Rorschach said:Yeah, it's still money, but it looks like FB dive isn't. Suck it down, DM!
Dms bread and butter is gone. What will he do now that he can't rely on his FB to bail him out on every 3rd and short???!? :lol
Rorschach said:Yeah, it's still money, but it looks like FB dive isn't. Suck it down, DM!
Mrbob said:Dms bread and butter and is gone. What will he do now that he can't rely on his FB to bail him out on every 3rd and short???!? :lol
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Mrbob said:You need to understand the tools of the trade to TE cheese.
I don't know if you are worthy of becoming my apprentice and learning the craft. Only the best of the best are allowed in the school!
Rhetorical question? Doesn't everyone have those two tattooed on their chest?!Rorschach said:Why are John Madden and Whoopie Goldberg on his chest?
Mrbob said:You need to understand the tools of the trade to TE cheese.
I don't know if you are worthy of becoming my apprentice and learning the craft. Only the best of the best are allowed in the school!
Shawnwhann said:You think you're dealing with Al Davis or Carmen Policy here?!?
Fix that deal to include a real player like TJ, Curry, Tatupu, or Trufant and we may get somewhere!
bluemax said:I'd like to see a comparison of your TE receiving yards vs mine.
FrenchMovieTheme said:mrbob hasn't been relevant in madden since madden 2006. before that and SINCE Then he had a legacy of blown games and playoff apperances. don't mind him!
FrenchMovieTheme said:mrbob hasn't been relevant in madden since madden 2006. before that and SINCE Then he had a legacy of blown games and playoff apperances. don't mind him!
Antonio Gates led the league in receptions with 67 and was 9th in receiving yards with 734. Oh, and he was also 10th in YAC.bluemax said:I'd like to see a comparison of your TE receiving yards vs mine.
Rorschach said:Antonio Gates led the league in receptions with 67 and was 9th in receiving yards with 734. Oh, and he was also 10th in YAC.
None of the Bears players were even on the radar.
Will it be effective? Maybe. As effective as Gates? Highly doubtful.bluemax said:I wonder if one of my favorite third down tactics will be as effective with Carlson!
Mrbob said:Hey how did you last madden season go? Sub .500 was it, right?! Did you even scratch out 7 wins?
I'm still making the playoffs on a regular basis, and if you go to the playoffs enough times you are bound to have some luck!
You're the one missing out on recreating a lil something special. Reuniting Julius Jones and Marion Barber would essentially make you guys the Cowboys of the north!bluemax said:I'd like to see a comparison of your TE receiving yards vs mine.
Russell is the first player with a GRT rating of 100. You're missing out.
Potential 2010 free agents.
QB Kyle Orton - Broncos
QB Brett Ratliff - Browns (RFA)
QB Brian St. Pierre - Cardinals
QB Philip Rivers - Chargers
QB Charlie Whitehurst - Chargers
QB Brodie Croyle - Chiefs
QB Jon Kitna - Cowboys
QB Chad Pennington - Dolphins
QB Chris Redman - Falcons
QB DJ Shockley - Falcons
QB Eli Manning - Giants
QB David Carr - Giants
QB Kellen Clemens - Jets
QB Daunte Culpepper - Lions
QB Josh McCown - Panthers
QB Matt Moore - Panthers (RFA)
QB Matt Gutierrez - Patriots (RFA)
QB Jeff Garcia - Raiders
QB Andrew Walter - Raiders
QB Kyle Boller - Rams
QB Brock Berlin - Rams (RFA)
QB Troy Smith - Ravens (RFA)
QB John Beck - Ravens
QB Jason Campbell - Redskins
QB Mark Brunell - Saints
QB Joey Harrington - Saints
QB Charlie Batch - Steelers
QB Rex Grossman - Texans
QB Patrick Ramsey - Titans
QB Tarvaris Jackson - Vikings
RB Thomas Clayton - 49ers (RFA)
RB Adrian Peterson - Bears
RB Kenny Watson - Bengals
RB Daniel Coats - Bengals (RFA)
RB Jerome Harrison - Browns
RB Lawrence Vickers - Browns
RB Cadillac Williams - Bucs
RB Clifton Smith - Bucs
RB Dan Krieder - Cardinals
RB Darren Sproles - Chargers
RB Mike Tolbert - Chargers (ERFA)
RB Kolby Smith - Chiefs
RB Mike Cox - Chiefs (ERFA)
RB Alonzo Coleman - Cowboys (ERFA)
RB Ronnie Brown - Dolphins
RB Ricky Williams - Dolphins
RB Lousaka Polite - Dolphins
RB Leonard Weaver - Eagles
RB Jerius Norwood - Falcons
RB Jason Snelling - Falcons (RFA)
RB Danny Ware - Giants
RB Alvin Pearman - Jaguars
RB Leon Washington - Jets
RB Tony Richardson - Jets
RB Terrelle Smith - Lions
RB Kevin Faulk - Patriots
RB Lorenzo Neal - Raiders
RB Luke Lawton - Raiders
RB Kenneth Darby - Rams (RFA)
RB Antonio Pittman - Rams (RFA)
RB LeRon McClain - Ravens (RFA)
RB Mike Sellers - Redskins
RB Pierre Thomas - Saints (RFA)
RB Mike Bell - Saints
RB Justin Griffith - Seahawks
RB Willie Parker - Steelers
RB Carey Davis - Steelers (RFA)
RB Chris Brown - Texans
RB Ryan Moats - Texans
RB LenDale White - Titans
RB Chester Taylor - Vikings
RB Naufahu Tahi - Vikings
WR Isaac Bruce - 49ers
WR Arnaz Battle - 49ers
WR Chris Henry - Bengals
WR Terrell Owens - Bills
WR Josh Reed - Bills
WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos
WR Chad Jackson - Broncos
WR Braylon Edwards - Browns
WR Syndric Steptoe - Browns (RFA)
WR Antonio Bryant - Bucs
WR Maurice Stovall - Bucs
WR Steve Breaston - Cardinals (RFA)
WR Jerheme Urban - Cardinals
WR Kelley Washington - Cardinals
WR Vincent Jackson - Chargers
WR Chris Chambers - Chargers
WR Malcolm Floyd - Chargers
WR Kassim Osgood - Chargers
WR Mark Bradley - Chiefs
WR Jeff Webb - Chiefs
WR Miles Austin - Cowboys
WR Sam Hurd - Cowboys
WR Davone Bess - Dolphins
WR Brandon London - Dolphins (RFA)
WR Jason Avant - Eagles
WR Hank Baskett - Eagles
WR Roddy White - Falcons
WR Brian Finneran - Falcons
WR Domenik Hixon - Giants
WR Sinorice Moss - Giants
WR Troy Williamson - Jaguars
WR Brad Smith - Jets
WR David Clowney - Jets (RFA)
WR Ronald Curry - Lions
WR Ruvell Martin - Packers
WR Muhsin Muhammad - Panthers
WR Kenneth Moore - Panthers (ERFA)
WR Joey Galloway - Patriots
WR Sam Aiken - Patriots
WR Derek Stanley - Rams
WR Derrick Mason - Ravens
WR Mark Clayton - Ravens
WR Demetrius Williams - Ravens
WR Yamon Figurs - Ravens (RFA)
WR James Thrash - Redskins
WR Lance Moore - Saints
WR Ben Obomanu - Seahawks
WR Kevin Walter - Texans
TE Reggie Kelly - Bengals
TE Derek Shouman - Bills (RFA)
TE Tony Scheffler - Broncos
TE Leonard Pope - Cardinals
TE Anthony Becht - Cardinals
TE Ben Patrick - Cardinals (RFA)
TE Stephen Spach - Cardinals (RFA)
TE Brandon Manumaleuna - Chargers
TE Kris Wilson - Chargers
TE Anthony Fasano - Dolphins
TE David Martin - Dolphins
TE Joey Haynos - Dolphins (ERFA)
TE Michael Matthews - Giants (RFA)
TE Greg Estandia - Jaguars
TE Wayne Hunter - Jets
TE Will Heller - Lions
TE Casey Fitzsimmons - Lions
TE Tory Humphrey - Packers
TE Jeff King - Panthers
TE Ben Watson - Patriots
TE Alex Smith - Patriots
TE David Thomas - Patriots
TE Randy McMichael - Rams
TE Daniel Fells - Rams
TE Joe Klopfenstein - Rams
TE L.J. Smith - Ravens
TE Quinn Sypniewski - Ravens
TE Todd Yoder - Redskins
TE Billy Miller - Saints
TE Dan Campbell - Saints
TE Heath Miller - Steelers
TE Matt Spaeth - Steelers
TE Owen Daniels - Texans
TE Alge Crumpler - Titans
TE Bo Scaife - Titans
TE Garrett Mills - Vikings (RFA)
OT Barry Sims - 49ers
OT Dennis Roland - Bengals (RFA)
OT Isaac Sowells - Browns
OT George Foster - Browns
OT Ryan Tucker - Browns
OT Donald Penn - Bucs
OT Jeremy Trueblood - Bucs
OT Anthony Alabi - Bucs
OT Mike Gandy - Cardinals
OT Elliot Vallejo - Cardinals (RFA)
OT Marcus McNeill - Chargers
OT Jeromy Clark - Chargers (RFA)
OT LJ Shelton - Chargers
OT Herb Taylor - Chiefs (RFA)
OT Corey Hilliard - Colts (RFA)
OT Michael Toudouze - Colts
OT Pat McQuistan - Cowboys
OT Brandon Frye - Dolphins (RFA)
OT Winston Justice - Eagles
OT Tyson Clabo - Falcons
OT Quinn Ojinnaka - Falcons
OT Guy Whimper - Giants
OT Jon Jansen - Lions
OT Chad Clifton - Packers
OT Tony Moll - Packers
OT Nick Kaczur - Patriots
OT Ryan O'Callaghan - Patriots
OT Wesley Britt - Patriots
OT Khalif Barnes - Raiders
OT Cornell Green - Raiders
OT Alex Barron - Rams
OT Jared Gaither - Ravens (RFA)
OT Adam Terry - Ravens
OT Stephon Heyer - Redskins (RFA)
OT Zach Strief - Saints
OT Jermon Bushrod - Saints (RFA)
OT Kyle Williams - Seahawks (ERFA)
OT Willie Colon - Steelers
OT Rashad Butler - Texans
OT Ryan Cook - Vikings
OG David Baas - 49ers
OG Dan Buenning - Bears
OG Bobbie Williams - Bengals
OG Scott Kooistra - Bengals
OG Nate Livings - Bengals (RFA)
OG Ben Hamilton - Broncos
OG Chris Kuper - Broncos
OG Pat Murray - Broncos (RFA)
OG Kurt Quarterman - Browns (RFA)
OG Rex Hadnot - Browns
OG Deuce Lutui - Cardinals
OG Elton Brown - Cardinals
OG Wade Smith - Chiefs
OG Charlie Johnson - Colts
OG Cory Procter - Cowboys
OG Montrae Holland - Cowboys
OG Andy Alleman - Dolphins (RFA)
OG Max Jean-Gilles - Eagles
OG Harvey Dahl - Falcons
OG Ben Wilkerson - Falcons
OG Kevin Boothe - Giants
OG Daniel Loper - Lions
OG Damion Cook - Lions
OG Manuel Ramirez - Lions
OG Daryn Colledge - Packers
OG Jason Spitz - Packers
OG Keydrick Vincent - Panthers
OG Stephen Neal - Patriots
OG Russ Hochstein - Patriots
OG Paul McQuistan - Raiders
OG Chris Morris - Raiders (RFA)
OG Richie Incognito - Rams
OG Jahri Evans - Saints
OG Rob Sims - Seahawks
OG Darnell Stapleton - Steelers
OG Chester Pitts - Texans
OG Mike Brisiel - Texans (RFA)
OG Eugene Amano - Titans
OG Artis Hicks - Vikings
C Kyle Cook - Bengals (RFA)
C Lyle Sendlein - Cardinals (ERFA)
C Ben Claxton - Cardinals
C Rudy Niswanger - Chiefs
C Nick Cole - Eagles
C Jeremy Newberry - Falcons
C Dennis Norman - Jaguars
C Robert Turner - Jets (RFA)
C Dylan Gandy - Lions
C Al Johnson - Patriots
C John Wade - Raiders
C Chris Chester - Ravens
C Nick Leckey - Saints
C Chris Spencer - Seahawks
C Justin Hartwig - Steelers
C Kevin Mawae - Titans
DE Adewale Ogunleye - Bears
DE Mark Anderson - Bears
DE Frostee Rucker - Bengals
DE Ryan Denney - Bills
DE Jimmy Wilkerson - Bucs
DE Ian Scott - Chargers
DE Marcus Spears - Cowboys
DE Jason Hatcher - Cowboys
DE Stephen Bowen - Cowboys
DE David Tollefson - Giants (RFA)
DE Reggie Hayward - Jaguars
DE Jeremy Mincey - Jaguars
DE Mike DeVito - Jets (RFA)
DE Ryan Pickett - Packers
DE Alfred Malone - Packers
DE Julius Peppers - Panthers
DE Tyler Brayton - Panthers
DE Richard Seymour - Patriots
DE Jarvis Green - Patriots
DE Derrick Burgess - Raiders
DE Greyson Gunheim - Raiders (ERFA)
DE Leonard Little - Rams
DE James Hall - Rams
DE Victor Adeyanju - Rams
DE Dwan Edwards - Ravens
DE Justin Bannan - Ravens
DE Renaldo Wynn - Redskins
DE Phillip Daniels - Redskins
DE Paul Spicer - Saints
DE Darryl Tapp - Seahawks
DE Travis Kirschke - Steelers
DE Kyle Vanden Bosch - Titans
DE Jevon Kearse - Titans
DE Dave Ball - Titans
DE Ray Edwards - Vikings
DT Aubrayo Franklin - 49ers
DT Dusty Dvoracek - Bears (RFA)
DT Tank Johnson - Bengals
DT Bryan Robinson - Cardinals
DT Gabe Watson - Cardinals
DT Tank Tyler - Chiefs (RFA)
DT Antonio Johnson - Colts (RFA)
DT Junior Siavii - Cowboys
DT Jason Ferguson - Dolphins
DT Amon Gordon - Eagles
DT Barry Cofield - Giants
DT Fred Robbins - Giants
DT Atiyyah Ellison - Jaguars
DT Johnny Jolly - Packers
DT Nick Hayden - Panthers (ERFA)
DT Vince Wilfork - Patriots
DT Clifton Ryan - Rams
DT Orien Harris - Rams (RFA)
DT Anthony Montgomery - Redskins
DT Kendric Golston - Redskins
DT Lorenzo Alexander - Redskins (RFA)
DT Kendrick Clancy - Saints
DT Rod Coleman - Saints
DT Casey Hampton - Steelers
DT Travis Johnson - Texans
DT Deljaun Robinson - Texans (RFA)
DT Tony Brown - Titans
DT Fred Evans - Vikings
LB Marques Harris - 49ers
LB Jeff Ulbrich - 49ers
LB Nick Roach - Bears (RFA)
LB Pisa Tinoisamoa - Bears
LB Jamar Williams - Bears
LB Rashad Jeanty - Bengals
LB Brandon Johnson - Bengals
LB Darryl Blackstock - Bengals
LB Pat Thomas - Bills
LB Elvis Dumervil - Broncos
LB Nick Greisen - Broncos
LB D'Qwell Jackson - Browns
LB Leon Williams - Browns
LB Angelo Crowell - Bucs
LB Jermaine Phillips - Bucs
LB Barrett Ruud - Bucs
LB Chike Okefor - Cardinals
LB Bert Berry - Cardinals
LB Karlos Dansby - Cardinals
LB Victor Hobson - Cardinals
LB Shawne Merriman - Chargers
LB Tim Dobbins - Chargers
LB Mike Vrabel - Chiefs
LB Andy Studebaker - Chiefs
LB Derrick Johnson - Chiefs
LB Zack Thomas - Chiefs
LB Gary Brackett - Colts
LB Adam Seward - Colts
LB DeMarcus Ware - Cowboys
LB Matt Roth - Dolphins
LB Jason Taylor - Dolphins
LB William Kershaw - Dolphins (RFA)
LB Chris Gocong - Eagles
LB Akeem Jordan - Eagles (RFA)
LB Omar Gaither - Eagles
LB Tank Daniels - Eagles (RFA)
LB Danny Clark - Giants
LB Chase Blackburn - Giants
LB Clint Ingram - Jaguars
LB Tim Shaw - Jaguars (RFA)
LB Marques Murrell - Jets (RFA)
LB Jason Trusnik - Jets (ERFA)
LB Larry Izzo - Jets (RFA)
LB Alex Lewis - Lions
LB Larry Foote - Lions
LB Aaron Kampman - Packers
LB Brandon Chillar - Packers
LB Thomas Davis - Panthers
LB James Anderson - Panthers
LB Pierre Woods - Patriots
LB Tully Banta-Cain - Patriots
LB Tedy Bruschi - Patriots
LB Gary Guyton - Patriots (ERFA)
LB Thomas Howard - Raiders
LB Ricky Brown - Raiders
LB Jon Alston - Raiders
LB Kirk Morrison - Raiders
LB Quinton Culberson - Rams (RFA)
LB Chris Draft - Rams
LB Terrell Suggs - Ravens (FP)
LB Antwan Barnes - Ravens (RFA)
LB Jameel McClain - Ravens (ERFA)
LB Rocky McIntosh - Redskins
LB Robert Thomas - Redskins
LB Scott Fujita - Saints
LB Marvin Mitchell - Saints
LB DD Lewis - Seahawks
LB Kevin Hobbs - Seahawks (RFA)
LB Lance Loury - Seahawks
LB Cato June - Texans
LB DeMeco Ryans - Texans
LB Chaun Thompson - Texans
LB Keith Bullock - Titans
LB Stephen Tulloch - Titans
CB Dre Bly - 49ers
CB Walt Harris - 49ers
CB David Jones - Bengals (RFA)
CB Geoffrey Pope - Bengals (RFA)
CB Simeon Castille - Bengals (ERFA)
CB Terrence McGee - Bills
CB Ashton Youboty - Bills
CB Josh Bell - Broncos (ERFA)
CB Rod Hood - Browns
CB Corey Ivy - Browns
CB Elbert Mack - Bucs (ERFA)
CB Ralph Brown - Cardinals
CB Michael Adams - Cardinals
CB Cletis Gordon - Chargers
CB Maurice Leggett - Chiefs (ERFA)
CB Marlin Jackson - Colts
CB Tim Jennings - Colts
CB Alan Ball - Cowboys
CB Nathan Jones - Dolphins
CB Ellis Hobbs - Eagles
CB Brent Grimes - Falcons
CB Kevin Dockery - Giants
CB Drew Coleman - Jets
CB Anthony Henry - Lions
CB Keith Smith - Lions
CB Tramon Williams - Packers
CB Will Blackmon - Packers
CB Richard Marshall - Panthers
CB C.J. Wilson - Panthers (RFA)
CB Leigh Bodden - Patriots
CB Stanford Routt - Raiders
CB Jonathan Wade - Rams (RFA)
CB Fabian Washington - Ravens
CB Frank Walker - Ravens
CB Carlos Rogers - Redskins
CB Usama Young - Saints (RFA)
CB Ken Lucas - Seahawks
CB William Gay - Steelers
CB Deshea Townsend - Steelers
CB Dunta Robinson - Texans (FP)
CB Nick Harper - Titans
CB Antoine Winfield - Vikings
CB Charles Gordon - Vikings
CB Karl Paymah - Vikings
S Mark Roman - 49ers
S Josh Bullocks - Bears
S Danieal Manning - Bears
S Roy Williams - Bengals
S Kyries Hebert - Bengals (RFA)
S Ko Simpson - Bills
S Bryan Scott - Bills
S George Wilson - Bills
S Josh Barrett - Broncos (ERFA)
S Brodney Pool - Browns
S Abram Elam - Browns
S Will Allen - Bucs
S Donte Nicholson - Bucs
S Matt Ware - Cardinals
S Bernard Pollard - Chiefs
S Jarrad Page - Chiefs
S Antoine Bethea - Colts
S Melvin Bullitt - Colts (RFA)
S Matt Giordano - Colts
S TJ Rushing - Colts
S Gerald Sensabaugh - Cowboys
S Pat Watkins - Cowboys
S Sean Jones - Eagles
S Antoine Harris - Falcons
S CC Brown - Giants
S Calvin Lowry - Jaguars
S Eric Smith - Jets
S Daniel Bullocks - Lions
S Nick Collins - Packers
S Atari Bigby - Packers
S Charlie Peprah - Packers
S Nate Salley - Panthers
S Quinton Teal - Panthers (RFA)
S Tank Williams - Patriots
S Ray Ventrone - Patriots (RFA)
S Hiram Eugene - Raiders
S Tyvon Branch - Raiders
S OJ Atogwe - Rams
S Eric Bassey - Rams (RFA)
S Dawan Landry - Ravens
S Reed Doughty - Redskins
S Roman Harper - Saints
S Darren Sharper - Saints
S CJ Wallace - Seahawks (RFA)
S Ryan Clark - Steelers
S Tyrone Carter - Steelers
S Nick Ferguson - Texans
S Donnie Nickey - Titans
S Eric Frampton - Vikings (RFA)
K Shayne Graham - Bengals
K Matt Prater - Broncos (RFA)
K Mike Nugent - Bucs
K Neil Rackers - Cardinals
K Connor Barth - Chiefs
K Dan Carpenter - Dolphins (ERFA)
K Jay Feely - Jets
K Stephen Gostkowski - Patriots
K Sebastian Janikowski - Raiders
K Shaun Suisham - Redskins
K Garrett Hartley - Saints
K Olindo Mare - Seahawks
K Jeff Reed - Steelers
P Brad Maynard - Bears
P Sav Rocca - Eagles (RFA)
P Michael Koenen - Falcons
P Jeff Feagles - Giants
P Jeremy Kapinos - Packers
P Sam Koch - Ravens
P Hunter Smith - Redskins
P Jon Ryan - Seahawks
P Daniel Sepulveda - Steelers (RFA)
P Matt Turk - Texans
P Craig Hentrich - Titans
GQman2121 said:This contract/cap thing is really getting to me. The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get. They're clearly holding it back so they don't blow their load all in the same season.
Look at all of the players who are entering 2009' with expiring contracts. What fun this mode could have been........
GQman2121 said:This contract/cap thing is really getting to me. The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get. They're clearly holding it back so they don't blow their load all in the same season.
DMczaf said:....yes, that's clearly what they did.
Did I accidently fall into Operation Sports?
FrenchMovieTheme said:kudos to tiburon i say!
DMczaf said:....yes, that's clearly what they did.
Did I accidently fall into Operation Sports?
You mean like an active neighborhood? :lolGQman2121 said:I agree that they've been more than open about the entire process of developing this years game. But I'm also not blaming the Tiburon team directly either. A decision like this could easily come down from Redwood. Not that I'm one for conspiracies. But I wouldn't put it past any huge corp. who's lively hood is based on selling units and is also the only game in town.
I highly, highly doubt that. With the wording they have given in recent interviews, I think that it's gonna go the way of the 09 DLC. It seems like a daunting task to actually do it, and then it would "break" all the leagues that would be going on when they patch it (unless they made it an option). In addition to that, you get the backlash from people having to reset their leagues because they want contracts/cap. It's best to not even think of it as a possibility and formulate alternatives now.Striker said:Weren't they saying they'll conduct a patch quickly for the CAP and contract lengths?
Rorschach said:I highly, highly doubt that. With the wording they have given in recent interviews, I think that it's gonna go the way of the 09 DLC. It seems like a daunting task to actually do it, and then it would "break" all the leagues that would be going on when they patch it (unless they made it an option). In addition to that, you get the backlash from people having to reset their leagues because they want contracts/cap. It's best to not even think of it as a possibility and formulate alternatives now.
Yep. I have zero faith that they will actually patch any of those things into the game. I think the "Don't worry, it's possible for us to patch it in!" line is just to appease those of us that are annoyed by the absence of what seem to be pretty standard features of an online league.
Imagine if NCAA online came out without recruiting or graduation.
DenogginizerOS said:You mean like an active neighborhood? :lol
Well, I'm not saying that it's impossible or that they are holding back. I'm just saying it's better to be prepared than to pray for a miracle.BigAT said:Yep. I have zero faith that they will actually patch any of those things into the game. I think the "Don't worry, it's possible for us to patch it in!" line is just to appease those of us that are annoyed by the absence of what seem to be pretty standard features of an online league.
Imagine if NCAA online came out without recruiting or graduation.
I am very excited about all the changes. I think the fact we don;t have to enter stats is HUGE. As for the lack of a cap and whatnot, I think we just have to accept that this will be more like a fantasy league than a franchise mode and just have fun playing ball. I am actually more interested in the gameplay changes more than anything else.FrenchMovieTheme said:i just think people are losing sight of how big of a 1 year jump this is. this is basically what everyone has always wanted. it is missing a couple of important things but is this better than league daddy or not?
and i'm not an EA apologist like ramirez is! infact, i created a thread a couple years ago dedicated ENTIRELY to bitching at EA for not having online leagues (as if they ever saw it here on gaf anyways)