Official Final Fantasy XII (JPN) Thread (read RULES in the first post)
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DarknessTear
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Sirolf said:
He's REALLY close to the beginning of the map, kinda hard to miss too.
Got my hot sex delivered early today. The intro is great full screen and the first hour is really awesome. I can barely make out what they are saying, only hints and things but the actual gameplay stands head and shoulders above probably every JP RPG ever created.
Uhm, that's a bit much. The game looks great for a PS2 title, but it's still very obviously current gen stuff and comes with current gen visual issues, namely "jaggies" and shimmering. I think you're a bit too enamoured with the fantastic art direction and animation to make a fair judgement.Bebpo said:
Deadly Monk
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Now my favorite FF next to Tactics. I bow to you Mr. Matsuno.
I love him.
The ending is
This manages to rival Tactics story in a very different way. Tactics was more complex but the simplicity of this story hits you hard. At least a few references to Shakespeare and Melville.
Complex Literature indeed.
I love him.
The ending is
a bit far out there.
Complex Literature indeed.
I think that's Bebpo's main point. That the no matter how many polygons you spew forth into a model or how glossy you make it shine, it amounts to nothing when you are being compared to a game that has low polygonal characters but contains high quality art direction and design. And that is what pulls out the trump card.Takuan said:I think you're a bit too enamoured with the fantastic art direction and animation to make a fair judgement.
Red Scarlet
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
I think that's the point of duckroll's wiki..
Ease up, Bebpo, you've only had the game for a day or so!
NCS says the Asian version ships today and the JPN one tomorrow, but I have a tracking number that doesn't do anything yet. Maybe later tonight or hopefully tomorrow stuff will happen.
cvkpaladin
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WTF? Someone already beat the game? LMAO! :lol
DarknessTear
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cvkpaladin said:
The people who got it ultra early did. I have a feeling Monk read 2chan spoilers.
Takuan said:Uhm, that's a bit much. The game looks great for a PS2 title, but it's still very obviously current gen stuff and comes with current gen visual issues, namely "jaggies" and shimmering. I think you're a bit too enamoured with the fantastic art direction and animation to make a fair judgement.
I'll just say this:
Why are no-shimmering, no-jaggies, more-polgyons, a determination for better graphics/visuals? I mean if one game looks beautiful and another looks mediocre does the mediocre one suddenly look better if it has no jaggies/shimmering? If the image of the mediocre one is crisper than the beautiful one, does that really make for better graphics/visuals?
I think graphics/visuals is the complete package of everything and the end result that sits on the screen. FFXII is visually showing me more gorgeous images than anything any other game has shown me. To me, that gives it the best graphics.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Bebpo said:
I agree that image quality (aliasing, filtering etc) isnt everything to graphics. But I think you may be considering the art direction more than anything, which is certainly a fair way to judge visual appeal. But technically its still only exploiting so much on 6 year old hardware. Still it doesn't surprise me that it holds up well to first gen 360 offerings for you, these are among the best artists in the biz afterall. From what Ive seen of videos the facial animation in the real-time cut scenes particularly blew me away.
Curious what kind of set are you playing on btw (sorry if you answered this already)? Im a little worried how its going to look on my Sony RP LCD. 480i PS2 on component has been pretty hit and miss. Is their a true 16:9 output or does it just stretch the image like DQ8?
hukasmokincaterpillar said:
I'm using the Sony XBR960 CRT HDTV. There's no 16:9 output or progressive scan, but with component cables and the TV's adjustment to image quality it looks pretty darn nice. There's a good dea lof shimmering, but it doesn't take away from the overall image much.
It might look pretty bad on your LCD as PS2 just really doesn't take to fixed pixel displays like LCD. But the flicker filter (smooths it slightly to add an AA x 2 look) might make it ok.
Vaandaviii
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This may have been posted, but it's worth the "old"
Spoiler free: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KilBsB-Hwk4&search=final fantasy XII
The complete pre-titlescreen movie. Simply WOW-WTF-I'M-PEEING-MY-PANTS-ASTIC
Spoiler free: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KilBsB-Hwk4&search=final fantasy XII
The complete pre-titlescreen movie. Simply WOW-WTF-I'M-PEEING-MY-PANTS-ASTIC
Vaandaviii
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RaijinFY said:Ugh, I thought it was in better quality! :lol
But you know, If you want it in better quality, you can dl it on IGN! It's in two parts though.
It's on IGN?? Yeah, at least I'm going to give my insider suscription a use (I suscribed just for the E3 :lol)
spoiler free:
Phenomenal. You are greeted with one of the most fantastic, breathtaking glimpses of the world of FFXII in the intro CG movie. Even the very first picture we all cherished (the reddish color town) is seen. The opening music is something we are all familiar with; it cries nostalgia. The music is extremely powerful and excellent, vivid and clear. The truth of final fantasy is now revealed. FFX, FFX-2, FFXI are not worthy of the FF name. Matsuno is truly the creator of masterpieces.
Phenomenal. You are greeted with one of the most fantastic, breathtaking glimpses of the world of FFXII in the intro CG movie. Even the very first picture we all cherished (the reddish color town) is seen. The opening music is something we are all familiar with; it cries nostalgia. The music is extremely powerful and excellent, vivid and clear. The truth of final fantasy is now revealed. FFX, FFX-2, FFXI are not worthy of the FF name. Matsuno is truly the creator of masterpieces.
Some pictures from Ikebukuro, I got there at 6 and got in line. By the time they started selling at 7, the line had made it to the intersection, 2 people deep. So maybe about 100+~ I guess. I'm sure the Shibuya Tsutaya must have had more since they were doing the countdown events there. Unfortunately I had preordered at Bic weeks ago, before they announced the events, otherwise I would have gone there.
DarknessTear
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mint said:
I'd like to throw a gigantic "fuck you" your way. FFX was no less than great.
The demo did nothing but establish the battle system. Even then, it didn't do it quite that well since there were no guidelines as to what to do exactly.. that's how I felt when I went through it for almost 2 hours today.djtiesto said:
The Gambit system is probably the biggest defining thing within the game, it's like a modified ATB system for the better. Everything is seamless, you can move towards your opponent/away depending on what you are doing. People are saying it's a lot like KOTOR and yeah it resembles it, but it's an entire mixture of that plus FF's usual ATB as well as a hint of Vagrant Story battle system.
Square games are always like that, but most places are giving 10% off so it's around 7900, and some as low as 6900. I had points at bic, so I only paid 4000 yen
Dirge was also insanely expensive, but you can already get it for 3500 yen used, so if it breaks 3000 I'm pickin it up.
Ahh... I have it, but can't play it because I'm at work. Damn year end reports...
Dirge was also insanely expensive, but you can already get it for 3500 yen used, so if it breaks 3000 I'm pickin it up.
Ahh... I have it, but can't play it because I'm at work. Damn year end reports...
Doom_Bringer
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CloudV said:Some pictures from Ikebukuro, I got there at 6 and got in line. By the time they started selling at 7, the line had made it to the intersection, 2 people deep. So maybe about 100+~ I guess. I'm sure the Shibuya Tsutaya must have had more since they were doing the countdown events there. Unfortunately I had preordered at Bic weeks ago, before they announced the events, otherwise I would have gone there.
Thanks!
CloudV said:Square games are always like that, but most places are giving 10% off so it's around 7900, and some as low as 6900. I had points at bic, so I only paid 4000 yen
Dirge was also insanely expensive, but you can already get it for 3500 yen used, so if it breaks 3000 I'm pickin it up.
Ahh... I have it, but can't play it because I'm at work. Damn year end reports...
hmmm maybe i can sell some games at wondergoo to bring the price down...
Ive never actually sold games back in japan, how exactly do i go about doing that.
sp0rsk said:
Wondergoo? You in Tohoku? Reminds of when I used to live in Akita, I bought Romancing Saga there.
Ahem, you just take the games you want to sell to anyplace that buys and be like " I want to sell these" "これを売りたいんですけど　"kore wo uritain desukedo" like that, they take 'em, scan the barcode, check the disc, give you a price. you have to feel out a form usually, name, address, and work, then they'll copy your gaijin card and thats it.
Just be careful, some games drop in price reaaaaaaaal fast. RPG's drop fast usually, I mean like to 1000 yen... kind of makes it not worth selling. I just sold Shadows of the collossus yesterday for 2500 yen after spending 3000 to buy it used though, that was cool
CloudV said:Wondergoo? You in Tohoku? Reminds of when I used to live in Akita, I bought Romancing Saga there.
Ahem, you just take the games you want to sell to anyplace that buys and be like " I want to sell these" "これを売りたいんですけど　"kore wo uritain desukedo" like that, they take 'em, scan the barcode, check the disc, give you a price. you have to feel out a form usually, name, address, and work, then they'll copy your gaijin card and thats it.
Just be careful, some games drop in price reaaaaaaaal fast. RPG's drop fast usually, I mean like to 1000 yen... kind of makes it not worth selling. I just sold Shadows of the collossus yesterday for 2500 yen after spending 3000 to buy it used though, that was cool
Not quite touhoku, im in koga. Moving to misato in a couple of weeks.
gah, i dont have my gaijin card yet. although i guess i can bring that little sheet i got for 300 yen at the city hall.