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[Doytch]

Whats wrong with that? Cy Young is for best pitcher, and MVP is for the player who is most valuable to his team. MVP almost always goes to a player on a contending team, whereas many CY Youngs have gone to pitchers with bad teams.

One of the arguments idiots trot out is that playing on a contender is more stressful or difficult. So, transitively, a good pitcher on a shitty team shouldn't win a Cy because it's easy for him to be good.

Typing that out seemed so incredibly ludicrous, I can't believe people believe it.

 

[yankeehater]

That is nuts, I would think winning games with a bad team around you would be way more stressful because you know going in you wont be getting a lot of run support most games. I think Carlton's 27 wins in 1972 for a team that only won 59 is amazing, I cant imagine someone saying it was easier for him to win with dreck like that around him.

 

[CajoleJuice]

Anyone read Heyman's tortured article yesterday about post-season awards. He spends a paragraph talking about how Kemp is essentially ineligible for the MVP because his team is not in playoff contention...then gives Kershaw the Cy Young.

Get fucked.

He also called Ryan Braun a "terrific all-around player." :jakncoke

 

[Sanjuro]

Back to this argument again. Just create the "Jim Rice" given to the best overall / feared hitter and it should solve this.

 

[ToxicAdam]

How great are all these inter-division series this late in the season? The Indians still have 14 games against the White Sox/Tigers this month.

It's one of the key things that will go away if baseball decides to blow up the divisions and just have two leagues. That's why I am against it.

 

[eznark]

He also called Ryan Braun a "terrific all-around player." :jakncoke

If Braun were even a replacement level defender......sigh. -8.5 in the field and still sporting a 6.1 WAR? Goddamn

So the Phils are going to lose all 6 games in hand? Seems likely.

"not outside the realm of possibility" does not equal "likely." Irene has made it more possible though. 33 games in 30 days or something? 10 games against the Brewers and the Braves?

Do I like the Brewers chances of catching them? Not at all. Will I be floored if they do? Not at all.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Braves lineup tonight. Fredi swapped Chipper and Freeman. Constanza's ankle is still giving him issues.

1. Bourn - CF
2. Prado - LF
3. McCann - C
4. Uggla - 2B
5. Jones - 3B
6. Freeman - 1B
7. Gonzalez - SS
8. Heyward - RF
9. Jurrjens - P

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Who will make it back to the Majors first Brandon Webb, Moyer or Scott Kazmir?

 

[Doytch]

Who will make it back to the Majors first Brandon Webb, Moyer or Scott Kazmir?

Dustin McGowan needs to be in on this!

 

[Meier]

I think anyone with half a brain knows the MVP this season is Matt Kemp and the Cy Young is Clayton Kershaw. Kemp is a longshot due to the ridiculous you have to be in 1st place rule by Clay should be considered the frontrunner at this point IMO.

If the Dodgers can stay hot and finish over .500 at a bare minimum, it obviously will help Kemp's chances a little bit.

 

[turnbuckle]

How great are all these inter-division series this late in the season? The Indians still have 14 games against the White Sox/Tigers this month.

It's one of the key things that will go away if baseball decides to blow up the divisions and just have two leagues. That's why I am against it.

It definitely ups the odds of having the last stretch of the season see some comebacks. The Tigers' position is almost a mirror of 2009 and knowing we have several more games with the Indians and Sox makes me nervous.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Indians just optioned Matt LaPorta to AAA. I know he's having a disappointing season, but it seems weird considering the rosters are expanding in two days.

 

[eznark]

Indians just optioned Matt LaPorta to AAA. I know he's having a disappointing season, but it seems weird considering the rosters are expanding in two days.

Wow, not eligible for postseason roster when the Indians surge, either.

 

[Meier]

Indians just optioned Matt LaPorta to AAA. I know he's having a disappointing season, but it seems weird considering the rosters are expanding in two days.

Love seeing a Gator fail.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Wow, not eligible for postseason roster when the Indians surge, either.

Yes he is. He's still on their 40-man roster. The rule is anyone who hasn't been on your 40-man roster all season before September 1 is ineligible for the playoffs unless they are replacing someone who's injured.

 

[eznark]

Yes he is. He's still on their 40-man roster. The rule is anyone who hasn't been on your 40-man roster all season before September 1 is ineligible for the playoffs unless they are replacing someone who's injured.

Ah, I thought it was the active roster unless replacing an injury. Regardless, I hope this seasons escapades in "mortgaging the future" work out like it did with LaPorta for the Crew.

 

[McNei1y]

Looks like the nats are going with the double 1B, no LF lineup tonight:

Ian Desmond, SS
Rick Ankiel, CF
Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
Michael Morse, 1B
Laynce Nix, RF
Danny Espinosa, 2B
Chris Marrero, 1B
Wilson Ramos, C
Livan Hernande

With Jordan Zimmermann being shut down, the Nats are calling up Tom Millone to take his spot, starting Saturday. He's got like a 85ish fastball and he averages 8-9ks.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Looks like the nats are going with the double 1B, no LF lineup tonight:

Ian Desmond, SS
Rick Ankiel, CF
Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
Michael Morse, 1B
Laynce Nix, RF
Danny Espinosa, 2B
Chris Marrero, 1B
Wilson Ramos, C
Livan Hernande

With Jordan Zimmermann being shut down, the Nats are calling up Tom Millone to take his spot, starting Saturday. He's got like a 85ish fastball and he averages 8-9ks.

Just looked him up in the Baseball America Prospect Handbook I got from Borders. All books and Blurays are 50% off rite now. Says he has a funky rotation and likes to change speeds. And nice to hear Strasburg is coming back Sept. 6.

 

[Sanjuro]

Hurricane is gone. Power is back. Red Sox/Yankees. feelsgoodman.

 

[yankeehater]

Hurricane is gone. Power is back. Red Sox/Yankees. feelsgoodman.

It's Ted Williams birthday today to.

 

[Sanjuro]

It's Ted Williams birthday today to.

The start of the Jimmy Fund Telethon. Donate some money you poors.

 

[Doytch]

Wow Jay Bruce has ZERO range.

 

[captmcblack]

lol, Granderson didn't get put on.

 

[Sanjuro]

lol, Granderson didn't get put on.

It was hard to tell. The only replay I saw was at full speed.

 

[Dragon]

That Derek Jeter defense.

 

[BigJonsson]

BRETT LAWRIE!

 

[Doytch]

Who dat. Who dat who dat.

GORDIE DOUGIE

 

[McNei1y]

I just love seeing Morse hit homers. He rocks them everytime.

 

[Malo]

I didn't think that was going to get through lol

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

What the fuck is the Temperature Gage?

 

[JABEE]

Howard! 101

 

[Joey Fox]

I just love seeing Morse hit homers. He rocks them everytime.

How does he not have more with his power and average?

I wonder what his potential is for home runs in a year.

 

[clemenx]

Doug Fister alert!

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

When are the Rangers going to shutdown Holland, Ogando and Harrison?

 

[clemenx]

Pelfrey can't run for shit, wow. I know he's a pitcher but still.

 

[Joey Fox]

Pelfrey can't run for shit, wow. I know he's a pitcher but still.

You should see Livan Hernandez's double just now.

 

[yankeehater]

Halladay with a 3RBI double!!

 

[JABEE]

Halladay with a 3RBI double!!

Pence also hit a HR that was at the letters.

 

[McNei1y]

Man, I wish the nats didn't have to deal with the sub .250 Werth and Desmond. The lineup could look a lot better.

 

[The Frankman]

Pelfrey about to meltdown after someone steals a base on him. I didn't see this coming.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I like how Juan Pierre can make any routine play look like it's being performed by a deformed monkey.

 

[yankeehater]

Pence also hit a HR that was at the letters.

Great way to get 800.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Nice to see Jurrjens is still total garbage.

 

[The Frankman]

Nice to see Jurrjens is still total garbage.

Mike Pelfrey for your piece of garbage. Right now.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Good thing all these kids were in AAA this whole time.

 

[captmcblack]

Good god, these teams take so many pitches it's ridiculous.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Fucking Royals couldn't hold a lead.

Win this game you bastards.

 

[Malo]

Good god, these teams take so many pitches it's ridiculous.

Another 3 hour plus game confirmed.

 

[Celsior]

Posada is pure garbage

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Another 3 hour plus game confirmed.

Isn't that short for a yankee game?