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[xXCHAOSXx]

Anyone care to help me pick a MOBO for this AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz? I'll only be running one 9800GT PCI-E x16 and maybe 4 to 8 gigs of ram... there are so many different boards it boggles me:lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

 

[brain_stew]

Anyone care to help me pick a MOBO for this AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz? I'll only be running one 9800GT PCI-E x16 and maybe 4 to 8 gigs of ram... there are so many different boards it boggles me:lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471

If you don't mind an open box item then this is a bargain but be quick:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384R

Normal version here but its still my pick:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128384

 

[brain_stew]

Thanks again for the help. I think I may get the GPU and first HDD you mentioned. My only question left is what I need for a power supply? 450w? I don't need anything fancy, just enough to get the job done.

A 450w PSU from a reputable brand will be fine, yes.

This is nice:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003&Tpk=corsair 450w

As is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006

Though if you don't mind dealing with rebates this might be the best deal as your're getting an energy efficient, well specced 500w modular PSU from a decent brand for $45:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

Isn't that an old Phenom, one of the original AMD quad cores? Because those were awful. Its memory cache is tiny as well, though I haven't seen its benchmarks. Black Editions are good if you overclock them, with an unlocked multiplier, but that might not even be relevant to him if he doesn't want to overclock his cpu. An AMD 720 has a higher clock, better FSB and is roughly the same price. Its also the best value CPU on the market, and isn't expensive on newegg at all.

Oh shit, crap fuck it was mentioned on the 720 page, I've messed up here thought it was the 720 included, was too late at night. And yes, 720 is the way to go, I said as much in my post.

Good spot, I'll PM the guy in question.

Kipe, thanks for the response. Brain Stew mentioned it might be a better deal to just start over, so I picked up one of the XPS 435 systems from Dell Outlet.



Brain Stew,

This should be good for games, yes? I shouldn't have to swap anything out or anything I hope. Thanks for all of the help!

Hells yes, that and anything else you throw at it, great for the money.

 

[Wired]

Thanks again for the help. I think I may get the GPU and first HDD you mentioned. My only question left is what I need for a power supply? 450w? I don't need anything fancy, just enough to get the job done.

Without looking up what you're building, keep in mind that a good PSU can last a good long while so if you think you may upgrade in the foreseeable future it might be a good idea to get a bigger PSU than you currently need. No need to go totally overboard but it's better to have a little leeway than wasting money by having to buy a new one in a year or two.

 

[Concept17]

A 450w PSU from a reputable brand will be fine, yes.

This is nice:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003&Tpk=corsair 450w

As is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006

Though if you don't mind dealing with rebates this might be the best deal as your're getting an energy efficient, well specced 500w modular PSU from a decent brand for $45:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016




Oh shit, crap fuck it was mentioned on the 720 page, I've messed up here thought it was the 720 included, was too late at night. And yes, 720 is the way to go, I said as much in my post.

Good spot, I'll PM the guy in question.





Hells yes, that and anything else you throw at it, great for the money.

Thanks. Threw ya a PM.

 

[brain_stew]

Thanks. Threw ya a PM.

Since the new combo I found for you is such a deal, I'll post it here anyway.

X3 720 + an ASUS 790GX motherboard with 2xPCIe 2.0 and all the trimmings for under $200:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.203011

You'll need DDR3 memory for this board though but considering the price and the "future proofness" its worth it.

This would be fine:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

 

[Hazaro]

Specs from the BIOS:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4586/img3064i.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6483/img3065e.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8692/img3066x.jpg

CPU: E8400 @ 3Ghz
RAM: Corsair DDR2 4GB PC-6400/800 (2x XMS2 2GB) TWIN2X4096-6400C5 Ram

I was thinking about taking it from 3 to about 3.4GHz just for a little boost for gaming. (why does it say 2.83??)

I just need to be told what to do

Mmmk

RAM to manually set at 5-5-5-18 @ 1.9V
PCI-E to 101Mhz

CPU to 9x Multiplier and 333Mhz FSB, Voltage to 1.300V, Term to 1.2V manual, PLL to 1.55 manual, Reference on Auto since I don't know what that is.

From there work up slightly until your system is not stable under stress, then in order bump:
CPU Voltage, MCH, then Termination Voltage (Don't go over 1.3V)

Once it's stable gain, bump up the Mhz.

Repeat.
*You should probably only need to mess with the CPU voltage primarily, 1.3V should net you 3.8Ghz at 1.3-1.35V load (in windows the voltage can be lower than when it was set in BIOS)

 

[TheExodu5]

For the Canadians out there:

XFX HD 4890:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=37430&vpn=HD489AZDFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1087
$225

No fussing with MIRs.

 

[Confusion Illusion]

Ok, so I've got my eyes set on this Core 2 Quad Q9550+ ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo bundle for $399(canadian). Is that a good deal or what?

Of coarse, if don't buy them as part of the bundle deal then it will cost me $5 more.

 

[FromTheFuture]

Hey guys, I need a bit of help with my build. Build first, questions to follow:

• [Case]NZXT. Tempest Mid-Tower
• [HDD]Western Digital 640GB 7200RPM SATA
• [GPU]Radeon HD 4770 512MB
• [PSU]Corsair 450W PSU
• [RAM]G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
• [CPU]Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz
• [Misc]Rosewill CPU Cooler

And questions...

1. What motherboard should I get?
2. Do all of the components look good?
3. Is building a computer for the first time difficult?
4. Is over clocking difficult? (first time)
5. Is there a place that can help show me how to put it all together?

Thanks.

 

[MWS Natural]

Got my Toxic 4890 much earlier than expected <3newegg....going to slap it in the PC and hook it up to the Kuro tonight. 14 days till I get my monitor back from Samsung =/

 

[Chiggs]

AMD Goes for Intel's Jugular

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1356940/amd-goes-intel-jugular

Keep it up, AMD. We need you around.

 

[Atilac]

Any suggested graphic mods for crysis and crysis warhead? My new comp has a phenom ii x4 955, Ati 4890, and 4 gigs of ram.

 

[K.Jack]

I need AMD to do something substantial in the mobile market, because Intel is raping us with the Core 2 pricing.

A 2.26Ghz Core 2 Quad = $900, a 3Ghz Core 2 Duo = $590? Come the fuck on. The enthusiast community has been forced to buy engineering samples from eBay, which are 1/3 of the price.

Hopefully AMD's upcoming Tigris mobile platform is decent.

 

[brain_stew]

Ok, so I've got my eyes set on this Core 2 Quad Q9550+ ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo bundle for $399(canadian). Is that a good deal or what?

Of coarse, if don't buy them as part of the bundle deal then it will cost me $5 more.

I couldn't really recommend socket 775 to anyone at this point, its a dead end platform with no upgrade options. You may as well go with a core i7 rig if you can afford a high end socket 775 setup. If you can't stretch that far then socket AM3/AM2+ Phenom iis are generally cheaper, whilst offering similar performance but an actual future upgrade path.

AMD Goes for Intel's Jugular

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1356940/amd-goes-intel-jugular

Keep it up, AMD. We need you around.

The Phenom ii and HD 4800 series were a real return to form, the benefits to us as end users are there for all to see with the excellent pricing we're now witnessing. The new Athlon ii range is another huge success as far as I'm concerned as well.

I need AMD to do something substantial in the mobile market, because Intel is raping us with the Core 2 pricing.

A 2.26Ghz Core 2 Quad = $900, a 3Ghz Core 2 Duo = $590? Come the fuck on. The enthusiast community has been forced to buy engineering samples from eBay, which are 1/3 of the price.

Hopefully AMD's upcoming Tigris mobile platform is decent.

And this is the perfect example of what happens when a competitive AMD aren't around. The new Phenom ii based Athlons seem like a perfect fit to be fine tuned for the mobile space to me, a 65w TDP at 3ghz is pretty impressive, so I'm sure they could salvage a decent mobile part from the range.

 

[brain_stew]

Hey guys, I need a bit of help with my build. Build first, questions to follow:

• [Case]NZXT. Tempest Mid-Tower
• [HDD]Western Digital 640GB 7200RPM SATA
• [GPU]Radeon HD 4770 512MB
• [PSU]Corsair 450W PSU
• [RAM]G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
• [CPU]Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz
• [Misc]Rosewill CPU Cooler

And questions...

1. What motherboard should I get?
2. Do all of the components look good?
3. Is building a computer for the first time difficult?
4. Is over clocking difficult? (first time)
5. Is there a place that can help show me how to put it all together?

Thanks.

I'm going to have to offer a few alterations here. An AMD X3 720 is the same price as that E7400 and a much, much better buy.

Have a look at this combo deal, it means you've got plenty of places to go in the future whilst getting similar performance now in dual core apps plus upto a 50% performance leap for the increasing number of applications that are optimised for more cores:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.203011

4850s are cheaperand faster than 4770s, this one has a much better cooler and double lifetime warranty than the 4770 you picked out, at the same price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150337

This 4850 comes out at as little as $75 once promo codes and rebates are sorted out, 2 year warranty:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824


You're going to need to switch out to DDR3 RAM if you go this route, this stuff looks great:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

That Rosewill cooler is great, but you'll obviously need the corresponding AMD version if you change your build (which I highly recommend).

 

[FromTheFuture]

I'm going to have to offer a few alterations here. An AMD X3 720 is the same price as that E7400 and a much, much better buy.

Have a look at this combo deal, it means you've got plenty of places to go in the future whilst getting similar performance now in dual core apps plus upto a 50% performance leap for the increasing number of applications that are optimised for more cores:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.203011

4850s are cheaperand faster than 4770s, this one has a much better cooler and double lifetime warranty than the 4770 you picked out, at the same price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150337

This 4850 comes out at as little as $75 once promo codes and rebates are sorted out, 2 year warranty:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824


You're going to need to switch out to DDR3 RAM if you go this route, this stuff looks great:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

That Rosewill cooler is great, but you'll obviously need the corresponding AMD version if you change your build (which I highly recommend).

Awhile I was told by several people that Intel is better than AMD (paraphrasing) and it has kind of given me a natural preference of Intel over AMD. Has this ever been true, and if it has, is that a non-issue now?

Also how would i find the AMD equivalent of that cooler?

Sorry, i'm a PC noob. Thanks.

edit. Whats the difference between the two GPUs you posted? I obviously want to keep the price low but would it be better to get the more expensive one with the increased warranty?

 

[brain_stew]

Awhile I was told by several people that Intel is better than AMD (paraphrasing) and it has kind of given me a natural preference of Intel over AMD. Has this ever been true, and if it has, is that a non-issue now?

Also how would i find the AMD equivalent of that cooler?

Sorry, i'm a PC noob. Thanks.

edit. Whats the difference between the two GPUs you posted? I obviously want to keep the price low but would it be better to get the more expensive one with the increased warranty?

Well the Phenom ii line is a massive return to form from AMD, they pretty much own the low end and mid range now, with Intel mopping up the high end with core i7. Your advice is outdated if it was ever true at all, its all about getting the best bang wuthin your budget constraints at the current moment in time. At the current moment in time that means an X3 720 is your best bet.

This is the cooler you want:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200036

Personally, i'd go with the cheaper 4850, but many are fans of XFX and their customer service and warranty, a 2 year warranty is more than enough for a GPU as far as I'm concerned (after that time it'll be worth diddly squat anyway) but others disagree. The XFX card seemingly has a better cooler but that wouldn't be enough to justify the leap in price for me, its your call though.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

Newegg is advertising a $600 gaming PC based on Tom's Hardware Guide

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEPro/Editorial09/index.html

They went the Intel E5200 route though

 

[brain_stew]

Newegg is advertising a $600 gaming PC based on Tom's Hardware Guide

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEPro/Editorial09/index.html

They went the Intel E5200 route though

Its a nice idea but you can do much better for the money.

 

[Zyzyxxz]

Its a nice idea but you can do much better for the money.

I don't see how much better you can get other than getting a different video card, if you want to keep the Silverstone case and the GTX 260 then the E5200 is basically your only choice.

If you want a better CPU you would have to drop down to a 4870 or a 4850.

It's not a bad build and for those and saves the hassle for those who dont know their parts but dont wanna pay lots of money for pre-built systems.

 

[brain_stew]

I don't see how much better you can get other than getting a different video card, if you want to keep the Silverstone case and the GTX 260 then the E5200 is basically your only choice.

If you want a better CPU you would have to drop down to a 4870 or a 4850.

It's not a bad build and for those and saves the hassle for those who dont know their parts but dont wanna pay lots of money for pre-built systems.

I just don't see the logic in dedicating so much to the case and PSU in such a build, they've really gone with a shitty motherboard in that build and that GTX 260 is heavily overpriced. You're much better served with an Athlon X2 250 than a E5200 these days as well.

I run a E5200 and GTX 260 myself by the way and am more than happy with the performance but things change.

 

[MWS Natural]

Put new 4890 in but when I boot up it says I have the worng power connections or something. So I take off my 6/8pin connectors that are hardwired in my PSU and put in the strickly 8pin cable and put it back in. It powers up fine but will not display any video. With my last card I dropped it in and was good to go from the start. I have reseated it and checked all cables 3 times now and I cannot get any video using DVI or DVI/HDMI coverter. Do I need to install the ATI drivers first before it works? I am using Win 7 now and was using XP before.

 

[Kritz]

I've been looking around for a new GPU recently, and I've come across this:
Sapphire HD4870 1G GDDR5 for $239 (AUD). The plan is to replace my 8800GT with it.

Any opinions on if I'm on the right path?

 

[MWS Natural]

Installed ATI drivers and still nothing. I have re-seated the card 4 times and made sure all of the connections were in...I don't know anything else to try. I have been looking in my bios to see if there is anything but there is no "enable gfx card" button. I have no idea what is wrong, I can't imagine I permanently damaged it in 5 seconds by using the PSU 6/8 connector instead of the dedicated 8pin connector...

 

[Akim]

Sucks that newegg doesn't ship things out on Saturday or Sunday, now my parts will take forever to get here

 

[Stop It]

Installed ATI drivers and still nothing. I have re-seated the card 4 times and made sure all of the connections were in...I don't know anything else to try. I have been looking in my bios to see if there is anything but there is no "enable gfx card" button. I have no idea what is wrong, I can't imagine I permanently damaged it in 5 seconds by using the PSU 6/8 connector instead of the dedicated 8pin connector...

No, using a converter should not kill it, usually the PC would just beep at you if it wasn't getting enough power from it so you don't have to worry about that.

As for the card not producing any video at POST, it sounds DOA to me, well I say that, but why are you using an 8 pin connector in the first place? The HD4890 uses 2x 6pins, NOT an 8pin from all the reviews I have seen. Are you using 2 separate PCI-E 6x power connectors in there? If not that card will not work properly to at all.

 

[SS4Gogita]

I like how my laptop (Inspiron 1501) likes to overheat when playing games. I mean, I don't even really play games, but I do use Stepmania, and it only takes 10-15 minutes before the thing gets hot enough to the point that the computer just shuts off.

I'm just so bad at putting things back together that I'm afraid to open this thing up

I'm really just thinking of waiting until I get my school funds so I can sell this one and get something similar to it.

 

[TheHeretic]

Oh shit, crap fuck it was mentioned on the 720 page, I've messed up here thought it was the 720 included, was too late at night. And yes, 720 is the way to go, I said as much in my post.

Good spot, I'll PM the guy in question.

Yeah I figured that was just a mistake, I know you know your shit!

 

[Everdred]

Opinions on PC problem.

So I played some WoW, shut off my computer normally and went to bed. I woke up 6 hours later and tried to turn on my PC but nothing happened. Here's what I see:

- When I hit the power button the power supply lights up for a half a second and shuts off.
- Motherboad light is green at all times
- If I hold in the power and reset button the power supply will continue to run and the fans will spin but I get no post or beep codes
- My Zune still charges when plugged into the USB port
- I swapped my power supply with my friends and his does the same thing, which makes me think I can rule out the power supply.
- I pulled out the CPU and I see no signs of overheating

I think the issue is with the motherboard dying. Why do you guys think? Thanks for the opinions.

 

[TheHeretic]

I've been looking around for a new GPU recently, and I've come across this:
Sapphire HD4870 1G GDDR5 for $239 (AUD). The plan is to replace my 8800GT with it.

Any opinions on if I'm on the right path?

Thats very cheap, its a good deal. Im on an 8800GTS 512 and i'm waiting for the next generation of cards though. I dabble into all PC games and nothing has convinced me I need an upgrade, so i'm curious as to why you feel the need to. If you are going to a higher resolution monitor I can see that, though both my friends play at 1080 and have 8800GT's.

In short, DX11 cards are coming out this year, i'd wait to see what those offer.

 

[vertopci]

I'm gonna overclock my 8800GTX and was planning to just set the fan to 100% speed permanently. Any problems that could result from doing that?

 

[Polk]

I'm gonna overclock my 8800GTX and was planning to just set the fan to 100% speed permanently. Any problems that could result from doing that?

You will go deaf?

 

[Kadey]

Guys, quick answer. Does this PSU have enough connectors to run a GTX 260 216 core?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3255393&CatId=1483

 

[Kritz]

Thats very cheap, its a good deal. Im on an 8800GTS 512 and i'm waiting for the next generation of cards though. I dabble into all PC games and nothing has convinced me I need an upgrade, so i'm curious as to why you feel the need to. If you are going to a higher resolution monitor I can see that, though both my friends play at 1080 and have 8800GT's.

In short, DX11 cards are coming out this year, i'd wait to see what those offer.

I have a few (not very good) reasons for wanting an upgrade.
I'm probably going to jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 at some point, and in addition to this, my current 8800GT bafflingly doesn't support dual monitors (there's only a single DVI port on the thing. Lack of research ftl). I'm also finding that I generally want to get more Anti Aliasing from games, or just to push the game a little further. STALKER, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and a few others aren't really giving me all I'd like them to. It would be nice to get a few more frames per second, too.

It's not that I feel that I NEED to, though. The 8800GT is probably going to be a great card up until the next console generation when games get another graphical boost.

 

[TheHeretic]

I have a few (not very good) reasons for wanting an upgrade.
I'm probably going to jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 at some point, and in addition to this, my current 8800GT bafflingly doesn't support dual monitors (there's only a single DVI port on the thing. Lack of research ftl). I'm also finding that I generally want to get more Anti Aliasing from games, or just to push the game a little further. STALKER, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and a few others aren't really giving me all I'd like them to. It would be nice to get a few more frames per second, too.

It's not that I feel that I NEED to, though. The 8800GT is probably going to be a great card up until the next console generation when games get another graphical boost.

Well its up to you. Its only a few hundred dollars and if you are pretty liberal in your PC spending (as many of us are) its not a big deal. If your whole PC is starting to wear thin consider waiting for a full blown upgrade later on, but if you are happy with your setup and your GPU is holding you back also consider a 4890. Its a very powerful card, and can do well in overclocking which is dead easy for GPU's. Of course, its more expensive, but will give your setup more longevity as well.

8800GT to 4870 is indeed a solid upgrade, especially if you need dual DVI, but one generation GPU upgrades aren't very good value for money in my opinion, especially considering the 8800GT is one of the best cards ever made.

 

[Kosma]

For how long is VictimofGrief banned if anyone knows?

 

[Sleeker]

For how long is VictimofGrief banned if anyone knows?

and why was he banned?

 

[evlcookie]

I have a few (not very good) reasons for wanting an upgrade.
I'm probably going to jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080 at some point, and in addition to this, my current 8800GT bafflingly doesn't support dual monitors (there's only a single DVI port on the thing. Lack of research ftl). I'm also finding that I generally want to get more Anti Aliasing from games, or just to push the game a little further. STALKER, Crysis, Far Cry 2 and a few others aren't really giving me all I'd like them to. It would be nice to get a few more frames per second, too.

It's not that I feel that I NEED to, though. The 8800GT is probably going to be a great card up until the next console generation when games get another graphical boost.

Im using a 4850 and playing everything at 1920 x 1200 on my monitor. The 4870 would be fine. However ATI are meant to release their next set of gpus, DX11 based around the time windows 7 hits which would be October.

So you can wait it out and get new probably a bit expensive hardware or just grab a good card like the one you have listed and enjoy whatever it is you are playing from now untill whenever you feel the need to do another upgrade.

 

[Kritz]

Im using a 4850 and playing everything at 1920 x 1200 on my monitor. The 4870 would be fine. However ATI are meant to release their next set of gpus, DX11 based around the time windows 7 hits which would be October.

So you can wait it out and get new probably a bit expensive hardware or just grab a good card like the one you have listed and enjoy whatever it is you are playing from now untill whenever you feel the need to do another upgrade.

Eh, if there's anything I've learned about computers, is that you'll wait until the end of time until you pick something definite.

Not sure what to do with my current 8800GT, mind you. Might give it to a friend or sell it...

 

[Kosma]

and why was he banned?

Culling of the PC master race by dirty poor console peasants.

 

[MWS Natural]

No, using a converter should not kill it, usually the PC would just beep at you if it wasn't getting enough power from it so you don't have to worry about that.

As for the card not producing any video at POST, it sounds DOA to me, well I say that, but why are you using an 8 pin connector in the first place? The HD4890 uses 2x 6pins, NOT an 8pin from all the reviews I have seen. Are you using 2 separate PCI-E 6x power connectors in there? If not that card will not work properly to at all.

The Toxic 4890 has one 8pin and one 6pin, I guess it's just DOA =/

For how long is VictimofGrief banned if anyone knows?

From his views on gay marriage I believe, not sure if it is perma.

 

[Sleeker]

The Toxic 4890 has one 8pin and one 6pin, I guess it's just DOA =/


From his views on gay marriage I believe, not sure if it is perma.

Ergh, that's why i stick to the gaming section.
Everyone's cool in here but they can turn into turds in the OT

 

[Stop It]

The Toxic 4890 has one 8pin and one 6pin, I guess it's just DOA =/

From his views on gay marriage I believe, not sure if it is perma.

Oh, they 4890 must be pushing the power requirements a bit then, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Anyway, yes, it sounds like time for the RMA, before you do it would be best to try the card in a different PC if possible, just to be certain.

 

[asdad123]

I have a XPS400 with a 9800gt and it seems my CPU is bottlenecking my performance (Its a 820 Pentium D 2.8Ghz).
Im not too computer smart, but I read up and it looks like that I can not upgrade my CPU to Core 2 Duos so that is why I'm here. What would be the cheapest way to get a core 2 rig? I assume that I would have to replace the motherboard? I am looking to spend around $250-300 dollars.
Thanks in advance!

 

[dionysus]

MSI 4890 for 160 after mail in rebate on newegg. What to do. What to do. Finally being graphically limited by my 8800GT in games like Empire: TW.

 

[Zozz]

I need some suggestions, I can't seem to choose.

should I go with the AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz or the AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz?


The X4 940 is gonna cost me $189, while the x4 920 is going to be $149 minus a a $18 promo discount, so $131.

 

[DarthWoo]

I can't find the thread about cleaning the inside of the PC. Someone mentioned using a Coleman air pump, but I wasn't sure if they were serious or joking. Anyone remember where the thread is? I've searched every which way I could (both with the forum search and Google.)

 

[AndyD]

I need some suggestions, I can't seem to choose.

should I go with the AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz or the AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz?


The X4 940 is gonna cost me $189, while the x4 920 is going to be $149 minus a a $18 promo discount, so $131.

Take the 50 bucks and the 920. It can easily be overclocked 200 mhz to catch up if you are so inclined, but its not really needed, the 920 is plenty fast.

 

[Hazaro]

I can't find the thread about cleaning the inside of the PC. Someone mentioned using a Coleman air pump, but I wasn't sure if they were serious or joking. Anyone remember where the thread is? I've searched every which way I could (both with the forum search and Google.)

That's me and yes, that's what I use :lol

Kadey, yeah that will run it, you will need the two 4-pin(molex) to 6 pin connector though.
I'd get another PSU down the line to replace it also.