Official 2009 NBA Offseason Thread of Yue 'n Lue: Kiss The Rings

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Karakand said:
Don't be the nice guy.
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I wanna roll with him a hard pair we will be
A little gambling is fun when you're with me
Russian Roulette is not the same without a gun
And baby when it's love, if its not rough it isn't fun

Oh, oh, oh, oh, ohhhh, ohh-oh-e-ohh-oh-oh
 
Raging Spaniard said:
Obviously Im a homer for my boys, but the media in Spain blows everything out of proportion in a way that puts ESPN to shame, they think Sergio should be a starter, for Gods sake.
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The Spanish media and his agents are as big of a cause for the rift between Sergio and the Blazers as anyone. It got to his head that he's supposed to be getting 25-30mpg as a 22 year old third year starter eventhough he can't put together two solid quarters of play. Hell, Steve Nash was still coming off the bench in his fourth season as a pro. Not to mention Calderon wasn't a fulltime starter until this season and he's ten times the player Sergio is.
 
DY_nasty said:
refs made Charles Barkley fat

refs made guys miss meme moar.

WOO!! Bobcats rumored to be in talks for Ray Ray!!!!!
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Where'd you hear this?

g23 said:
Jamal Crawford for the 12th and filler
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Judderman said:
So Knicks-Age, who do you want in the draft?

If he's still on the board, Curry no question, but I just don't see him staying there till 8. If he's(Curry) off the board, I like Jrue Holiday. Brandon Jennings just reminds me of Marbury 2.0 with his recent comments about Rubio, and he is just banking on some "mystique" because of his play in Europe (which apparently wasn't that good). Other potential picks I could see are Jonny Flynn and Demar DeRozan.
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Curry has to be the pick if he's available. If not, then I want to see Jonny Flynn or Brandon Jennings.
 
I wouldn't mind Sergio to back up DJ.

But Portland's gonna have to fork over some picks. Felton gets you guys into the WCF.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
Kahn says the Wolves like Steph Curry. I'm gonna assume this is genuine because the Knicks have nothing to offer.
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How many times do we have to see a player of Steph Curry's build, talent, and mindset fail in the NBA before we realize that it doesn't work?
 
Bowser said:
Where'd you hear this?
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From same guys that told me that Felton and May were getting qualifying offers.

I don't like it though...

Felton
Nazr
Raja
Emeka

for

Ray
Perkins
Tony Allen
 
The Crimson Blur said:
How many times do we have to see a player of Steph Curry's build, talent, and mindset fail in the NBA before we realize that it doesn't work?
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Delonte West succeeded in the NBA, and was a far inferior college player that also had the benefit of coattails to ride.
 
DY_nasty said:
From same guys that told me that Felton and May were getting qualifying offers.

I don't like it though...

Felton
Nazr
Raja
Emeka

for

Ray
Perkins
Tony Allen
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Whoa. Whoa. I don't know...I don't think I'd do that deal, it's a bit too much. It could work though...I just don't know if giving up so much young talent is worth it.
 
DY_nasty said:
From same guys that told me that Felton and May were getting qualifying offers.

I don't like it though...

Felton
Nazr
Raja
Emeka

for

Ray
Perkins
Tony Allen
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Tony Allen is horrible and Perkins is just a goon.
 
Bowser said:
Whoa. Whoa. I don't know...I don't think I'd do that deal, it's a bit too much. It could work though...I just don't know if giving up so much young talent is worth it.
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It definitely gets us into the playoffs, but I don't think we should give up on Okafor yet. He's too much those old school players, the ones who don't break out until their 5th or 6th year in the league.

I don't think any Bobcats fan is so desperate as to jump at this trade.
 
The Frankman said:
This man does not know drafts. Boo him.
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Fuck you, dude...you actually think that Jared Jeffries is a valuable piece.

The one place I'll give you credit is the Gallinari pick last year. I hated that pick, but you said give it time, and Gallo actually isn't godawful.
 
DY_nasty said:
From same guys that told me that Felton and May were getting qualifying offers.

I don't like it though...

Felton
Nazr
Raja
Emeka

for

Ray
Perkins
Tony Allen
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I lol'd.
 
The team that takes Curry as a lottery pick is wasting the pick. He is a SG trapped in a PG's body.

Edit: Also Jodie Meeks is staying in the draft which means some team has guaranteed him a 1st round pick. Stupid.
 
DY_nasty said:
It definitely gets us into the playoffs, but I don't think we should give up on Okafor yet. He's too much those old school players, the ones who don't break out until their 5th or 6th year in the league.

I don't think any Bobcats fan is so desperate as to jump at this trade.
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I don't understand why they'd want Felton though with Rondo...would they make Felton the backup point? I think I'd do that trade if you removed Okafor and Perkins from the deal.
 
woodchuck said:
Over/Under where Hansbrough ends up? I'm saying 21
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I can see Utah taking him at 20 if Millsap happens to find himself somewhere else.

BTW, I do think Felton plays better under Brown and that he'll play better next season here BUT I think we have a better chance of getting better by getting rid of him, getting someone and a pick back for him, and letting DJ start.
Bowser said:
I don't understand why they'd want Felton though with Rondo...would they make Felton the backup point? I think I'd do that trade if you removed Okafor and Perkins from the deal.
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Celtics still shopping Rondo as well.
 
The Crimson Blur said:
How many times do we have to see a player of Steph Curry's build, talent, and mindset fail in the NBA before we realize that it doesn't work?
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Ben Gordon's pretty successful.
 
ALeperMessiah said:
cats get raped.
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No. Ray Allen's got another 3 elite years in him. Why would the Celts give up a HOFer, and one of the better interior defenders for an undersized PG (who's not as good as Rondo), an offensively challenged center, and Nazr's remaining 2 years of a horrendous contract?
 
DY_nasty said:
I can see Utah taking him at 20 if Millsap happens to find himself somewhere else.

BTW, I do think Felton plays better under Brown and that he'll play better next season here BUT I think we have a better chance of getting better by getting rid of him, getting someone and a pick back for him, and letting DJ start.
Celtics still shopping Rondo as well.
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Totally forgot about Utah. Yeah, I think Utah is taking him because they feel bad for the white guy
 
vas_a_morir said:
Jodie Meeks going to the NBA boooooooooooo this man boooooooo
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I knew he has going to, but I feel bad for the team that wastes a 1st round pick on him. He is JJ Redick except with less dribbling skills.
 
Hasphat6462 said:
No. Ray Allen's got another 3 elite years in him. Why would the Celts give up a HOFer, and one of the better interior defenders for an undersized PG (who's not as good as Rondo), an offensively challenged center, and Nazr's remaining 2 years of a horrendous contract?
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I think Ray Allen having 3 elite years left is a bit of a reach.
 
Hasphat6462 said:
No. Ray Allen's got another 3 elite years in him. Why would the Celts give up a HOFer, and one of the better interior defenders for an undersized PG (who's not as good as Rondo), an offensively challenged center, and Nazr's remaining 2 years of a horrendous contract?
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I'm not going to say Felton is better than Rondo, but I will say that Rondo is easily the most overrated point guard in the league. Celtics already have an offensively challenged center named Perkins too so...

Ray doesn't have 3 years either, he's got two at the most. When shooting guards fall off, they fall off fast. He's already defied time and the natural order this season.
 
DY_nasty said:
Ray doesn't have 3 years either, he's got two at the most. When shooting guards fall off, they fall off fast. He's already defied time and the natural order this season.
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If he follows the Reggie Miller time line, he's got 1 more good year left.
 
I wish Kerry Kittles had some kind of miracle surgery... I'd personally seduce him into coming back to the NBA and playing for the Bobcats.
 
DY_nasty said:
I'm not going to say Felton is better than Rondo, but I will say that Rondo is easily the most overrated point guard in the league. Celtics already have an offensively challenged center named Perkins too so...

Ray doesn't have 3 years either, he's got two at the most. When shooting guards fall off, they fall off fast. He's already defied time and the natural order this season.
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Here's what we know about Rondo: League's best defender at the point guard position in a league full of great point guards, best back court rebounder, can play the penetration-kickout game extremely well, no jump shot, decent vision, and great athleticism with a mean streak. All that promise adds up to at worst, a starting point guard on a championship caliber team, and at best, a #1 guy on a championship team. At this point, Rose and Paul are the only guys I'd take ahead of him.

And Jesus Shuttlesworth? Here's why I say he's got 3 years left. He takes care of his body, doesn't put pressure on his knees. His ankles and back looked fine this whole season so as long as he's got his jump shot, he'll be putting up 17-20 a night with 2-3 assists easy.

Honestly, why would Boston do that trade? Nazr's horrible contract alone makes it a no go.
 
Hasphat6462 said:
Here's what we know about Rondo: League's best defender at the point guard position in a league full of great point guards, best back court rebounder, can play the penetration-kickout game extremely well, no jump shot, decent vision, and great athleticism with a mean streak. All that promise adds up to at worst, a starting point guard on a championship caliber team, and at best, a #1 guy on a championship team. At this point, Rose and Paul are the only guys I'd take ahead of him.

And Jesus Shuttlesworth? Here's why I say he's got 3 years left. He takes care of his body, doesn't put pressure on his knees. His ankles and back looked fine this whole season so as long as he's got his jump shot, he'll be putting up 17-20 a night with 2-3 assists easy.

Honestly, why would Boston do that trade? Nazr's horrible contract alone makes it a no go.
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No. He is not.

He's got a top 5 PF of all time behind him and a goon of a center to intimidate people. He gets to play with 2 hall of hamers and ESPNs 2008 GOAT. I guarantee that 60% of the point guards in the league would be successful with Ray and PP on the wings and Garnett down low. I'm not saying he's a scrub, but basketball is still a team game, and a team can make one person look really damned good. Btw, Rondo's been getting sliced the fuck up lately. He's been at the Chris Paul school of "defense" where only steals, flops, and thuggery are all that matters.

There is simply no excuse for any point guard in the league to shoot as poorly as Rondo at that stage of their career.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
Allen's problem is that he's been playing 40 minutes a night for 13 years.
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Fine, let's assume Ray's got just one more year left in him. Why would you deal him if you were Boston? What do you get in return from that trade? Wouldn't that be a very dumb way to break up a 60 win team?
 
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