brain_stew
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Minsc said:
Turbo mode is a wonderful thing.
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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
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Turbo mode is a wonderful thing.
BravoSuperStar
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Violater said:
When in doubt, go with Asus. Especially for motherboards.
brain_stew
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Violater said:
Fair enough, though I'd still look at an i7 860.
Having said that then, I'd ditch the pricey RAM, and instead get 12GB of slower DDR3 for the same price, LGA1366 doesn't even officialy support DDR3 1600, the extra speed is a waste really.
You can get 12GB of this stuff for less than 6GB of the RAM you selected for instance:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0227477&cm_re=6gb_ddr3-_-20-227-477-_-Product
Either of these two sets are a decent choice, you wouldn't notice any worse performance, RAM speed has a very small impact on performance:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25&cm_re=6gb_ddr3_1600-_-20-231-225-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0145242&cm_re=6gb_ddr3-_-20-145-242-_-Product
HI
i have desktop with i7 - gtx 295 - 2x3 ddr3 - 2x1 1 tb hard drive - 1 dvd rw
all that using corsair 750w 80plus
do you think my psu can handle sound card and 1 hard drive ?
cause i just bought ht omega sound card and i forget about the power consumption
can you recommend me some good 7200 rpm 2 tb or more hard drive ?
thanks
i have desktop with i7 - gtx 295 - 2x3 ddr3 - 2x1 1 tb hard drive - 1 dvd rw
all that using corsair 750w 80plus
do you think my psu can handle sound card and 1 hard drive ?
cause i just bought ht omega sound card and i forget about the power consumption
can you recommend me some good 7200 rpm 2 tb or more hard drive ?
thanks
brain_stew
Member
Q8D3vil said:
:lol
Of course, yeah, your sound card will draw a negligible amount of power, same with the HDD.
BravoSuperStar
Member
Valru said:
They suck now, but the Nforce 4 was the bee's knee's back in the day. =)
Minsc
Gold Member
Q8D3vil said:
Western Digital 2 TB Caviar Black SATA 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache.
It's basically like a WD Velociraptor, except over 10x larger. Great drive, and a 5 year warranty too!
Bob Coffee
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anyone here have experience unlocking a phenom II x550 to quad core? i dont plan on ocing it, but im wondering if the stock heat sink is enough or should i wait and get a heatsink with a little bit more balls before attempting the unlock?
MidgarBlowedUp
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SuperEnemyCrab said:
Or ASROCK which is still Asus and cheaper and in many cases the better deal
MidgarBlowedUp
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brain_stew said:
Too late for the X4's but, no biggie to me as I'm already enjoying my new computer now. Amazing how slow a 2.8 celeronD with only 512 of ram is compared to this thing. Can't imagine an OC'd X4 in here.
brain_stew said:
Yeah, I went ahead with the 4770 and that EarthWatts 380 PSU. Actually both were installed just a little while ago. I already OC'd the 4770 in the Catalyst Control Center to the max(830/850) for that software with absolutely no issues at all. I'll probably try out Riva Tuner tomorrow just to see how much higher I can go with the card. 850/950 would be really nice but, I have my doubts.
Has anyone seen any recent (post 2003) Silicon Graphics case mod conversions? I've been pondering getting a cheap Octane case and using it as a media server. I have a working Indigo 2 (BTW free to anyone who wants to pay the crazy shipping charges) and Indigo 1 (keeping that one for sentimental reasons) but those cases are too small to have much fun with.
BTW for those pondering a cool case, you can get a fully functioning SGI Fuel (well, sort of functioning) for about $500, which for some of you might be worth it for the skin alone
BTW for those pondering a cool case, you can get a fully functioning SGI Fuel (well, sort of functioning) for about $500, which for some of you might be worth it for the skin alone
godhandiscen said:
Dude... really, no need to fly off the handle like that :lol
I heard about the recall when it was news- that is, march of this year. It specifically affected the ASG7200 and ASG7700, which were release around April 2008, and neither of which are the computer I got. In fact, the 7710 was unveiled- *gasp*- two months after that recall, and yes, using the same case.
The machines have barely any parts in common at all besides the case (in fact, zero, judging by a superficial glance at the 7700's spec list), but most notably those two used the same completely different motherboard than the 7710.
This was not a refurbished unit that somebody sent back after it melted an innocent brain. This was not a lost pallet of soon-to-explode PCs discovered by acer and sent to be pawned off at the earliest convenience. This was a brand new PC put together by Acer and using the same case, and I happen to like it. Gut shots show great airflow, 4 external hdd hot-swap bays, the badass way the optical drive slots open... They continue using this case in their new systems to this day, and for good reason. I would've preferred the blue personally (http://www.gadgetfolder.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/acer-aspire-predator-amd.jpg) but I was nooot about to be picky for the price.
Look what 10 minutes of research before posting would have found:
engadget said:
Insulation on the internal wiring... does not sound like the fault of the case to me. In fact, it sounds like the fault of the particular assembly of PSU and Mobo that Acer put together in those models last year, and neither part is the same in this one.
Even if the case itself were a heatmonger, the 7710 has liquid cooling, which neither of those models did. PCMag's benches which I read before buying pushed the system hard and made no mention of temperatures.
Listen, if it blows up and burns my face off I will be back on here with a plate of humble pie and $25 for godhandiscen. But I'm keeping the case. Its features were part of the value at purchase for me, and I'm not about to take it apart and install everything in another case because two models released over a year ago that happen to use the same case were recalled.
Violater, I know some other people that also wanted to jump on the deal and missed it so I am periodically checking the page, I will PM you if they find some lying around and put the deal back up at any point
I should be doing hw
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Just wanted to make a shout out to brain_stew, who is a gentleman and a scholar for helping me out so much with this PC business. Thanks man I really appreciate it.
Now for the next step :lol
Are any of these cases good? Keeping in mind that I don't intend to SLI anything:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=17833721
And can someone recommend me a good monitor? I'm thinking about having one in the 20-24" range with 1080p capabilities but I'm not sure if there is a wide difference in quality like there is with televisions.
Now for the next step :lol
Are any of these cases good? Keeping in mind that I don't intend to SLI anything:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=17833721
And can someone recommend me a good monitor? I'm thinking about having one in the 20-24" range with 1080p capabilities but I'm not sure if there is a wide difference in quality like there is with televisions.
:lol You linked to a reply to this thread bucko
EDIT: On monitors, I LOVE the acer 22'' (huh, acer... I suppose I don't have as many problems with acer as some seem to) that I got for $99, but it isn't 1080p capable. Might be cheaper now. Max res is 1680x1050, which makes for the largest pixel size available until 27'' with 1920x1080. Games look gooooooooood on it for such a price. I can get you a model/link if you're interested
EDIT: On monitors, I LOVE the acer 22'' (huh, acer... I suppose I don't have as many problems with acer as some seem to) that I got for $99, but it isn't 1080p capable. Might be cheaper now. Max res is 1680x1050, which makes for the largest pixel size available until 27'' with 1920x1080. Games look gooooooooood on it for such a price. I can get you a model/link if you're interested
One suggestion:Niks said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.258675
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.245467
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.262086
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150443
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059
You could probably skimp a little on the case, but I hear great things about it. This is just what I posted a few pages back.
Edit: Scratch everything. All the combos died 15 mins ago.
1920x1080 monitors are 23".Hawkian said:
brain_stew
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I should be doing hw said:
Your link doesn't work.
23" 1080p is the sweet spot I feel these days, the majority of which will be of a very similar quality if they use TN panels. If you don't mind doubling/tripling your budget then you will see a jump in quality from a better panel type, though people tend to inflate the deficiencies of TN panels these days, they're not nearly as bad as some paint them as.
I should be doing hw
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Lol wtf :lolHawkian said:
No idea how that happened. http://pcmaniacs.com.au/case-c-62.html Here's the real link.
Hazaro said:
Right you are. Sorry bout the NewEgg watermarks.
Holey back, batman! Big fans shove hot air out, o'course
Classy side vent; I may install an 80mm or so there depending on space/temps/noise. Mine will be running SLI so definitely a bit hotter, though the GPU coolers themselves are quite good.
The insidez; you can see the LC, clean cabling, drive cage, lots of open space, etc
I see what you did there.
I will, my good man! And if it 'splodes, I'll take pics of that too :lol
I should be doing hw
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Tell me about it, I hate this country.
Firestorm said:
Uh.. wha? Lots of monitors above 22'' can display 1920x1080. I was referring to the ability of a monitor to display pixel-for-pixel at the largest native size; a 23'' would have to squash, so greater density but smaller size; a 30'' would stretch, so vice versa (though these of course could also do 2560x1600... but then, of course, squashed); a 26'' or 27'' is the sweet spot for 1080p, though they're natively at 1920x1200 and have to ignore 60 pixels- you probably won't even notice.
Pretty much 22'' is to 1680x1050
as 27'' is to 1920x1200
Then again, to keep this all in perspective, barely any of this is detectable to the human eye, and it'll all look fantastic at the higher resolution of course no matter what monitor you choose.
As far as the cases, I'm partial to the X-Cruiser- just depends on components if you'd need to replace the PSU. It's a tight case though.
Anyone have a good recommendation for a matx case that would allow a 5870 or, ideally crossfired 5850s, but remain small enough to be able to viably be used in an entertainment center. I really like the cube and shuttle form factors, but it can go a bit bigger than that, but I dont want something taller than like double a shuttle.
I'd really love that new i7 shuttle barebone, but 600 bucks is way too much for a board, case, and power supply and that still wont cf 5850s (though a 5870 will fit).
I'd really love that new i7 shuttle barebone, but 600 bucks is way too much for a board, case, and power supply and that still wont cf 5850s (though a 5870 will fit).
Hazaro said:
Ahhh good to know. Thanks for the advice
The stock rear exhaust is 120mm, I'll be sure to burn it in (Prime 95x8 + Crysis at full res and AA, here I come) just to see how it does under EXTREME circumstances.EDIT:
I actually wouldn't say it's not going anywhere. Actually it's more like the old i7 chipset isn't going anywhere, necessarily, though who knows what Intel will do. The newer i7s (860 etc) use the Socket 1156 just like the i5s.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Don't think I am hoping for something bad to happen to you or that I posted out of envy. To my best knowledge, that case was popular for frying components. If Acer improved on their design, then it is great. I always considered that case looked badass, nice to see that it now performs on par with its looks.Hawkian said:Dude... really, no need to fly off the handle like that :lol
I heard about the recall when it was news- that is, march of this year. It specifically affected the ASG7200 and ASG7700, which were release around April 2008, and neither of which are the computer I got. In fact, the 7710 was unveiled- *gasp*- two months after that recall, and yes, using the same case.
The machines have barely any parts in common at all besides the case (in fact, zero, judging by a superficial glance at the 7700's spec list), but most notably those two used the same completely different motherboard than the 7710.
This was not a refurbished unit that somebody sent back after it melted an innocent brain. This was not a lost pallet of soon-to-explode PCs discovered by acer and sent to be pawned off at the earliest convenience. This was a brand new PC put together by Acer and using the same case, and I happen to like it. Gut shots show great airflow, 4 external hdd hot-swap bays, the badass way the optical drive slots open... They continue using this case in their new systems to this day, and for good reason. I would've preferred the blue personally (http://www.gadgetfolder.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/acer-aspire-predator-amd.jpg) but I was nooot about to be picky for the price.
Look what 10 minutes of research before posting would have found:
Insulation on the internal wiring... does not sound like the fault of the case to me. In fact, it sounds like the fault of the particular assembly of PSU and Mobo that Acer put together in those models last year, and neither part is the same in this one.
Even if the case itself were a heatmonger, the 7710 has liquid cooling, which neither of those models did. PCMag's benches which I read before buying pushed the system hard and made no mention of temperatures.
Listen, if it blows up and burns my face off I will be back on here with a plate of humble pie and $25 for godhandiscen. But I'm keeping the case. Its features were part of the value at purchase for me, and I'm not about to take it apart and install everything in another case because two models released over a year ago that happen to use the same case were recalled.
Violater, I know some other people that also wanted to jump on the deal and missed it so I am periodically checking the page, I will PM you if they find some lying around and put the deal back up at any point
I guess I would. Looking at the cooling solution, all the air will hit the vent the where the watercooler is hanging. I would use the sidevent as the main system exaust, and leave the rear vent dedicated to the watercooler to not alter its temps..Hazaro said:
godhandiscen said:
Oh no worries- I didn't think you were posting with either intention. I just figured you didn't realize that the story of the recall was from before the release of this rig, and this model wasn't affected. Even at this price, I wouldn't put down money for a prebuilt that I was just planning to immediately disassemble, and I always research every major component of a rig before I decide if it's a good deal.
Hawkian said:Ahhh good to know. Thanks for the advice
EDIT:
I actually wouldn't say it's not going anywhere. Actually it's more like the old i7 chipset isn't going anywhere, necessarily, though who knows what Intel will do. The newer i7s (860 etc) use the Socket 1156 just like the i5s.
Right but p55 doesnt support triple channel. I know real world isnt showing triple channel to be that much of an upgrade currently, but I dont see manufacturers giving up the buzzword and the difference should increase over time. Plus the i9 (six cores) wont be 1156, though who knows if they'll be worthwhile anyway.
vesp said:
At these levels of performance we're talking about marginal increases for exponentially larger amounts of money- basically, you can look at benchmarks to see where the bang for the buck is- and it's a pretty reasonable argument that right now, that's the i5s. I have no clue what the i9s will be like either, but I know I'm not going to upgrade my CPU again for at least a couple of years. I guess it just depends how long-term you're thinking.
I went through a fan craze on my old CM Centurion 5, had 7 fans in it. Also went through a period of time where I had two 130CFM fans on my cooler.godhandiscen said:
After a bit I decided to mess around with my side intake and mount a 120mm in the drive bays.
Basically what I learned is that no matter what fancy set-up (or air-flow diagram) you have it basically comes down to a good in and out. As long as some cool intake flows nicely to the outtake it works and works well.
When I had 2 80mm blowing on my GPU I totally though my temps would go down, but they just churned the air around (I would think) as my temps didn't go anywhere.
*From the pic it looks like the waterblock already has a 38mm on it which is good because you need pressure to push air past the fins.
Minsc
Gold Member
Anandtech 920 vs 860 benches.
Surprising, to me anyway. Thought the ghz advantage would have meant more than it does.. Means I should update my little ranking thing I did earlier (which was a guess, now it's good to have some benches to go by). So here's how it looks to me now (from slowest to fastest):
$200 - Core i5 750
$290 - Core i7 860
$280 - Core i7 920
$570 - Core i7 870
$570 - Core i7 950
$1100 - Core i7 965
Surprising, to me anyway. Thought the ghz advantage would have meant more than it does.. Means I should update my little ranking thing I did earlier (which was a guess, now it's good to have some benches to go by). So here's how it looks to me now (from slowest to fastest):
$200 - Core i5 750
$290 - Core i7 860
$280 - Core i7 920
$570 - Core i7 870
$570 - Core i7 950
$1100 - Core i7 965
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Is anyone able to help me with my overclocking problems?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Hawkian said:
Any idea why the long beep and it not booting when just going from 1333 to 1350? That's barely anything so I can't be pushing it hard.
MoFuzz
Member
I was so happy after having sucessfully built a budget rig for my GF using my old Sonata II case I had lying around. It ran flawlessly for well over 2 months, but now I'm noticing that Windows freezes periodcally after being idle for an undetermined amount of time.
Specs are:
Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5 Ghz - oc'ed to 3.33 Ghz
Xigmatek S-1283 Direct Touch 3 CPU Heatsink
4GB DDR2 Corsair RAM
Gigabyte EP45-UD3L
ASUS 9600 GSO 384MB GPU - also oc'ed, forget the specs off hand
Windows XP Pro SP3
Sonata II case with 450W Antec SmartPower PSU
I initially thought it may have been an overheating CPU or GPU, but temps seem well within normal range. CPU idles at about 30, under load 35, while GPU idles at 51 and under load 70.
Also, if it was heat related, wouldn't more stressing tasks like gaming cause the lock-up? Typically Windows would use the least amount of power and resources no?
The funny thing is that it can handle games, surf the web, play videos fine for hours on end with no problems. However, if you leave it for say 1 or 2 hours and let the screen saver come up, it will freeze up and display some odd looking pixels across the screen. The only option at this point is hitting the restart button on the tower.
Help me Obi-Gaf-enobi, you're my only hope!
Specs are:
Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5 Ghz - oc'ed to 3.33 Ghz
Xigmatek S-1283 Direct Touch 3 CPU Heatsink
4GB DDR2 Corsair RAM
Gigabyte EP45-UD3L
ASUS 9600 GSO 384MB GPU - also oc'ed, forget the specs off hand
Windows XP Pro SP3
Sonata II case with 450W Antec SmartPower PSU
I initially thought it may have been an overheating CPU or GPU, but temps seem well within normal range. CPU idles at about 30, under load 35, while GPU idles at 51 and under load 70.
Also, if it was heat related, wouldn't more stressing tasks like gaming cause the lock-up? Typically Windows would use the least amount of power and resources no?
The funny thing is that it can handle games, surf the web, play videos fine for hours on end with no problems. However, if you leave it for say 1 or 2 hours and let the screen saver come up, it will freeze up and display some odd looking pixels across the screen. The only option at this point is hitting the restart button on the tower.
Help me Obi-Gaf-enobi, you're my only hope!
Doesn't sound right. Your RAM voltage is what it should be?Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Didn't change any settings or RAM ratios?
That can't be right, use Realtemp or CoreTemp along with ORTHOS, Prime95, or whatever.MoFuzz said:
Also run memtest and a HDD diagnostic tool, usually your manufacturer will have the program on their website.
brain_stew
Member
MoFuzz said:
I assume you've tried reinstalling Windows right?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Hazaro said:
I have it as linked and I changed the ratio from auto to 1:1 and have also tried 5:4.