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Official Doctor Who Series 1, 5, 31, or Fnarg Thread of Moffat & Smith

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forgeforsaken

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WanderingWind said:
Okay, Martha. Good bye. GTFO. Stop looking back.

EDIT: So, what I'm hearing is to just stop watching now? K.
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No, at least watch Silence in the Library/Forrest of the Dead.
That's a fairly good two parter that introduces River Song, who is awesome.
 
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Raxus

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Blader5489 said:
I would recommend just outright skipping The Sontaran Strategem, The Poison Sky, and The Doctor's Daughter. They really just aren't good at all, and there's only one bit of info you need to take away from them:

After S3, Martha is recruited by the govt. because of her alien knowhow.
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On the spoiler,

Really her and Mickey wind up together so you can tell the writers had no idea what the fuck to do with her
Also, skip the Doctor's Daughter at all costs. It might as well have been a pilot for a failed spin off show.
 
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Keyser Soze

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If you have came this far, then just watch everything. Skipping stuff cheapens things anyway. There is no episode outright as bad as the one you just watched over the course of season 4 (or the 2009 specials) so just watch them all if you have the time

Also, there is a Christmas special (Voyage of the Dammed) and a Children in Need mini-episode to watch befire you go onto season 4. Do not forgot those
 
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WanderingWind

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Keyser Soze said:
If you have came this far, then just watch everything. Skipping stuff cheapens things anyway. There is no episode outright as bad as the one you just watched over the course of season 4 (or the 2009 specials) so just watch them all if you have the time

Also, there is a Christmas special (Voyage of the Dammed) and a Children in Need mini-episode to watch befire you go onto season 4. Do not forgot those
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Yeah, I'm going to watch it. Just not tonight. Seriously, as good as Blink was the Last of the Time Lords was equal in it's terribleness.

Also, I have to say, I liked Eccleston a bit more than Tennant, though some of the stories with Tennant have been a bit better. Eccleston's run has my favorite 3 episodes overall too. Dalek/ The Empty Child 2 parter.
 
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Keyser Soze

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DrForester said:
WW shoudl just watch this now, to feel better. It's only 10 minutes.
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Yeah, and it is next in the running order anyway

"Last of the Time Lords" (you just watched this!
I'm sorry, so sorry
)
"Time Crash"
"Voyage of the Damned"
"Partners in Crime" (Series 4 Premier)
 
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WanderingWind

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Keyser Soze said:
If you have came this far, then just watch everything. Skipping stuff cheapens things anyway. There is no episode outright as bad as the one you just watched over the course of season 4 (or the 2009 specials) so just watch them all if you have the time

Also, there is a Christmas special (Voyage of the Dammed) and a Children in Need mini-episode to watch befire you go onto season 4. Do not forgot those
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Watching as a night cap. Who is that?

EDIT: Oh, he's the Doctor with the bouncy tits gif lady.
 
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iamblades

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Yeah, definitely watch season 4.

I don't think any of the S4 stuff is as terrible as what you've just watched, and some stuff happens later in the season that you may like given what you've said about the stuff you've watched so far.

And S5 is much much better than S3-4 overall. It's right up there with S1-2 again, for the most part.
 
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Lard

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Blader5489 said:
I would recommend just outright skipping The Sontaran Strategem, The Poison Sky, and The Doctor's Daughter. They really just aren't good at all, and there's only one bit of info you need to take away from them:
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You've watched everything else - and Season 1 is about the same quality or slightly worse than season 4, so just slog through it.

Fact - no matter what anyone says, Donna is nowhere near as annoying as Rose.
 
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Keyser Soze

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Lard said:
You've watched everything else - and Season 1 is about the same quality or slightly worse than season 4, so just slog through it.

Fact - no matter what anyone says, Donna is nowhere near as annoying as Rose.
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Well, at least Piper is kinda hot sometimes - when her face is not in a constant state of flux
 
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Mr. Sam

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Count me in as a member of the Donna Defense Force. Once I got over my hate of Catherine Tate and her crappy sketch show, I grew to quite like her. More than Martha at least.
 
The Elite

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Wow. I didn't realize how many of you hated Season 4. It really isn't that bad. I even like Voyage of the Damned. Count me as one of those who hated the idea of Donna being a companion but grew to love her by the end of the season. Once you get past that first episode with the stupid fat monsters it really isn't that bad.
 
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Sage00

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S4 is definitely much better than S3. S3 was a long list of crap which just happened to have the best 3-4 ep run in the series as a reprieve. S4 has a decent mix of good and mediocre episodes through the whole series. The Sontaran Stratagem 2 parter at least introduces a good amount of backstory to some characters and organisations while Daleks in Manhattan was nothing but a waste of 2 hours.
 
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wind_steaker said:
The constant attempts to kill Jack were fun
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Man, they really got brutal with that. We'd seen him survive things like gunshots and falls from great heights, but
blowing the hell up into a thousand pieces and being encased in a room-sized cement block
!?
WanderingWind said:
Unless I missed something, he never beat her. And she was really into his killing last episode. She seemed to get off on it.
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I haven't seen it since it first aired, but I seem to recall some prominent bruising that made the implication.
Blader5489 said:
Season 5 is so far and away the best it may as well be a different show.
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I've meant to ask this among the people more familiar with the goings-on of the old show, but was there ever another such point of concentrated change all at once? Not counting the TV movie or Eccleston series showing up after years-long gaps. New showrunner, new Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS design.
 
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killer_clank

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Christmas plot:

The BBC has teased viewers about the plot of Steven Moffat's upcoming Doctor Who Christmas special.

Controller of drama commissioning Ben Stephenson revealed that the episode, which guest stars Michael Gambon and Katherine Jenkins, will be based on Charles Dickens's 1843 novel A Christmas Carol.

Stephenson said: "Matt Smith and Karen Gillan captivated audiences in their debut series and Doctor Who's clever twist on the much loved A Christmas Carol will thrill BBC One viewers this year with special guest stars Sir Michael Gambon and singing sensation Katherine Jenkins joining Amy and the Doctor for an unforgettable present!"

Dickens appeared as a character in the Series One episode 'The Unquiet Dead' in 2005, with Simon Callow playing the Victorian author.

Writer and executive producer Steven Moffat also revealed that the episode will include a "honeymoon" and be like "all your favourite Christmas movies at once".

Speaking on her first day on set, Jenkins said: "I'm over the moon to be involved in the Doctor Who Christmas special.

"I can't quite believe it as it's a part of the family tradition at the Jenkins household. I heard the news that I got the role on my 30th birthday and it was the best birthday present ever!"

Filming will continue until August. It has been suggested that the working title for the episode is 'Father Who?'.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a242161/bbc-teases-doctor-who-special-plot.html

Been done a million times before, but I trust in Moffat to put a spin on it.
 
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Dr Zhivago

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Hmm,
A Christmas Carol
eh?

I bet that
all three 'ghosts' are the Doctor via time travel. Just Matt Smith though, not multi-Doctors. Where might the Yeti fit in? And who will save the Orient Express? In space?

Also, watch series 4. Donna is ace.
 
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Cosmonaut X

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JoshuaJSlone said:
I've meant to ask this among the people more familiar with the goings-on of the old show, but was there ever another such point of concentrated change all at once? Not counting the TV movie or Eccleston series showing up after years-long gaps. New showrunner, new Doctor, new companion, new TARDIS design.
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Not that I can think of. The move from Hartnell to Troughton to Pertwee to Baker I to Davison was pretty smooth, with a lot of the writers and figures involved in the Hartnell and Troughton years moving slowly upward in the ranks through the Third and Fourth Doctor's tenures. There were of course shifts in emphasis and direction as new hands took the wheel, but nothing where everything changed in one go.

You could perhaps make the case for the Baker II to McCoy transition being a bit more abrupt, due to the sudden departure of Colin Baker and Eric Saward, but even then you had some continuity with Mel and John Nathan Turner.

EDIT:

Thinking about it more now, the switch from Troughton to Pertwee was pretty abrupt - two long-standing companions gone, a new Doctor, the TARDIS gone and the Doctor marooned on Earth, the introduction of UNIT as a major part of the series... The people behind the scenes may have remained, but that was probably one of the biggest upheavals for viewers. At least the other regenerations carried over one or two of the previous Doctor's companions and carried on much as before, but Troughton-to-Pertwee pretty much rebooted the series.
 
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mclem

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DoctorWho said:
Wow. I didn't realize how many of you hated Season 4. It really isn't that bad. I even like Voyage of the Damned.
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Best thing about Voyage of the Damned? Thanks to it, you can get from Bernard Cribbins to Jean-Claude Van Damme in only two hops.
 
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Cosmonaut X

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mclem said:
Best thing about Voyage of the Damned? Thanks to it, you can get from Bernard Cribbins to Jean-Claude Van Damme in only two hops.
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Bernard Cribbins and Kylie Minogue in VotD - - - - - Kylie Minogue and Jean-Claude Van Damme in Street Fighter?

You could also do Val Guest to Jean-Claude Van Damme in around five steps IIRC (or Nigel Kneale to Jean-Claude Van Damme in six...)
 
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WanderingWind

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JoshuaJSlone said:
I haven't seen it since it first aired, but I seem to recall some prominent bruising that made the implication.
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Nah, not even a little. She was way into him. They made out in front of the others and she resisted betraying him just the episode before. "What can I say? I'm his companion."

I guess she could have grown a conscience in the year, but it really came out of left field. Again, they just needed him dead to give them the "emotional" ending scene, but throughout the three episodes there was a hugely heavy-handed anti-gun message throughout, so they couldn't have one of the good people shoot him. So, instant heel turn.
 
The Elite

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WanderingWind said:
Nah, not even a little. She was way into him. They made out in front of the others and she resisted betraying him just the episode before. "What can I say? I'm his companion."

I guess she could have grown a conscience in the year, but it really came out of left field. Again, they just needed him dead to give them the "emotional" ending scene, but throughout the three episodes there was a hugely heavy-handed anti-gun message throughout, so they couldn't have one of the good people shoot him. So, instant heel turn.
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It's a year later and I recall there being bruising on her face. Things had clearly changed over the course of that year. It didn't come as a surprise to me at all when she shot him.
 
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infiniteloop

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WanderingWind said:
Nah, not even a little. She was way into him. .
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There's a scene where she's sporting a clear black eye, I can't find a screen cap anywhere but wikipedia says:

"In "Last of the Time Lords", set a year later, Lucy appears in a more opulent costume than before (a red evening dress and with red nail varnish), but with bruises around her right eye and a less enthusiastic attitude, suggesting physical and emotional abuse by the Master"

Here it is:

Last_of_the_Time_Lords_098.JPG
 
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infiniteloop

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Finally finished Series 1 (first Hartnell) yesterday. Took us about 6 months to get through them. It's been about 5 years since I've watched them and my wife (who likes the new stuff) wanted to watch them. I said I didn't think she'd get through more than a couple of episodes but she watched them all, even the recons.

An Unearthly Child: I love the first episode, probably my most watched episode of all Who. “It’s alive!”, indeed it is. The other 3 episodes aren't too exciting, the caveman stuff can be pretty painful to watch. 7/10

The Daleks: Good, but overlong. Really should be a couple of episodes shorter, starts to drag in the middle especially when they realise they've left the fluid link in the city. I like the freaked out Dalek "ahhhhh. ahhhhhh. ahhhhhhh". 7

The Edge of Destruction: Surreal but hastily written. The Doctor's speech is the highlight here. At 13:11 here. 5

Marco Polo: What a shame nothing exists of this serial, but we have every episode of the Web Planet. Tough to get through with the recons but it's a good tale. 7

Keys of Marinus: C'mon Moffat, the Voords deserve a second chance. 6

The Aztecs: 6

The Sensorites: I can see what they're trying here, it's a little creepy…but it's sooooooo dull. 2

The Reign of Terror: The usual historical: land, get captured, escape, get captured again, escape, leave. 4

Average: 5.5

Series 5 (2010) 7.2
Series 1 (2005) 6.3
Series 4 (2008) 5.818
Series 3 (2007) 5.545
Series 1 (1963) 5.5
Series 2 (2006) 5.455
Specials (2009) 5.25
 
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infiniteloop said:
Marco Polo: What a shame nothing exists of this serial, but we have every episode of the Web Planet. Tough to get through with the recons but it's a good tale. 7
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Oh man, those reconstructions. For some reason this one sticks out as having used one picture of Susan and Ping Cho an ungodly number of times.
Keys of Marinus: C'mon Moffat, the Voords deserve a second chance. 6
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I've heard this one wasn't very well-liked, but I enjoyed how fast paced it was with so many settings throughout the episodes.
The Reign of Terror: The usual historical: land, get captured, escape, get captured again, escape, leave. 4
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The thing that stuck out to me about this one was that it was mentioned as a favorite historical period of the Doctor's. What!?
 
The Elite

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infiniteloop said:
Yeah, I quite like it. It's like a mini Key To Time.
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I've got to check this out. :p

Just finished off The Space Museum not too long ago. Really enjoyed it. Loved that they played with the concept of time travel more than other early Who episodes.
 
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US actor Johnny Depp is tipped to play the venerable Doctor Who in a Hollywood version reportedly in the works.

Russel T. Davies — the man behind rebooting the series several years ago and who left the show last year — has apparently written the script.
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Thomper

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Just add a source, at least, because otherwise I'm pretty sure that's the same story from two weeks ago, when everyone that could possibly be involved said there's no chance of that ever happening at all. Some fansite made it up, people followed it, but there doesn't seem to be any real truth in it.

Besides, RTD is really busy right now on setting up the new season of Torchwood, I think. They start production soon, and it seems like he'll have his hands full on that.

Edit: RTD's very firm rebuttal: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/07/02/johnny-depp-versus-the-daleks/
 
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JonathanEx

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RTD could never write a Hollywood movie.

Although he'd have the budget he needs, they generally want the script to be completed in advance.
 
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Hot Coldman

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JonathanEx said:
RTD could never write a Hollywood movie.

Although he'd have the budget he needs, they generally want the script to be completed in advance.
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Shame. I've always wondered what a British Battlefield Earth would be like. :p
 
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Thomper

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G-Fex said:
Is RTD the reason I hear everyone dislikes Torchwood?
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Nah. We discussed him a few pages back, too, so I don't want to repeat myself too much, but he ran Doctor Who during the 9th and 10th Doctor years, and is the man who brought the show back. On the one hand, there probably wouldn't be a Doctor right now without him, but on the other, some of his season finale-stuff has been pretty awful.

Can't really blame him for Torchwood, though. He was the one who decided it should be a spin-off, but he wasn't really involved with it after the pilot, until the third season/miniseries. And I think everyone agrees that that miniseries, Children of Earth, is probably the best 'thing' Torchwood has ever done.
 
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Mr. Sam

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US actor Johnny Depp is tipped to play the venerable Doctor Who in a Hollywood version reportedly in the works.

Russel T. Davies — the man behind rebooting the series several years ago and who left the show last year — has apparently written the script.
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Someone crack the skin of the universe so we can throw this in.
 
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G-Fex

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Oh my that blonde chick is hot.

Anyways, Well now that I think about it and I'm probably gonna get flak but the 2nd season is probably my favorite. Can't say about this one cause, I've been missing almost all of it ><
 
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