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Official Little King's Story Thread of Tiny Conquistadors
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well, there's a quote somewhere in here with the developers word on the lack of pointer controls, that they didn't seem necessary or something like that. if they make another, it would be a good thing to implement.Amir0x said:
the Conduit. IGN was in the end credits for special thanks, likely for pushing the game like they did.sonicmj1 said:
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Amir0x said:
Well, yes it's an opinion - but I'd count it an error to throw that in as a negative point in a reasoned review without going at least some way to saying why he considers it lacklustre.
The Eurogamer review at least goes some way to explaining the difference between the surface reading and the undercurrents of the story(http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/little-kings-story-review).
More generally, I rather wish someone would review LKS without starting off with Pikmin/Harvest Moon comparisons - which seem to set them off on the wrong tack.
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Amir0x said:
After playing Overlord on the Wii and playing this for an hour last night... I was really bumming that there was no pointing.
I don't think that pointer controls would integrate perfectly into the game as it exists today. There are just too many different units to juggle. They obviously made the decision to go the way they did fairly early in the process.
It would be great if they had the chance to make a sequel with pointer controls and a more manageable number of units.
It would be great if they had the chance to make a sequel with pointer controls and a more manageable number of units.
Amir0x said:
Meh. You get used to it, but I agree that it was certainly an odd decision.
Anyway, I bought the game used for £18 last week, sunk around six or seven hours in, but haven't played it since.
In reality, I'm scared to. I didn't realise that quests had time limits, so I signed up for five at once, and now I've got two to do "tomorrow" (in in-game time), and one to do the day after. I don't want to not do them, either. Everything was going pretty nigh-on perfect as well, until I forgot about a villager who washed up on shore. Apparently she died, and when the new day started people were walking around wearing black... ;(
Otherwise, the game is great. It was worryingly linear in the beginning, but then it really opened up. Great stuff, truly.
Otherwise, the game is great. It was worryingly linear in the beginning, but then it really opened up. Great stuff, truly.
Amir0x said:
If I'm honest it's me being nitpicky, but considering I completed the game over two months ago and this review has only just been written I wish they wouldn't get stuff wrong like the number of kings in the game for example. It makes me wonder how much attention they paid And him saying people cower in fear when you collect taxes just seems like something he made up. I collected them all the time and never saw that, it didn't really seem to affect the populace at all.
Yes, that was one of my favourite things about it. Dunno if the game would last you a few months, it depends on how often and long you play it and how much side-stuff you do.
Btw Gerg I wouldn't worry about the time running out on the some of the side-quests since they get repeated a lot throughout the game. I don't think there's anything you can miss out on.
You constantly expand your town to get more buildings where you can recruit new units. The enemy types keep changing, and they're not just stronger rehashes of the same enemies in the first area. So yeah, the core gameplay mechanic remains constant, but it keeps building on that, forcing you to re-evaluate your gameplay strategy at each new area.hampig said:
It should keep you occupied for a while, especially if you want to do all the collection quests.
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Amir0x said:
I've been pondering this a bit, since I've enjoyed the Pikmin reworkings and had the same initial reaction. But I suspect it wouldn't work as well in LKS - the reason being that movement is *very* tight especially in areas you have built up. That's a design thing, it really helps with the sense of scale - but on reflection it wouldn't be as easy to navigate with the pointer.
The other aspect is aiming, where you need line-of-sight for both of (a) having your troops run to whereever-it-is and (b) shooting arrows. The straight-line targetting works well for this and you can immediately see what is in the way - again I'm not certain that pointer control would really have made it any easier. The more open landscapes in Pikmin are what makes the pointer use so intuitive.
I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, but my suspicion is to make pointer work really effectively they might have had to compromise on something else that they didn't want to compromise on.
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I assume that everyone finished it, but there have been a lot of reviews that criticized on the story. This company ALWAYS knocks the story out of the park. That's why I play their games.
I have the thesaurus.com pages for "imbecile," "abomination," and "inferno" favorited.
"I'll admit firsthand..." That doesn't... Oh, REVIEW errors:
Majora said:
I have the thesaurus.com pages for "imbecile," "abomination," and "inferno" favorited.
Amir0x said:
"I'll admit firsthand..." That doesn't... Oh, REVIEW errors:
Majora said:
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hampig said:
It's a game that you can take quite slowly - in fact it is probably better that way, as some of the conversations get rather monotonous once you hit the endgame, so you are better off picking off the side quest stuff as you go along. If you do that, and have at least one out of three of job/family/social life to keep you otherwise occupied I would says there's a couple of months worth in there.
There are certainly depths to explore. For example, you can find out at any time just how many citizens love or hate you or are indifferent - but there's absolutely no indication why. If you want to keep all your citizens happy it is entirely up to you to find out and fix whatever it is, and there is no shortcut to that in the game, not that I can find anyway. But if you happen to talk to an unhappy citizen you'll get an earful in reply.
New stuff crops up both in a structured way through new game areas, and through random quests and exploring, and through the building you do - the pacing depends very much on what you choose to build/explore/tackle. Take on too much too fast and you will find, like me, that you have to become very adept at running away.
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Majora said:
Agreed - they don't cower in fear. They just stay inside their house and pay up. He made that bit up.
I'm less certain as to whether it affects them somehow - I think that if you hit the same house too much for tax that is one of the things that makes the citizens dislike you.
i think they might just have reviewed the UK version for the US. it's not like it's all that different.GhaleonQ said:
good point, though knowing them, especially after the NMH review, they'll probably end up complaining about controls/visual style/not being Pikmen. i'll give em the benefit of the doubt until they actually have it up.
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one_kill said:
They might (or might not) complain about it, but I don't think it is true - not for me anyway. It is so long since I started that I have forgotten what the kingdom looked like before I built on every last square inch of it.
It'll be a bit like going on an archaeological dig playing it through again with foresight.
The best comparison I can give, I think, is Psychonauts. While the base gameplay remains mostly unchanged throughout, there's such creativity in some of the setpieces that it always feels inventive; the boss battles in particular have so many memorable moments in them.hampig said:
IGN Review is up (They stuck by their word that The Conduit is better than LKS!)
Still a good score though
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IGN review
IGN has posted their review. Gave it an 8.5.
Basically, great game, lacks pointer controls, has very soft graphics (should be nice for my LCD :lol ). It also has public domain music, which sounds really disappointing. Regardless, I have no regrets on my pre-order
EDIT: Beaten. Oh well.
IGN has posted their review. Gave it an 8.5.
Basically, great game, lacks pointer controls, has very soft graphics (should be nice for my LCD :lol ). It also has public domain music, which sounds really disappointing. Regardless, I have no regrets on my pre-order
EDIT: Beaten. Oh well.
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Oxx said:
Yoko Shimomura did 2 songs. www.originalsoundversion.com/?p=3115 Yutaka Minobe (Skies Of Arcadia) arranged it.
And that's off of the top of my head. To the review!