PataHikari
Banned
sprocket said:
It really has more to do with the fact that the 360 and PS3 received so little a bump from said GTA.
And that the Wii outsold them both combined.
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Official April 2008 NPD thread of massive disappointment if you're not Nintendo
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It really has more to do with the fact that the 360 and PS3 received so little a bump from said GTA.
And that the Wii outsold them both combined.
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Nutter said:
I think that that MGS4 might have 300-400k when it comes out.
Eteric Rice
Member
Nintendo goes after the casuals first, because they know they only buy one system.
Then, they'll be coming after us.
HIDE.
Then, they'll be coming after us.
HIDE.
UncleGuito
Banned
Because 3 million units sold didn't spur new console sales (even though there's no direct, proven correlation between the two). GTA4 sold a shit load.sprocket said:
Count Dookkake
Member
Sharp said:
See post 940.
The analogy is bogus. In fact, after thinking about it for a moment, I would argue that it is backwards.
Lostconfused
Member
TheBranca18 said:
Just because its bitter doesnt meant it cant be delicious. I take my team with lots of lemon and sugar, just because its sour doesn't mean that it cant be sweet at the same time.
Opiate said:
SO TRUE. Someone Finally said it. It also applies to system launch date. Gamers would say "PS3 should have launched earlier or around the same time as 360" or "The N64 shouldn't have been delayed" but if they did they wouldn't have had any games and would have been less powerful and as such wouldn't have been the PS3 or N64 that they know.
Wyndstryker
Member
sprocket said:
it was tracked for 5 days.
NPD tracking ended on the 3rd
Lostconfused
Member
Eteric Rice said:
So what does that mean, a mario/zelda/metroid game every two years?
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Wyndstryker said:
How long was Halo 3 tracked for?
Penguin said:
They have the 360 SKU as well. PS3 SKUs aren't likely to go anywhere for a while.
MisterHero
Super Member
OMG YES PLZLostconfused said:
norinrad21
Banned
Brannon said:
peanuts
Lostconfused
Member
MisterHero said:
Speaking of which i should get around to actually buying them, its been probably more than half a year since i touched a wiimote.
reilo said:
I believe that was my point, what is nintendo's strategy to go after the hardcore besides the usual?
$350 (core doesn't count) for a couple year old console just doesn't cut it.
MS f'ed themselves by releasing a console with poor reliability and now trying to recoup costs by leaving the price high.
Sony at least has a reason in the BD drive for the high costs...regardless, the both need massive price drops soon.
MS f'ed themselves by releasing a console with poor reliability and now trying to recoup costs by leaving the price high.
Sony at least has a reason in the BD drive for the high costs...regardless, the both need massive price drops soon.
timetokill
Banned
Hcoregamer00 said:
To be fair, I was going to pick it up and couldn't find it anywhere. Everywhere was sold out, and had apparently only gotten one or two copies.
It sounds like the publishers weren't expecting much from it in the first place. Similar to what damned NMH, to a certain extent. No advertising + no copies to be found = minor sales.
Joe Molotov
Member
Faces have been rocked.
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Grecco said:
So, Halo outsold it by a healthy amount on one platform and caused a hardware boost. It is likely that this will be the only game to cause a boost for either the PS3 and 360 outside of normal season trends this generation.
MisterHero
Super Member
But could Sega make the awesome software that could accompany that hardware?Jtyettis said:
No really, my mind is blown. The Wii almost doubled up both the PS3 and 360 combined. I really don't know what to make of that. To top it off, it's simply a system I have absolutely no interest in. What a weird ass market. Man, I would hate to be a 3rd party right now. What do you do? Where do you go?
I don't want to succumb to kneejerk reactions, but both MS and Sony have to find a way to get this train rolling. It's pretty clear that both systems (and all forms of them) are just too expensive.
I don't want to succumb to kneejerk reactions, but both MS and Sony have to find a way to get this train rolling. It's pretty clear that both systems (and all forms of them) are just too expensive.
UncleGuito
Banned
That's my main worry about the Wii.Lostconfused said:
sooo... maybe a lot of people who were going to buy a PS360 are waiting for their stimulas checks to come in... even if you have direct deposit, you didnt get the money til around the 1st week of May...
I think everything will be fine next month... as far as the PS3 goes.. its just another month of low sale.. nothing new :lol
I think everything will be fine next month... as far as the PS3 goes.. its just another month of low sale.. nothing new :lol
sprocket said:
GTAIV had five days of sales in this reporting period.
I expected much more from GTA4's debut. Halo 3 sold quite a bit more in the same time frame (3.3m) than GTAIV did on 360 and PS3 combined (2.85m). I figured GTAIV would crush that debut, but it didn't. And it sure didn't boost hardware sales either.
FitzOfRage
Member
Bulla564 said:
You know the Beatles still outsell Britney Spears, so you might want to re-evaluate which side you're actually representing.
Agent Icebeezy said:
12 days, actually.
and it followed a price drop and had a new sku. now, the sku was a non-starter over the long haul, but it surely contributed during that first month.
but finally (hopefully) people will stop with the "this one game will change everything" mentality. it won't.
These numbers are astonishing. I am astonished. I expected Wii hugeness, but I frankly expected Mario Kart to move more units.
PS360 sales are not good at all; perhaps the GTA4 bump, to the extent it exists, will occur in May.
Oh, and 1.85:1 is pretty damned close to 2:1, shane :lol
PS360 sales are not good at all; perhaps the GTA4 bump, to the extent it exists, will occur in May.
Oh, and 1.85:1 is pretty damned close to 2:1, shane :lol
Grecco said:
I belive it was more like 12 days. Looking at the September NPD thread, it tracked through October 6th, and it was released on the 25th of September. So they probably will end up pretty close over that period. Of course GTA was released on two systems, and the 360 has a larger install base now. Then again there is probably a bit of crossover with owners of the two systems, and GTA definetly did better in Europe.
Agent Icebeezy said:
The Level of Hype of Halo. With a MNF Commercial a year before its release. Burger King Combos, Cars, Mountain Dew, Millions spent in epic advertising vs a Delayed game with some comercials a week before its release. Most of them payed by Gamestop.
It was pretty pretty obvious that it was going to happen
sleeping_dragon
Banned
This month NPD is hilarious and full of irony, for people who might not familiar with gaming who look at the numbers, they might think that GTA4 was a Wii exclusive. :lol
GTA also didn't have it's own soda. You have to stand in awe of the Microsoft marketing machine when it came to Halo 3.
Hell, there were almost no ads anywhere for GTA even in the days before release. That's not to take away anything from Halo 3 because it's a fantastic game, but I think GTA will have much longer legs.
Hell, there were almost no ads anywhere for GTA even in the days before release. That's not to take away anything from Halo 3 because it's a fantastic game, but I think GTA will have much longer legs.
kbear
Member
To the 360/PS3 fans here: I think we should just enjoy the next few years as much as we can, especially if things continue to trend this way and X720/PS4 go the Wii route. Just ignore the impending apocalypse and enjoy the awesome games we have for the next few years. Personally, I'm swamped with amazing games on 360/PS3. I've got a huge backlog and have never been more excited for a future line-up than with what's coming out over the next year for the HD consoles (Gears 2, Banjo, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Mirror's Edge, Fallout 3, on and on, I could make a mile long list). Personally, besides Mario Galaxy and possibly Boom Blox for a few hours, I've got like absolutely zero interest in the Wii line-up. Maybe it's because I'm a gfx whore or because Nintendo games don't do it for me or because I use online (Xbox Live) so much, I dunno. I mean I've got no interest in Smash Bros. which is basically a fan service fighter with poor online play. I prefer SF4, VF5, SC4, etc. There's nothing wrong with Smash, it just isn't my type of game. Couldn't be less interested in stuff like Mario Kart, either. I played Okami last gen. There's a ton of people like me as well. This is what I'm talking about. Just enjoy the next few years and ignore the impending apocalypse. If this is the last gen with huge technological advancement in terms of CPU / GPU / RAM etc, then get a gaming PC. There's nothing else we can do. Fortunately, software sales are still great. Look at RB6 Vegas 2 and Army of Two last month (700 and 600k, respectively), so we're still gonna get a ton of quality, high production value third-party games.