The Lamonster
Member
Holy shit just saw that Super Mario RPG is coming to Japan!
Hopefully it will hit the US soon...
Hopefully it will hit the US soon...
Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
- Thread starter Kobun Heat
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Stop the insanity...
What is curious to me about all the complaining is that there are already hundreds of games already released that are perfectly good to buy.
This is not like Xbox Live where you have to get the newest games right when the come out to get the best Live experience. So what if there isn's a AAA game out this week? Some of these games are decades, decades old! Just because they are released "now" doesn't mean they're any newer than the VC games already released.
Perhaps it's because I have so many other obligations in life, but I haven't even been able to play the games I've downloaded... I have yet to play through Ocarina of Time, Super Metroid, Super Mario 3, Super Mario 2 - The Lost Levels, Gates of Thunder, Lords of Thunder, Phantasy Star 2, Mario 64, F-Zero 64, Star Fox 64, and the list goes on and on... :lol
What is curious to me about all the complaining is that there are already hundreds of games already released that are perfectly good to buy.
This is not like Xbox Live where you have to get the newest games right when the come out to get the best Live experience. So what if there isn's a AAA game out this week? Some of these games are decades, decades old! Just because they are released "now" doesn't mean they're any newer than the VC games already released.
Perhaps it's because I have so many other obligations in life, but I haven't even been able to play the games I've downloaded... I have yet to play through Ocarina of Time, Super Metroid, Super Mario 3, Super Mario 2 - The Lost Levels, Gates of Thunder, Lords of Thunder, Phantasy Star 2, Mario 64, F-Zero 64, Star Fox 64, and the list goes on and on... :lol
Wrong. Here are the two main reasons the GAF aggregate is complaining about the Virtual Console:AugustDivision said:
-Games are rated by the ESRB then sit in limbo for a long time with no release in sight (Ys, Earthbound, SMRPG, Shining Force II, etc, etc). There are tons of games that are ready now, they've gone through the certification, but Nintendo just lets them sit idle because they have this absurd desire to keep weekly releases going as long as possible.
-NOA's handling of the Virtual Console is pitiful, at best. NCL announces releases a month in advance, and has consistently stuck to three games a week since launch. NOA doesn't tell us release dates at all in advance (leaving us wondering what the hell is coming out each week -- that's great marketing!) and has reduced weekly releases to 1-2 games a week. This is hardly conducive to getting people interested in what the Virtual Console has to offer.
Please, stop wasting our time pretending that the majority of the complaints in this thread are anything but reasonable (I can't speak for the people complaining that there isn't a game they like every week, that's tough shit for them).
thaivo said:
It's like NOA PR is posting here with us!
SturokBGD
Member
I'm glad the VC has slowed down with the AAA releases (though it's as plain as the nose on my face that many of the more hysterical complaints come from Nintendo die-hards that want to play the same games they've already played a million times before regardless of the actual game quality), my wife was going to kill me if I used her credit card for one more points purchase.
Unfortunately, we have Wiiware now.
Unfortunately, we have Wiiware now.
evilromero
Member
That still doesn't excuse the lack of San Fransisco Rush, Beetle Adv Racing and Pilotwings.thaivo said:
crowphoenix
Banned
I'd say it more boils down to the fact that most people are waiting on a game and have been for a long time. This comes from the games getting ESRB rated, which causes us to think said game is coming soon, but months later said game is still no where to be seen. It's a frustrating experiance, especially if the game you are waiting for is one that you either never owned or lost.
I'm just paitently waiting on Shining Force 2. It'll come one day. For now, there's little on the VC that I wish to give Nintendo money for.
I'm just paitently waiting on Shining Force 2. It'll come one day. For now, there's little on the VC that I wish to give Nintendo money for.
ding ding ding ding ding.Stumpokapow said:
this is pretty much it. Why doesn't Nintendo release everything they have? Because finding it all and sifting through the shop channel is a fucking chore. The same reason why the top sellers list almost is ALWAYS the same. Sure it's because they are great games, but a lot of that has to do with the fact that those and the new games are really the only easy games to find on the system. As an online retailer, I have generally found that users don't list "all products" unless they are REALLY REALLY trying to find something and having a hard time doing it otherwise. This is why so many retailers for the last couple of years have been plastering recommended products, highlights, sale items, etc all over their sites... Online retailing is 75% search, 20% impulse/easy access, and 5% browsing. With VC I would guess the numbers are closer to 90% impulse/easy access, 6% browsing, and 4% searching/filtering. Pretty crap ass UI that forces people to do stuff in almost the exact opposite way they are used to doing it on every other site.
Fix your UI Nintendo, and put all the titles up and let their own quality speak for themselves.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
There are probably enough games available where Nintendo could release 4-5 a week with at least one great title and still have games left over at the end of the Wii's life. It's pretty ridiculous.
Anyway! Toki Tori WOOOOOO! First non-retail Wii game I've bought since Sin and Punishment. I wonder how long these 800 points will sit on my system...
Anyway! Toki Tori WOOOOOO! First non-retail Wii game I've bought since Sin and Punishment. I wonder how long these 800 points will sit on my system...
BuddhaRockstar
Member
Okay... so Metal Slug.
I want this game, I heard the anthology had some issues, and I'd really rather use a classic controller for it- plus I don't need like 1000 different versions just one to see if I like it or not. Should I pick it up on VC now or should I get it with this SNK bundle coming out soon? Anyone know how much that's going to cost?
I want this game, I heard the anthology had some issues, and I'd really rather use a classic controller for it- plus I don't need like 1000 different versions just one to see if I like it or not. Should I pick it up on VC now or should I get it with this SNK bundle coming out soon? Anyone know how much that's going to cost?
Not unreasonable? When did reason have anything to do with most NeoGaf posts. People on this board really have lost a grip with the reality out there. I actually read this forum almost entirely due to the unreasonableness of the posts. :lol Most should take a step back and see the forest rather than the trees... I think more than a majority of the people who own Wiis are pretty happy with what we've gotten so far... again, perhaps it is just me, but I don't have the money or TIME to get through all the great stuff that has been released thus far.Meloche said:
Kobun Heat
Member
All this complaining isn't about Virtual Console in general: It's about how Americans, for some inexplicable reason, are getting totally dicked. Japan gets four games a week, we get one. That's messed up.
I see your point. Myself, I've been wishing for the Thunderforce series... but I hear that Technosoft folded, and it is unlikely.crowphoenix said:
Thanks, I understand now. I guess complaints are always going to be louder than post by people who are content. Me, I'm loving what I'm getting. Wiiware has a lot of promise, and has already delivered some nice gems. Just wanted to balance out the negativity.Kobun Heat said:
borghe said:
They definately should fix the UI, but I think Nintendo deliberately releases only a few titles each week in the hopes that it would improve VC game sales (like for instance, nobody would buy Street Fighter 2 if both SF2 and SSF2:T were released on the same day, and likewise with the various Gradius/R-Type incarnations). Smart strategy, but it sucks for gamers who have to wait and wait and wait for their favorite classics to appear.
I bought Dr. Mario Online yesterday and bought extra points so I wouldn't have to enter credit card information over and over, and... I kind of liked what I saw. Yeah, you won't get Square-Enix games, and Nintendo will forever be the nemesis of good marketing decisions, but the other systems and developers actually have a lot of good games. Especially Genesis. Still need PS4 and SF2, but very nice, all in all.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Kobun Heat said:
This is on point.
Kobun Heat
Member
Maybe Nintendo is really shooting for an authentic recreation of the silver-age gaming experience, where Japan gets a flood of amazing games and America gets a quarter of them a year later.PepsimanVsJoe said:
"Yo, did you see the new GameFan? There's a Super Mario FOUR in Japan."
"SHUT UP I AM PLAYING POGS"
The majority of posts in this thread are by a small group of regulars, and most of the complaints are in the vein of what I posted above. Expecting more than a game a week for the VC in NA when NOE/NCL continue to do so is not unreasonable. I wouldn't say expecting games that have been rated by the ESRB to come out eventually to be all that unreasonable a demand either.thaivo said:
As as for your comment about the majority of Wii owners -- I doubt the majority of Wii owners have even downloaded a game from the Virtual Console in the first place, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I understand the money/time thing, but that doesn't suddenly redeem the lackluster Virtual Console release schedule. I may not buy another Wii retail game this year because I'm still content playing Brawl, Mario Kart, and replaying games I currently own. Does that mean that Nintendo shouldn't bother releasing anymore disk games this year? No...
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Pellham said:
Again, I have a reasonable confidence based on the overwhelming success of the model in iTunes and Amazon that they could improve VC game sales by UI changes alone.
It's true that SF2 would not sell if SF2T and SSF2T were both on the service, but this is an exceptional minority case and if the entire business model is being justified by the potential double-dipping of a very small minority of customers, I think that's pretty sad.
1. Game of the week.
2. If you liked this game, you'll like this game.
3. Customers who bought this game, bought this other game.
4. Buy this game in a pack with its sequel for a slight discount.
5. Customer ratings.
This would essentially put Nintendo on par with Amazon from ~1998 or so. Adding things like full sets of individual recommendations based on compound purchases and item views and stuff would be even better, but I think that first basic set would be more than enough.
The Lamonster
Member
Has anyone heard anything about a US release?gwiz210 said:
Like I said above, Chris cleared up my confusion. Sorry for if I didn't address the main issue at hand. I just wanted to say that things aren't all that bad. In actuality, we have it pretty good... look at Live and PSN, in comparison (excepting Ikaruga, Rez, which were great additions).Meloche said:
Ultimately, it's not like NOA is averse to money or something. I'm certain releases will get better in time.
Conrad Link
Member
Maybe its Americans bitching about having no space on their Wii most of all so they only get 1 VC game a week?
I'm not American but I use an American Wii, maybe we should stop doing that? :lol
Anyway as far as the general VC bitching is concerned, its been like this forever on GAF, it seems to some people here the VC is only as good as the current status of any particular dream game they have on their brain.
They'll pine over said game until Nintendo releases it and every week despite the real quality (or not) of games released if its not THAT one they pine for its 'another shit week' and another excuse to say "How longs it been since a f**king decent game has come out on VC?!?" "VC IS DEAD!" etc. Completely dismissing the other good games because its not THAT game they really wanted! /sadface
When/if that ever comes out, they might even download... probably wont actually play it though because by that time gotta move onto complaining about the next game that isn't out yet (and how its all Nintendo's fault) so they can repeat the bitching cycle.
I'm not American but I use an American Wii, maybe we should stop doing that? :lol
Anyway as far as the general VC bitching is concerned, its been like this forever on GAF, it seems to some people here the VC is only as good as the current status of any particular dream game they have on their brain.
They'll pine over said game until Nintendo releases it and every week despite the real quality (or not) of games released if its not THAT one they pine for its 'another shit week' and another excuse to say "How longs it been since a f**king decent game has come out on VC?!?" "VC IS DEAD!" etc. Completely dismissing the other good games because its not THAT game they really wanted! /sadface
When/if that ever comes out, they might even download... probably wont actually play it though because by that time gotta move onto complaining about the next game that isn't out yet (and how its all Nintendo's fault) so they can repeat the bitching cycle.
agreed. this year so far we have hadthaivo said:
Lolo2
Ninja Gaiden III
RCR
Double Dragon
Harvest Moon
Super Turrican
DoReMi
Pokemon Puzzle League
Wonder Boy
Fantasy Zone
PS2
PS3
Mega Turrican
PuyoPuyo2
Lords of Thunder
Metal Slug
I mean to be perfectly honest, that's not a shabby list AT ALL. It destroys the XBLA and PSN lists for this year so far, and that includes leaving off a number of games that are anywhere from crap to not so great.
BUT, the fact that weeks like this week (Ninja Combat) exist at ALL is a shame given the service's potential. And WiiWare should NOT be taken into account. Nintendo is marketing them as two separate services, they should be treating them as two separate services. Heck, they aren't even really targeting the same demos. There is no reason that just because WiiWare gets a good or great game in one week, that VC should be dumped with absolute crap, or vice versa.
thaivo said:
I don't get your logic. "A new game" is contextual. For VC, "a new game" is a old retail game. VC followers will want new games on VC just like the people following the retail releases for Wii.
Is there no need for new Wii games each week because someone that would buy one now is already having hundreds of titles at his disposal? :lol
What my main point was that it isn't like Xbox Live, where people play new games when they come out, and then don't play them at all after a few weeks due to the online component (i.e., online community aspect). I'm also saying that the games released each week on the VC are not any "newer" than those that were available previously. This cannot be said of commercial Wii releases.Ranger X said:
If you filter all the games that were Japan exclusive out of Japan's lineup I'm pretty sure you would start to see a similar release schedule. The question is: Where are the western devs that would bridge that gap? Are they onboard and waiting? Are they negotiating? Are they just turning their nose up at VC? What is it?
thaivo said:
Maybe you didn't get me. Take myself as an example. I'm there since the Wii launch. What's interesting to me isn't the games that are available already but the new ones coming out. Old games matter mostly to new Wii customers.
Now the same logic applies with the VC. I'm there since the beginning, i know all that is in there i have bought what i had to buy. What interests me isn't the game that are already there but new ones coming out. It's the same damn logic as the retail Wii games see?
So, if there would be a drought of retail Wii game releases, i would complain just like when there's a drought of VC game releases. Same logic.
Petrae
Member
Kobun Heat said:
To think... I'd almost forgotten about POGS. I'm still laughing... thanks.
I, too, join the ranks of the disappointed folks within this thread. I don't think that this year's been a total waste-- not by a long shot-- but there's still so much unrealized potential, in terms of what we could see for the service.
I'm hoping that, as the WiiWare "newness" factor gradually wanes, we'll see a better balance between WiiWare and VC releases.
evilromero
Member
After experiencing what WiiWare has to offer I'm back on VC high alert. With all the NeoGeo games we've yet to see how could we get Ninja Combat without some quality to wash the bitter taste out? AoF2, SS, FF2? Any of these would have sufficed.
If we're using subjective measurements, I'd argue more people are like me, and haven't bought everything that they're interested in, and actually haven't even been able to play through the games that they already have.Ranger X said:
Hey, I'm not saying it's a great thing that the only game out this week is Ninja Combat. Nor do I think you are wrong to say that one game a week is a weak effort. I think Nintendo has a lot better games to release, and it would be great if they released then 4 at a time like in Japan. But perhaps, there is a reason for it beyond what we know (i.e., licensing matters may be easier in Japan, working with IP owners easier, etc.).
I'm going to start to sound like a broken record, but I just think things are better on the Wii front than I had dreamt possible prior to release, and really can't bring myself to complain much. Of course, that's just me.
JonathanEx
Member
Huh, sacrificing the size of the library due to the navigation of the service being sub-par... that doesn't sound familiar at all, does it Microsoft?Stumpokapow said:
Seriously when will they realise that the Wii Shop Channel as it is actually is harming more than helping, and it seems the majority of the sales are from those 'in the know' already.
evilromero
Member
I would love for both FF2 and AoF2 to his VC soon but the rate of release suggests these are a ways off.Capndrake said:
thaivo said:
I'm overall satisfied of my Wii too. It's just that when you start looking at what's really going on with the VC you're really wondering the hell Nintendo is doing. If we didn't know all those games available, already rated, or if we didn't even know wich publisher is signed on the service, we wouldn't be able to judge if Nintendo is doing good or not with the releases. I think they miss some basics. It shouldn't be. As a clear whinner in this thread, i concider myself realistic and not exigent. I only ask for at least A CHOICE wich means a minimum of two games. And whatever the way we look at the VC, they CAN put up 2 games a week for 5 years and this without even adding any new publishers than what they have now.
Iam Canadian
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I'm actually really happy about Toki Tori, but this is a pretty disappointing week overall. I should just stop getting my hopes up for Earthbound or SMRPG, because it's just not going to happen whenever I do.
Like most of the other rational people in this thread, I didn't and still don't expect Nintendo to dump their entire catalogue onto the VC at once. I also don't deny that we have been getting excellent VC games on occasion, such as Super Turrican, Lords of Thunder, and Adventures of Lolo 2. But the lack of choice in the VC is just absurd, and slows down the pace of good games coming out far too much. When the weeks had three or even four games, I didn't mind shovelware, because it got the crap games out of the way. But it's just unacceptable when we're getting nothing but shovelware for weeks at a time, punctuated by the occasional game that's actually worth playing.
You know, if there wasn't a backlog of games we know are ready for release, I wouldn't complain nearly as much. But there are games that have been rated by the ESRB for a while that haven't been released, like Ys, Shining Force 2, Super Mario RPG, and my beloved Earthbound. Meanwhile, there are games like Vectorman and Mega Man on the European VC that haven't come out here yet. And yet we get Ninja Combat.
Oh, yes. Whoever thought that finite continues would be a good idea in a Ninja Gaiden game was truly a fiendish person.
Like most of the other rational people in this thread, I didn't and still don't expect Nintendo to dump their entire catalogue onto the VC at once. I also don't deny that we have been getting excellent VC games on occasion, such as Super Turrican, Lords of Thunder, and Adventures of Lolo 2. But the lack of choice in the VC is just absurd, and slows down the pace of good games coming out far too much. When the weeks had three or even four games, I didn't mind shovelware, because it got the crap games out of the way. But it's just unacceptable when we're getting nothing but shovelware for weeks at a time, punctuated by the occasional game that's actually worth playing.
You know, if there wasn't a backlog of games we know are ready for release, I wouldn't complain nearly as much. But there are games that have been rated by the ESRB for a while that haven't been released, like Ys, Shining Force 2, Super Mario RPG, and my beloved Earthbound. Meanwhile, there are games like Vectorman and Mega Man on the European VC that haven't come out here yet. And yet we get Ninja Combat.
Cyan said:
Oh, yes. Whoever thought that finite continues would be a good idea in a Ninja Gaiden game was truly a fiendish person.
devildog820
Member
Five a week, spread across different systems. I bet that would be a good model. Then provide a way for people to access the great stuff or a way to find hidden gems...
Cyan said:
You know what has been great about VC is that I've come to realize that some games have stood the test of time very well... ESPECIALLY 2D games. It's a sad fact that I've put more hours into SM3 than Super Mario Galaxy.... A good game is a good game. : )
I agree. They really could put up 5 or more games up at once and still have a steady flow for quite a few years. Although, I'm not sure those all would be so great, and of course the spectre of licensing comes into the mix. Maybe Nintendo is following Sony's game plan and plans for the Wii to outlast the PS3... lol.. At the rate that the Wii is going, and the success Nintendo has had recently, it's hard for me to question their judgment.Ranger X said:
Lost Fragment
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I like Ninja Gaiden 3's difficulty, but then again, I've owned the original Ninja Gaiden for near 20 years now, and I can beat it without dying most of the time. Still a great game for general old-school gamers though, ignoring its unnecessary ruthlessness.
I'd like to echo the shouts of "the actual releases over 2008 have been good, but there haven't been enough of them!" Granted, there is little chance I'd buy more VC games if they were releasing more, but it would be nice to see some more activity on the VC side of the Shop Channel.
What big Nintendo games are we still waiting for, anyway? Just Earthbound, Yoshi's Island, the SNES Kirby game, and Majora's Mask, right? Am I missing much? Nintendo given us most of their big name stuff already... I can see them spacing the rest out over the next year or two. Super Punch-Out!! in 2009?
The third party stuff is a bit of a mystery, but it's NOA that's actually pushing it (or so we've been told)... I would like it if we got MSX or C64 stuff in the USA as well, but that might be hoping for far too much.
What big Nintendo games are we still waiting for, anyway? Just Earthbound, Yoshi's Island, the SNES Kirby game, and Majora's Mask, right? Am I missing much? Nintendo given us most of their big name stuff already... I can see them spacing the rest out over the next year or two. Super Punch-Out!! in 2009?
The third party stuff is a bit of a mystery, but it's NOA that's actually pushing it (or so we've been told)... I would like it if we got MSX or C64 stuff in the USA as well, but that might be hoping for far too much.
sevenchaos
Banned
Maybe there'll be a flood of VC games once the HD is released.
I found two new regions for the shop. 'T' is South Korea and there's another 'Q' which I'm not sure about (all I've found there so far is a dithered image of Super Mario World). Any ideas?
Also, I noticed that Wiiware actually has a sort of system with the codes. Many but not all of the codes are actually a two letter short hand for the title which should make them a little easier to find.
edit: It would seem 'Q' is Japanese -> South Korea Games and 'T' is US -> South Korea Games.
Also, I noticed that Wiiware actually has a sort of system with the codes. Many but not all of the codes are actually a two letter short hand for the title which should make them a little easier to find.
edit: It would seem 'Q' is Japanese -> South Korea Games and 'T' is US -> South Korea Games.
Well, since they released Toki Tori, AKA Best Game on WiiWare Fact (at least until Gyrostarr, Bomberman, Shantae, and World of Goo, although even those four might not be able to win out), I fulfilled my promise and took my half-day off from complaints. (Which oh so coincidentally is the half of my day that I can't be around GAF anyway. ) That means now it's time to blitz this thread. (Flipping heck, it's times like this I almost wish I had the resilience to be a joke poster instead of seriously addressing every argument. ;_
But it's not just about me. If they released two games that I'm not likely to buy, such as [random NES shovelware] and Gradius II, or [Genesis shovelware] and Cho Aniki, or [TG16 shovelware] and Samurai Shodown, or [SNES shovelware] and Mega Man, I would say: okay, fine. Even though I wouldn't be a buyer, I could at least stand back and say, sure, maybe they're not catering to me, but they did release two games and they did release something quality or something that the public wants--just as it went with the week of Pokemon Puzzle League.
) That means now it's time to blitz this thread. (Flipping heck, it's times like this I almost wish I had the resilience to be a joke poster instead of seriously addressing every argument. ;_That's not true. I want them to do a faster release schedule and run out of games faster, since they're going to run out of titles sooner or later. It's literally an inevitability that the day will come when they have to stop putting up games on a weekly basis, but I want to be enjoying more content in the meantime rather than watching them stretch out the facade that VC will continue into perpetuity.AugustDivision said:
Hundreds? As in, two hundred or more? No there aren't, unless your username is MiketheBSG. Even for a dedicated VC buyer like me who has 54 games and has loved this service very much, I don't believe I could find a way to breach the 100 mark if I exclusively bought games that I believe I'd even moderately enjoy.thaivo said:
Nah, that's only a small part of it. Yes, I do want Shining Force II, Final Soldier, Star Parodier, Gley Lancer, Ys Book I & II, Earthbound, and Dragon Slayer (and Super Mario RPG, but that's not even out in Japan yet). And yes, I think there's no excuse for missing out on some of these games that have already been released in other regions, like those two Star Soldier games and Gley Lancer.crowphoenix said:
But it's not just about me. If they released two games that I'm not likely to buy, such as [random NES shovelware] and Gradius II, or [Genesis shovelware] and Cho Aniki, or [TG16 shovelware] and Samurai Shodown, or [SNES shovelware] and Mega Man, I would say: okay, fine. Even though I wouldn't be a buyer, I could at least stand back and say, sure, maybe they're not catering to me, but they did release two games and they did release something quality or something that the public wants--just as it went with the week of Pokemon Puzzle League.
Care to single out some of the posts demonstrating this phenomenon? I'm not fond of slinging blanket accusations from a distance.thaivo said:
With the VC tie ratio continually hovering around 0.5, "a majority of the people who own Wiis" haven't even bought a VC game.thaivo said:
Those are pretty significant outliers to be using to support an argument. I do agree that what you're saying probably is what Nintendo is trying to do, but I doubt it's purely for reason that superior versions of the same game will be released. And, as has been said however many times, this is currently unique to Nintendo of America. In Japan they don't seem to take issue with the idea of consistently releasing three games per week, which just makes this situation all the more baffling.Pellham said:
Sucks for Nintendo too since inflation is only going to continue eating away at the value of each purchase of Wii points, however slightly.Pellham said:
I'd go a step further than "good" and say that VC has an awesome library. Most (if not all) complaints in here are rooted in the idea that it could very, very easily be made even better. -_-cpro said:
Yes, it has many more releases than the other two systems; that's great. That's wonderful, no sarcasm. But--well, as I was just saying, it could be improved pretty easily even if they only drew upon games that have already been released in other regions, hence all the criticism. Also, I'm not sure sure why anyone would be certain that releases will get better in time, since so far they've exclusively gotten worse with time.thaivo said:
Dream games? Not quite. Most people in here are asking for realistic games such as Nintendo first-party titles that require no negotiation, or titles which were ESRB-rated and should theoretically be undergoing testing (since getting rated is not a free ordeal). People aren't claiming that VC fails because the only translated version of Tactics Ogre is on PS1, nor do I see anybody boycotting because that blasted Capcom won't negotiate the rights to put up Duck Tales and Duck Tales 2.Conrad Link said:
I agree that neither are likely to happen, if that's what you're implying. ;_;sevenchaos said: