pizzapizza64
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bridegur said:
What would we talk about without it?!
Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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What would we talk about without it?!
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elbkhm said:
I wouldn't count on it unless Nintendo managed to work out those legal issues JSnake alluded to a few pages back.
Unless Earthbound joins the ranks of Mega Man and Vectorman and becomes one of those European exclusive games, which would just depress me.
So I have a pretty big problem I'm hoping someone knows a way I can fix it. My Wii recently quit reading all games and I had to get it replaced. I had a 1 year warranty through GameStop and got it replaced that way. Of course VC games are linked to the system not the account. I called Nintendo and they said it's in the EULA at the beginning when accessing the shop. Does anyone know of a way I can possibly get these games onto my new system...sounds like Nintendo is saying no, but didnt know if someone heard of them helping people out in this situation before. I had over 30 VC games and that'd suck ass to lose them all =(
Cosmonaut X
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Somnia said:
Um, you might be out of luck. You can try contacting Nintendo and explaining the situation, but I think the only known way for Wii content (VC games, saves, Miis etc.) to be transferred to a new system is if you send it to Nintendo themselves...
TwinIonEngines said:
Ya I did that...the guy sounded like an idiot who had no sleep and just kept throwing the EULA thing in my face. I just e-mailed their support explaining how unhappy I was over the situation and how I've been buying Nintendo products since the original NES and would hate to have them lose my business because of this problem. We'll see
Somnia said:
When my Wii was stolen, I was told that they could transfer them over if you could give them the serial number of the missing system. The serial number which is, of course, only printed on the Wii itself.
If you had the foresightedness to jot it down before trade-in, you should be okay. If not, I guess you're as screwed as I am unless you're better at haranguing than me (which is pretty likely, I'm too meek and English about things
nincompoop
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The serial number is also printed on the box that came with the system. So unless you got rid of the box (bad idea regardless) or the box was also stolen then you should be okay.mclem said:When my Wii was stolen, I was told that they could transfer them over if you could give them the serial number of the missing system. The serial number which is, of course, only printed on the Wii itself.
If you had the foresightedness to jot it down before trade-in, you should be okay. If not, I guess you're as screwed as I am unless you're better at haranguing than me (which is pretty likely, I'm too meek and English about things
This thread has proven why Nintendo needs to make it more clear to people that they automatically have a 1-year warranty with Nintendo itself (which would have allowed keeping VC games), plus three months if they register on MyNintendo, and don't have to pay for the plans of retail stores. 
...Well, unless people wanted warranties lasting longer than fifteen months, but even then they wouldn't be keeping save data or VC/WiiWare downloads if they replaced through a store.
...Well, unless people wanted warranties lasting longer than fifteen months, but even then they wouldn't be keeping save data or VC/WiiWare downloads if they replaced through a store.
Eh, I'd usually defend not criticize a two-game week if the two games were imports, but... Dig Dug has been released approximately eighty-nine point one times in NA, albeit not this specific version, so there's nothing terribly special about it that needs to be spotlighted. :/ Now, if it had been Final Soldier, Star Parodier, Gley Lancer, or Super Fantasy Zone, that would be another thing!
actually I'm fairly sure it's not. Nintendo hasn't had the serial number printed on the box since the N64 IIRC. It's always been you scan the serial through the opening in the box that has the serial on it. I'm not 100% positive about Wii, but DS, Gamecube, N64, etc I am positive on.nincompoop said:
This is a tough call. On the one hand, the STORES should be letting people know that this is NOT a manufacturers warranty, and that by taking part in this warranty you are possibly (re: probably) giving up some or many rights you would normally get under the manufacturers warranty.Jiggy37 said:This thread has proven why Nintendo needs to make it more clear to people that they automatically have a 1-year warranty with Nintendo itself (which would have allowed keeping VC games), plus three months if they register on MyNintendo, and don't have to pay for the plans of retail stores.
...Well, unless people wanted warranties lasting longer than fifteen months, but even then they wouldn't be keeping save data or VC/WiiWare downloads if they replaced through a store.
On the other hand, the stores have NO incentive to do that, especially where they make a ton of money off of those warranties, and the stores would probably be none to happy if the manufacturers started a campaign saying what I just typed above.
Basically it's up to us to be educated consumers. And as an educated consumer you need to remember that any time you are talking about a device which stores personal and specific information about the user (such as purchases), it is almost always required to go through the manufacturer to keep those purchases on whatever repair or replacement you get.
nincompoop
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You're wrong. Did you think I would've posted that without checking first?borghe said:
On topic: With Upa released, lets hope Konami follows up with Rainbow Bell Adventures. Its a SNES platformer starring Twinbee, and it has blast processing!!!1
Cheesemeister
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nincompoop said:
Come, now. You and I both know that the Genesis had blast processing and the SNES didn't.
Dr. Zoidberg
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You guys do realize that if they ever come out with an external HDD that it will likely be proprietary and expensive, right? I suppose it's possible that they'd allow 3rd Party drives but if that was the case then they'd just let us use the SD cards for space. I'm guessing it will be proprietary and locked up tighter than a drum due to thier piracy fears. By the time they buy the drives, alter and repackage them, add some profit for them, then profit for the retailer and distributor, it will seem expensive. Then we'll have to listen to endless bitching about how you could buy the same size raw drive from Newegg for a lot less money and how people really need the space but refuse to pay those outlandish prices, etc.etc. We'll see.
Anyway. Upa looks pretty cool. I love a good platformer and I'd much rather pay $6 for one I've never played before than $5 to play something again that I'm already familiar with.
Anyway. Upa looks pretty cool. I love a good platformer and I'd much rather pay $6 for one I've never played before than $5 to play something again that I'm already familiar with.
like I said, I was fairly certain, though obviously wrong. I guess I didn't pay attention to Nintendo stopping that (though that being said I'm taking your guys word for it and STILL haven't checked my Wii or DS boxes).
Still, it goes back to what jiggy was mentioning and me to a lesser degree. In this day and age of consoles especially, replacing your console at the store can be a risky proposition:
Wii: you can lose access to your WiiWare and VC games
PS3: You can lose access to your SingStar songs and potentially other console locked information
360: It is possible for you to lose access to certain saves especially if restoring your gamertag ends up screwing up any of the copied game saves, NOT TO MENTION until the rumored mod comes out you will always be required to be connected to the internet to use any of your DLC/XBLA games on the new console.
To me, all of that is worth spending the 2-3 weeks sending your console in on it's already included 1-3 year warranty from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft.
Still, it goes back to what jiggy was mentioning and me to a lesser degree. In this day and age of consoles especially, replacing your console at the store can be a risky proposition:
Wii: you can lose access to your WiiWare and VC games
PS3: You can lose access to your SingStar songs and potentially other console locked information
360: It is possible for you to lose access to certain saves especially if restoring your gamertag ends up screwing up any of the copied game saves, NOT TO MENTION until the rumored mod comes out you will always be required to be connected to the internet to use any of your DLC/XBLA games on the new console.
To me, all of that is worth spending the 2-3 weeks sending your console in on it's already included 1-3 year warranty from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft.
Agent Unknown
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dp, sorry
Agent Unknown
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In another aspect of the storage issue and idiocy on Nintendo's side, look at the juvenile way they handle the saves for Brawl and Kart. If I could copy them to my SD card, I'd easily have enough space to buy at least two more Wiiware games! But no, family minded Nintendo has gotta nip it in the bud since they apparently think there's a huge community of smart alecky Brawl and Kart players who refuse to unlock anything in their games or, er.....the burgeoning group of Star Soldier R score upload cheaters? Why couldn't they have made the online partitions for the files separate?
Oh, and I'd like to take my 360 hard drive and repeatedly smack Laurent Fischer in the face with it. Yeah, "only geeks and fringe customers" want competent media storage on their 360s, PS3s, or would also want extra storage for all their cameras, cell phones, ect. What an idiot. Has EGM or any of the U.S. press hounded them on this? I'd love to see Shoe tear into Reggie about this. Anyways, the USB device/s news blurb is midly encouraging. And I don't see how Guitar Hero IV Wii can have viable DLC without a solution on the horizon (unless that's one case where they'd be willing to open up the SD port).
Anyways, I never expected VC to be a replacement for my collection. But Nintendo's stubborness, incompetence and diehard willingness to either steadfastly ignore or talk down to their customers as a business is always infuriating. Oh well, more time for me to get 8 stars on my Lost Levels title screen. I even bought a sweet SMB2J mini guide from jap-sai.com (complete with NP style maps, very helpful on the maze castles) in order to help me (besides the 100 1up trick, ahem) in my quest for worlds A-D.
Speaking of which, can anyone tell me if once you unlock worlds A-D, do you only get to play them through once (like world 9) or are they always acessible from the title screen as long as you don't lose your save state?
I'll probably get Upa, looks like a lot of fun and plenty quirky. Surely don't need Dig Dug (an extra Konami import to go alongside Upa like Gradius 2 would've been much better) though since even though it's one of my faves, I already have Dig Dug 1 and 2 (one of the most innovative arcade sequels ever) on my PSP Namco collection and Dig Dug DS. Oh and for XBLA (couldn't resist having the marquee art displayed on my plasma)
Oh, and I'd like to take my 360 hard drive and repeatedly smack Laurent Fischer in the face with it. Yeah, "only geeks and fringe customers" want competent media storage on their 360s, PS3s, or would also want extra storage for all their cameras, cell phones, ect. What an idiot. Has EGM or any of the U.S. press hounded them on this? I'd love to see Shoe tear into Reggie about this. Anyways, the USB device/s news blurb is midly encouraging. And I don't see how Guitar Hero IV Wii can have viable DLC without a solution on the horizon (unless that's one case where they'd be willing to open up the SD port).
Anyways, I never expected VC to be a replacement for my collection. But Nintendo's stubborness, incompetence and diehard willingness to either steadfastly ignore or talk down to their customers as a business is always infuriating. Oh well, more time for me to get 8 stars on my Lost Levels title screen. I even bought a sweet SMB2J mini guide from jap-sai.com (complete with NP style maps, very helpful on the maze castles) in order to help me (besides the 100 1up trick, ahem) in my quest for worlds A-D.
Speaking of which, can anyone tell me if once you unlock worlds A-D, do you only get to play them through once (like world 9) or are they always acessible from the title screen as long as you don't lose your save state?
I'll probably get Upa, looks like a lot of fun and plenty quirky. Surely don't need Dig Dug (an extra Konami import to go alongside Upa like Gradius 2 would've been much better) though since even though it's one of my faves, I already have Dig Dug 1 and 2 (one of the most innovative arcade sequels ever) on my PSP Namco collection and Dig Dug DS. Oh and for XBLA (couldn't resist having the marquee art displayed on my plasma)
Just a quick update...a NOA rep. called my house this morning...and they took care of everything for me as a one time only thing. Normally they aren't allowed to transfer accounts due to licensing issues or some such, but ya. I really feel like they went out of their way to help me after just sending one e-mail by calling ME and I did not have to call them.
Agent Unknown
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What on earth would "licencing issues" have to do with someone being able to keep/redownload all the games they bought which is supposed to be Nintendo's policy anyways? Sounds like customer service nonsense and I'm sure they'll do it for any customer who like you, insists they be able to keep the games they purchased. Guess this is what we get when companies trade physical media for the self serving convenience of the digital age. Good to hear they eventually came through for you though.
Stumpokapow
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Man God said:
Someone without scruples can do that right now with substantially less effort than calling Nintendo would take.
Cheesemeister
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Japanese accounting practices require that balance sheets come out correctly, down to the exact yen. No fudging numbers. When providing replacement copies of these games, I'm sure Nintendo still has to pay out the applicable royalties to the 3rd parties.
Stumpokapow said:
True but trying to cut down on various underhanded schemes is always a good idea.
DRM is tricky business, it's hard to make games
A. Workable online or off
B. Hard to Copy to another machine
C. Easy to recover
D. Quick to recover
Nintendo's isn't bad but it's not perfect either.
Stumpokapow
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Cheesemeister said:
This wouldn't be an issue if the whole thing were properly tied to a MyNintendo account or whatever to begin with so that the initial sale was categorized as a sale of the licence to download to the user.
beelzebozo
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you guys should check out the firemen.
here's a video to whet your appetite
only released in europe, but i found a copy at a local used game store, oddly enough. carts look to run around 30 bucks used online though :/
here's a video to whet your appetite
only released in europe, but i found a copy at a local used game store, oddly enough. carts look to run around 30 bucks used online though :/
A Black Falcon
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I just keep doing the same thing I've been doing for several years now, regularly buying old cartridges.
For instance, just yesterday I got:
Xexyz - NES
Mick & Mack as The Global Gladiators - Genesis
The Red Star - PS2
Batman - NES
Doom - SNES
Test Drive 6 - Dreamcast
...$25 total including tax, but The Red Star was $8.50. The lower three were $10 total.
But I buy lots of old games... other stuff I've bought within the last few weeks includes Super Adventure Island (SNES), Tiger-Heli (NES), D/Generation for the PC ($1, for such a great game!), free copies of four N64 sports games (stuff I'd never have paid for, but for free, why not?), Bio-Hazard Battle for Genesis ($3)... I'd rather buy the actual old stuff. It's cheaper, too.
For instance, just yesterday I got:
Xexyz - NES
Mick & Mack as The Global Gladiators - Genesis
The Red Star - PS2
Batman - NES
Doom - SNES
Test Drive 6 - Dreamcast
...$25 total including tax, but The Red Star was $8.50. The lower three were $10 total.
But I buy lots of old games... other stuff I've bought within the last few weeks includes Super Adventure Island (SNES), Tiger-Heli (NES), D/Generation for the PC ($1, for such a great game!), free copies of four N64 sports games (stuff I'd never have paid for, but for free, why not?), Bio-Hazard Battle for Genesis ($3)... I'd rather buy the actual old stuff. It's cheaper, too.
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Jiggy37 said:Even seeing Demon's Crest mentioned makes me sad that at our current rate it would be like four years before we see it on VC.
Yes, Demon's Crest is an awesome game and I'd love to see it on the VC. It actually reminds me quite a bit of Mega Man ZX, so fans of that should enjoy Demon's Crest. And even one such as myself, who likes Mega Man ZX but considers it a step backward in the franchise can enjoy it. It's just too bad that Capcom's VC support is so lacking outside of the Street Fighter and Ghosts 'n Goblins franchises.
Cosmonaut X
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Capndrake said:
Hm. Great week for the VC, but disappointing that no new WiiWare games are showing up. It's also pretty damn obvious now that only the US is really getting the shaft on VC releases, but I still don't see why.
Cosmonaut X said:
Japan always had a pool of exclusives to draw from but now Europe has Commodore 64 games that are for the time being exclusive to Europe. If they can't secure those here then we simply get less.
If you look at it from the other side the US has the most and best Wiiware and will probably continue to. So we aren't totally getting left behind.
m3k said:
Yeah the skull boss is hard. But it's all about learning his movement and anticipating it. I've finished Equinox some years ago and let me tell you that some jumps and puzzle in the last 2 dungeons or so are VERY hard.
I hope you can fall on a copy this will never be released on the VC and it's so great!