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Official GAF Rankings: Metal Gear Solid series

ScOULaris

Member
Sounds about right, but I still find it odd why such a limited scope. I guess I can understand leaving out non-canon games(though imo Ghost Babel should 4th on that list). Leaving out the Metal Gear games seems odd, especially with them playable in the HD collection. Metal Gear 2 is pretty much a 2D version of the PSX game.

Do you think that either MG1, MG2, or Ghost Babel would have gotten enough Top 3 votes to have made a difference? Just curious.
 

2San

Member
Do you think that either MG1, MG2, or Ghost Babel would have gotten enough Top 3 votes to have made a difference? Just curious.
That's beside the point, they are already some of the most unappreciated games around, you just made it even worse by not even listing them. While in quality they are good enough to be ranked in the top. The games aged really well. Pretty sure they atleast have a higher significance than MGS:pO. It just doesn't make sense to make an incomplete ranking.
 
R

Retro_

Unconfirmed Member
Do you think that either MG1, MG2, or Ghost Babel would have gotten enough Top 3 votes to have made a difference? Just curious.

You'd probably need a different scoring system if you included more games.


As it was this vote was pretty much 2 and 1 competing for 2nd place
 

rvy

Banned
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I'm OK with this.
 
mgs2 is probably the most dissapointing game ive ever played.

so much so that i gave up the franchise.

metal gear solid is one of my favorite games though. 5/5.
 

Sky Chief

Member
I'm just laughing at people who think that the MGS3 story line was so good. Please, it was completely hokey and predictable. Not to mention the game had by far the worst VO of any in the series.
 
I waited until voting ended so I could post this, basically I tried to think of which Metal Gear I thought was best, but I couldn't come to a conclusion. I can't rank them, they are all incredible experiences, even with some convoluted plot thrown in these games are, for me, amazing.
 

ScOULaris

Member
I'm gonna say MGS2 and MGS3 had equally bad voice-acting.

In MGS4 everyone sounded pretty good, except for Snake most of the time (overdone gravelly voice).

MGS1 is still the hands-down winner in this regard, though.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
I thought MGS3 was where Hayter's voice acting started going off the rails. He was still pretty good in 2 from what I recall.
 

Colocho

Banned
Why exactly is MGS3 almost universally loved? don't get me wrong I love it as well (I did rank it 4th though), but the added mechanics from both previous games aren't really that necessary. Camo system is a drag when you wanna change it and it doesn't give you that much of an advantage. The food system is irrelevant, there's so much shit to eat all the time (even on euro extreme), that you never ever feel like you're in a "survival mission", same goes for the injury system where healing supplies are pretty much limitless.

The story is pretty straight forward and not as whacky and crazy as previous entries. There are basically no plot twists, mindfucks, etc (OMG The Boss is actually not evil??? bitch please), in a way it's the least "Metal Gear" game in the series.

The Cobra Unit is just there, it doesn't have much of a part in the plot like Fox-Hound or Dead Cell and aside from the actual battles, they're rarely spoken of by the other characters.

It's still one hell of a game, but I feel it gets much more credit than it deserves.
 

Ridley327

Member
Why exactly is MGS3 almost universally loved? don't get me wrong I love it as well (I did rank it 4th though), but the added mechanics from both previous games aren't really that necessary. Camo system is a drag when you wanna change it and it doesn't give you that much of an advantage. The food system is irrelevant, there's so much shit to eat all the time (even on euro extreme), that you never ever feel like you're in a "survival mission", same goes for the injury system where healing supplies are pretty much limitless.

The story is pretty straight forward and not as whacky and crazy as previous entries. There are basically no plot twists, mindfucks, etc (OMG The Boss is actually not evil??? bitch please), in a way it's the least "Metal Gear" game in the series.

The Cobra Unit is just there, it doesn't have much of a part in the plot like Fox-Hound or Dead Cell and aside from the actual battles, they're rarely spoken of by the other characters.

It's still one hell of a game, but I feel it gets much more credit than it deserves.

It's a game that lets you beat bosses with a handkerchief, among other things.
 

ultron87

Member
As I played 3 again recently it is interesting in that the two stand out bosses (The End and The Boss) are truly incredible but the others are pretty bland since they have no story to them at all and fairly predictable game play.

Of course, I'd take hundreds of bosses like that over MGS4-style "I'm going to tell you a sad story about the boss you just killed".
 

Haunted

Member
4 voted as the worst console MGS by a large margin?


At least there's some semblance of sanity left here.
 
How can GAF do the top 50 Nintendo list so well, and then do this so wrong?

MGS 2 is the cat's pajamas. I love all these games (except PO), but none of the other games are as consistently fun, or tell as cool of a story. I'll take the underwater Emma escort mission of MGS2 over the MGS3 Eva escort mission any day.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Didn't vote, but I will throw in, one of the quintessential moments in videogame storytelling (for me) was the moment after the credits in MGS1. Ocelot talking on the phone, to "Mr. President." Just a "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa" moment for me, even if the end result wasn't quite as great, it still stands out for me.

But the overall rankings are pretty close to how I'd put them.
 
Top 4 is exactly how I voted, so I'm pleased. Really, MGS3 and MGS1 are interchangeable for me at No. 1. Both are the best MGS games in my eyes.
 

90sRobots

Member
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Is this from the PC port? I played it waaaaaaay back in the day but I don't remember Snake ever having eyes. Kind of unsettling.
 

Despera

Banned
I enjoy the entire series so I'm okay with the gaf results.
This pretty much.

MGS2 will always be my #1 though. It's funny how a lot of people think less of the game because of the crazy story. Personally, I wouldn't have my MGS any other way.
 
MGS2 has the best and most balanced gameplay in the series and Raiden was a fantastic bold move.

And yet the Plant level design was boring, the set pieces were mediocre, the boss fights were the worst in the series and the writing was just a complete mess. I'll give you the gameplay and the Tanker scenario (both were fantastic) but the rest of that game? No. The entire Plant scenario is the worst part of the entire series as far as I'm concerned (excluding Twin Snakes and Snake's Revenge).

Put MGS2 below MGS4 and PW and I like the list. More people around here really need to play PW though, it's fantastic.
 

Murkas

Member
Nice list, although to be fair I would have been happy with any order since they're all great games.

Portable Ops and Peace Walker are definitely under rated (or maybe they're just under played since it doesn't look like many people played them, even MGS fans)
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
- Undeveloped healing mechanics that you never really use if you're not terrible at the game

- Undeveloped food mechanics that you never really use past the first playthrough unless you're going for Markhor

- Camo system is generally a waste of time

- Terrible online mode with servers that aren't even up anymore instead of hundreds of extra missions

- Story was isolated from the other four games pretty severely, notably when it first came out

But it's still a fantastic game!
 
- Undeveloped healing mechanics that you never really use if you're not terrible at the game

- Undeveloped food mechanics that you never really use past the first playthrough unless you're going for Markhor

- Camo system is generally a waste of time

- Terrible online mode with servers that aren't even up anymore instead of hundreds of extra missions

- Story was isolated from the other four games pretty severely, notably when it first came out

But it's still a fantastic game!

I agree with all these points. I think MGS3 would be my favorite if they took out all the eating/healing/camo stuff.
 
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