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Official BewareSamFisher.com Thread (No, no, 56K)

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
This whole thread will probably have spoilers for those of you who care... so if you don't want them, quit reading now.


Anyways, I was cruising around the Ubisoft website for SC and stumbled upon the start of the SC4 website-- www.bewaresamfisher.com. Anyways, this shit is looking phenomenal. I know some people have posted pics before, but I"ll post some of the relevant ones in a bit. Simply put, though, this looks as though Ubisoft is pulling out all the stops in the next Splinter Cell game.

Story: Sarah Fisher was killed by a drunk driver. Sam Fisher is then discharged from Third Echelon. Nobody hears from him until someone notices this guy robbing banks, consecutively, with the same MO-- no mask, fully automatic rifle, always calm and no concern for people killed. After a couple in a row police got a good shot of him on surveillance camera and discovered that a former Navy Seal was doing this shit. Sam Fisher. Sam ends up pulling off a string of roughly 30 bank robberies (I believe), then finally gets caught in Denver and sentenced to prison. A few months later and there's a prison riot, and guess who breaks out? Our questionable buddy Sam. After that, the only known communication about him is one piece of intel about a terror cell interested in hiring Captain America here.

Now, the coolest part about this shit is the website, which constantly updates their intel on Fisher, where he's at, etc. If you call the number on the "Wanted" ad, you get linked into a Sat-Phone conversation between the two aforementioned terrorists, discussing hiring Fisher, as one was impressed with his work. You neve rknow if they're terrorists or not, but it heavily eludes to it. When you call the number on the site, you then also get the option of being updated on further advances in the given intel. How do they do it? They send you a text message about once a week (from what I gather) that tells you a certain 800 number to call, where you call and get the newest information told to you via your cell phone. Kinda immature, but hell, it's still cool as shit.

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...in all honesty, you should try to visit the site, even if you're not a big SC fan. The way they paint Sarah's death is so tragic that it feels like I'm reading about someone that I went to school with or something. Very, very real and gritty. I for one can not wait for this game to come out. This may be my reason for buying a 360.
 
The idea of having his daughter die doesn't jive with me, though I'm sure she's really still alive. They probably hired M. Night Shyamalan to do the story or something.

"What a twist!"
 
BigBoss said:
They've already spoiled the story thanks to the retarded subtitle, idiots.

Well yeah, but not the true fate of his daughter. They should just call it Splinter Cell: Double Agent Whose Daughter is Still Alive.
 
dude, his daughter is gonna be dead. they're gonna send some new merc into a cell to get intel, and he's gonna get his shit kicked in by SAM FUCKIN' FISHER.

If they can pull off a plotline as deep as it's looking right now, then Sam will surpass Snake as the best Stealth CHARACTER in video games. You don't get any personal info on snake... Sam will pwn snake.

Kojima has been put on notice.
 
Snaku said:
Well yeah, but not the true fate of his daughter. They should just call it Splinter Cell: Double Agent Whose Daughter is Still Alive.

Since Sam is a double agent and everything was planned to get him in jail I'm pretty confident that Sarah's death was staged. At least they've managed to work her back into the story though, I thought they had an interesting dynamic in the original Splinter Cell and it helped develop Sam's character but she was completely ignored in the sequels.

You don't get any personal info on snake

Was that a joke? :lol
 
I like how his 'psyche profile' includes 'Caucasian.' Because that's obviously psychological.

Also it's on a legal pad.

Also.. yeah, a lot of other stuff.
 
BigBoss said:
Since Sam is a double agent and everything was planned to get him in jail I'm pretty confident that Sarah's death was staged. At least they've managed to work her back into the story though, I thought they had an interesting dynamic in the original Splinter Cell and it helped develop Sam's character but she was completely ignored in the sequels.

I just fail to see what importance faking her death would have to the overall story, unless...could she be working for Third Echelon now!? Perhaps she's the new Splinter Cell, while Sam is behind enemy lines?
 
Snaku said:
Well yeah, but not the true fate of his daughter. They should just call it Splinter Cell: Double Agent Whose Daughter is Still Alive.

I'm not liking this at all. I've had a hard time staying interested in the previous SC games, simply because I really don't give a damn about his missions. Everything is on a far too high level; nations going to war over this or that, and eventually the 3rd world war is on the horizon. I understand that they've been trying to keep it close to the Clancy format, but political intrigue doesn't necessarily make for an interesting game format. But I really like the style, and the core gameplay format.

So I've been hoping they would add more depth to the character, and give the franchise some realistic sense of purpose. And it looked like they'd actually achieve that this time around, but I guess I was too optimistic.
 
Snaku said:
I just fail to see what importance faking her death would have to the overall story, unless...could she be working for Third Echelon now!? Perhaps she's the new Splinter Cell, while Sam is behind enemy lines?

Or Sam and TE thought it'd be safest to hide her away from any contact she would have with Sam's new 'friends' since they would know a lot about Sam before they decided to recruit him.
 
Man, I've been wanting an improvement in the series' narrative since it started, but this whole setup is just so laughable and flat out stupid, and it completely undermines everything they've built Sam Fisher as. :/

whytemyke said:
dude, his daughter is gonna be dead. they're gonna send some new merc into a cell to get intel, and he's gonna get his shit kicked in by SAM FUCKIN' FISHER.

If they can pull off a plotline as deep as it's looking right now, then Sam will surpass Snake as the best Stealth CHARACTER in video games. You don't get any personal info on snake... Sam will pwn snake.

Kojima has been put on notice.
...

:lol
 
MightyHedgehog said:
Or Sam and TE thought it'd be safest to hide her away from any contact she would have with Sam's new 'friends'.

Would be damn lame to go through this big show they're making of his daughter dying if all that comes of it is that she's eating popcorn and watching I Love Lucy reruns in a safehouse. :/
 
Snaku said:
I just fail to see what importance faking her death would have to the overall story, unless...could she be working for Third Echelon now!? Perhaps she's the new Splinter Cell, while Sam is behind enemy lines?
to give the terrorists a reason to believe he flipped?
 
I loved what I was hearing at first regarding the story, Sam's daughter is killed and then he goes crazy killing people and robbing banks. I thought it was a great twist for his character but now it appears hes once again playing the government stooge like hes always done, break away Sam, go crazy.
 
The Faceless Master said:
to give the terrorists a reason to believe he flipped?

Still lame. They ignore her for two games only to bring her back as a very minor plot device that could easily be explained in some other way? If that's the best story they could come up with, Ubi should seriously put these yearly editions of SC on hold. Unimaginative shit like that is what's keeping the franchise down.
 
Well, I'd argue that the appeal to SC comes from the mission design...and graphics. I've never been that into the series' plot and characters, anyway. Too dry in the Tom Clancy-game way of things. A more dramatic turn for the series, this seems to be.
 
Hmm, wonder if they're going to turn it into a promotional game, like the littlechiquita.com site for Chaos Theory. Love those kind of puzzles.
 
If they can pull off a plotline as deep as it's looking right now, then Sam will surpass Snake as the best Stealth CHARACTER in video games. You don't get any personal info on snake... Sam will pwn snake
Uhhh, have you even TOUCHED a Metal Gear Solid game?!?!

It's rather unfortunate that, despite all this work they are doing for SC4, they've already given it away. Unlike a Metal Gear game, where even the most seemingly spoilerific trailers wouldn't even BEGIN to give away the story, I feel as if we already know the result here.

Come on, double agent? Could this setup be anymore obvious?!
 
dark10x said:
Uhhh, have you even TOUCHED a Metal Gear Solid game?!?!

It's rather unfortunate that, despite all this work they are doing for SC4, they've already given it away. Unlike a Metal Gear game, where even the most seemingly spoilerific trailers wouldn't even BEGIN to give away the story, I feel as if we already know the result here.

Come on, double agent? Could this setup be anymore obvious?!

Which is exactly why I think his daughter is gonna be the new splinter cell. I could totally see them pulling a Raiden on us about an hour or two into the game. There just has to be more to this game than the obvious bullshit.
 
Snaku said:
Which is exactly why I think his daughter is gonna be the new splinter cell. I could totally see them pulling a Raiden on us about an hour or two into the game. There just has to be more to this game than the obvious bullshit.

That might not be such a crazy idea, earlier this year Ubi Soft conducting a poll on their website whether fans would like another playable character to take Sam's shoes or even work alongside him. I also remember reading in EGM from the lead designer of Chaos Theory that they loved the move Kojima did with MGS2 by replacing Snake with a rookie. I don't think they'll do it though, it'd be hilarious if they replace Sam with his teenage daughter. :lol
 
I'm gonna laugh if all these ideas are just dead wrong :lol

the game comes out and you actually do play as a terrorist. I think this entire thing could be badass and it's a needed change from the format of the last 3 games.

As far as the plotlines being boring, has anyone saying that played through Chaos Theory? I'll readily admit that the first two games had simply Clancy plots... but Chaos Theory was a new kind of beast as far as this series goes. Plus it was sooo much better written than the previous two.

As for my comment on Snake... obviously Kojima can tell a story better than damn near anyone in video games. Hell, he even made a game which shows that his ultimate villain is actually one of the most noble guys in the game, as he's the only one actually killing for shit he believes in. But what is Solid Snakes story? He's a genetically engineered soldier. Oooh. I mean I'm the biggest MGS fanboy you'll ever see, but at the end of the day, the fact that Kojima doesn't let us into Snake's actual personal life kind of hinders the amount of affection one can feel towards the character. He's not developed as a 'human', so to speak.

I do know one thing-- you guys should give the people at Ubisoft some credit here. They're not retards... they won't give away the plot through advertising. I mean, if they've done this much to build the story up through ads, give them the benefit of the doubt in that they're still gonna pull some strings in the story. I think they've earned it... unless it's Montreal, in which case I recant everything I've said about this game being awesome.

edit: Anyone here actually read the book? it was written under supervision of ubisoft, too, and I'm telling ya... with the way Sarah's character developed in that book there is no way she'd ever be a field op. MAYBE a desk jockey a la Kim Bauer, but nothing in field work.
 
german opm2 magazine already confirmed, that fisher is a double agent and must flee with another terrorist from the prison. after the first level, the game wants to make the player decisisons, like jack bauer from 24.
 
Heh, another SC thread where MGS is wrongly pulled in but still shines above Spliner Cell. :D

As dark10x said, MGS story lines are extremely difficult to predict. They can go in several different directions at any given time and even if a trailer may seem like it spoiled something huge, it's really just a small hint to much larger things to come.

The plotline to SC4 seems a bit obvious from the information their giving out on the website but I suspect a bait and switch in the progress, especially given the informals polls on ubi's website.
 
ram said:
german opm2 magazine already confirmed, that fisher is a double agent and must flee with another terrorist from the prison. after the first level, the game wants to make the player decisisons, like jack bauer from 24.
fucking germans.... they always have to find a way to piss people off. first nazis, then warm beer, now this? ugh.
 
the other thread just posted a ton of scenes... these aren't concept renders-- they're actual screen shots. :D

Oh yeah, and it's confirmed-- Sarah is dead and it is why Sam left Third Echelon.
 
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