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Official 2011 MLB Thread v.2: The Mets are terrible.

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Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
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jman2050

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The Red Sox offense looks completely dead. They couldn't hit a triple A pitcher right now.

(Unless his name is Brian Matusz of course)
 

Puddles

Banned
Final stats:

Pitcher A: 21-5, 2.28 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 248 SO, 54 BB
Pitcher B: 19-6, 2.35 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 220 SO, 35 BB

Which guy is the Cy Young winner?
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
Montero isn't eligible for the postseason, right? Was he on the 40 man before the call up?
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
Puddles said:
Final stats:

Pitcher A: 21-5, 2.28 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 248 SO, 54 BB
Pitcher B: 19-6, 2.35 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 220 SO, 35 BB

Which guy is the Cy Young winner?
Entering Today:

8.0 fWAR
7.1 rWAR
160 ERA+
2.19 FIP
2.68 xFIP
2.61 SIERA
6.38 K/BB
Halladay

6.8 fWAR
6.7 rWAR
163 ERA+
2.43 FIP
2.82 xFIP
2.65 SIERA
4.57 K/BB
Kershaw
 

Puddles

Banned
Windu said:
Entering Today:

8.0 fWAR
7.1 rWAR
160 ERA+
2.19 FIP
2.68 xFIP
2.61 SIERA
6.38 K/BB
Halladay

6.8 fWAR
6.7 rWAR
163 ERA+
2.43 FIP
2.82 xFIP
2.65 SIERA
4.57 K/BB
Kershaw

ERA+ is the only relevant stat on that list.

To voters, that is.

Edit: maybe the WAR stats as well, but they won't be the difference maker.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Celsior said:
Yeah Kay and Singleton, not like a Yankees manager has not be fired who won them 4 WS, and made the playoffs every year.
Singleton, I think, crawled out of a hole in 1994 and is still using the same talking points.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
Puddles said:
ERA+ is the only relevant stat on that list.

To voters, that is.

Edit: maybe the WAR stats as well, but they won't be the difference maker.
well none of those stats matter to voters. At least most of them, just look at the AL Cy Young Race. Even though it should be close, and it should be between a few pitchers. Verlander is probably going to win in a landslide because of the wins. People are even saying he should win MVP which is laughable.
 

Doytch

Member
Puddles said:
ERA+ is the only stat on that list my poor brain can understand.
Yeah, basically.

Oh, you edited. I don't really give a shit about predicting what the votes end up as. If you want to talk about who's been a better pitcher, and about how you want to place value on certain stats, that's another thing.
 

Puddles

Banned
It is so sweet to see the Red Sox implode like this.

What's funny is that I actually hopped on their sentimental bandwagon back in 2003. It only took a few years for the national media to turn them into my most-hated team in the league.
 

Doytch

Member
Re:what the Yanks announcers were just saying about Lackey/Angels, the Angels had Weaver, Santana, Pineiro, Kazmir (lol Angels FO so smaaart), Saunders and Haren start for them that year. Not surprising they didn't bother paying out the ass for Lackey, considering he would've been a #4 SP for them.

MLB DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN
 

Puddles

Banned
Doytch said:
Yeah, basically.

Oh, you edited. I don't really give a shit about predicting what the votes end up as. If you want to talk about who's been a better pitcher, and about how you want to place value on certain stats, that's another thing.

We can talk about how one guy just locked up the Triple Crown of pitching (tied in victories), while the other guy only has a case if we attempt to completely factor out luck, which we don't do for ANY other award in sports.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
well we don't really care who will win, just who we think deserves to win. And that is halladay, sorry Kershaw has had a great year, but halladay has been the better pitcher.
 
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