2008 WDC then. :D PEACE.
 
I bet Kimi goes by Alonso tomorrow like he's standing still. The Renault is not going to be competitve. Alonso is going to be scraping for points all year long.
 
Strangely enough, being a McLaren fan, I'm actually really looking forward to seeing what Kimi can do. The race is going to be amazing if he's seeing red so to speak.
 
Dave Long said:
I bet Kimi goes by Alonso tomorrow like he's standing still. The Renault is not going to be competitve. Alonso is going to be scraping for points all year long.
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I find this hard to believe, without traction control drivers are going to have be on top form and as far as most complete drivers go, Alonso may be #1. He also has the determination this year that was lacking last year.
 
Webber's BREMBO brake disk disintergrated. He's not fabulously happy.

"You can say, we are lucky we don't build aeroplanes," Webber said.:lol :lol

"It was nobody's fault that we went off. There was a structural failure and unfortunately I was a passenger in an accident which I can't do anything about."
 
:lol :lol :lol
Kimi is gonna make Alonso look like an 80year old on a tricycle

tomorrow we will see hamilton win with with heiki and the bmw and massa fighting for 2 and 3 ... the best placement i see for kimi is 4th
 
S. L. said:
:lol :lol :lol
Kimi is gonna make Alonso look like an 80year old on a tricycle

tomorrow we will see hamilton win with with heiki and the bmw and massa fighting for 2 and 3 ... the best placement i see for kimi is 4th
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Massa 1
Kubica 2
Kimi 3
Alonso 4
Lewis out within the first ten laps.
 
Awesome seeing all the drivers get ready and pose for the cameras and media - seeing them shake hands with one another, pat each other on the back and basically banter among one another as if they're a huge circle of friends :lol

Sure there are some huge rivalries in F1 but ultimately they seem to respect one another through various means.
 
Alonso will be in the top 5 after the 1st corner.
Kubica 1st, Lewis will go into the grass, rejoin the track carelessly and take out Webber.

15mins!
CAME ON!!!
 
Kowak said:
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Massa 1
Kubica 2
Kimi 3
Alonso 4
Lewis out within the first ten laps.
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I think you are waiting too much from Alanso and Renault. Alanso will be in 6th place at max today.

Lewis will spin once or twice and is fifth (i really hope). Mass will also blew it and in the end he will be 5th.

5 more minutes :b.

Kovalainen has more fuel than Hamilton. Hamilton will fill up around lap 19 and Heikki @ 21 to 22. Kubica has light car so not so much fuel (apparently).
 
CurlySaysX said:
Alonso will be in the top 5 after the 1st corner.
Kubica 1st, Lewis will go into the grass, rejoin the track carelessly and take out Webber.
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Why do you have to prophesize about Webber? :lol Let the man win a race for a change.

I hope Williams does well, despite the disappointing quali for Nakajima.
 
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