Azwethinkweiz
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I'm going to disney world next month! I can't wait to see Ferny at his day job.
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Official Madden '16 PS4 Online league thread #2: Blink Daggers and Backflips
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I'm going to disney world next month! I can't wait to see Ferny at his day job.
I'll be there in November, make sure to remind me where he's stationed.
Lots of recommendations here after I asked earlier in the year.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=194409614&highlight=mouse#post194409614
What did you end up getting?
Azwethinkweiz
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I use the logitech G600. I like it.
I fixed the technical problems I was having with my G9X and held onto it for now.
TheLostBigBoss
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G9X is the best mouse, they should have never stopped making them
Lol I don't work at disney.
But hit me up and we can catch a drink. We can even go yell at hookers if you want.
Thought about this one, but was afraid my old ass couldn't learn how to use the keypad on the side. Went with a G502 instead. Some buttons, just not as much. Mostly for the dual mode scroll wheel.
60fps is the desert mirage of video gaming.
Seems like there's only two recommendations: the mouse I already own and the RAT7 ez is in love with. I'll go with eznark's love!
TheLostBigBoss
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DCX
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Perfection!
Just make sure the golem doesn't ever drop any foot slot loot.
congrats man!
Attn: Luke or any other old school WoW raiders.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-story-of-cthun-how-a-wow-boss-drove-raiders-to-madness/
I don't really like how they classify it as Blizzard nerfing C'Thun because it was too hard, as opposed to the reality which is that it was a broken, unbeatable mess initially. Sure they nerfed it a bit in addition to the bug fixes, but it being bugged was the far bigger hurdle.
Also it was hardly the first bit of raid content that was broken and couldn't be beaten upon release. The back half of BWL was impossible for Horde initially because Blizzard only play tested it on Alliance (this is a personal belief I'll hold until the day I die), Chromaggus was effectively unkillable at first because he was bugged (although we were able to get the technical world first on him by bugging out the fight), Thaddius had a technical bug that would randomly cause people to disconnect during the fight and blow up half the raid. I think there was even a version of Ragnaros that no one ever beat.
I still think Four Horsemen in Naxx was the hardest fight in Vanilla. Even after beating I was still stunned we had managed to pull it off. It required such crazy coordination and rotations, more so than C'Thun to me.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-story-of-cthun-how-a-wow-boss-drove-raiders-to-madness/
I don't really like how they classify it as Blizzard nerfing C'Thun because it was too hard, as opposed to the reality which is that it was a broken, unbeatable mess initially. Sure they nerfed it a bit in addition to the bug fixes, but it being bugged was the far bigger hurdle.
Also it was hardly the first bit of raid content that was broken and couldn't be beaten upon release. The back half of BWL was impossible for Horde initially because Blizzard only play tested it on Alliance (this is a personal belief I'll hold until the day I die), Chromaggus was effectively unkillable at first because he was bugged (although we were able to get the technical world first on him by bugging out the fight), Thaddius had a technical bug that would randomly cause people to disconnect during the fight and blow up half the raid. I think there was even a version of Ragnaros that no one ever beat.
I still think Four Horsemen in Naxx was the hardest fight in Vanilla. Even after beating I was still stunned we had managed to pull it off. It required such crazy coordination and rotations, more so than C'Thun to me.
Azwethinkweiz
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I remember having so many issues in raids due to the fact that blizzard balanced around paladin blessings and forgot about the short range on shaman totems. Instead of figuring it out, they went the normal blizzard path and just gave both sides both. But man was WoW a pain for horde during vanilla. Remember when dwarf priests could cast fear ward, completely trivializing Onyxia? Fuck that shit. At least our racial talents gave us an edge in pvp.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Yep, that's exactly what I was referring to with BWL being initially impossible for Horde. It was clearly tested with the Paladin's threat reduction blessing in mind, which Horde didn't even have a totem equivalent of. The absurd, out of the box steps we took to try to get past the drakes...and still couldn't do it. I'm convinced Blizzard never even beat the encounter once internally with a Horde group, which is really awful as far as testing is concerned.
I forgot about that Dwarf Priest racial. It also made Magmadar in MC easier as well.
Also, weren't blessings raid-wide whereas totems only affected the actual party? God, fuck all that.
Stop being lazy splat
I wish I could partake in all of these WoW memories, but I didn't play much vanilla 
I was still big on Everquest 1 at the time and raiding with a lot of friends who then went to Everquest 2 not WoW.
I don't think I really started taking WoW seriously till near the end of Burning Crusade right before Wrath.
I was still big on Everquest 1 at the time and raiding with a lot of friends who then went to Everquest 2 not WoW.
I don't think I really started taking WoW seriously till near the end of Burning Crusade right before Wrath.
That feel though when tremor totem proc'd at the perfect time. :kreygasm:
Do people actually consider Naxx to be Vanilla WoW? Vanilla WoW to me is MC/BWL. Even AQ to a point.
Also, I'm not sure Luke ever killed C'thun now that I think of it. I think he took a break from the game after he opened the gates. I ended up coming out of my own retirement during that time and our guild got one of the world's first Viscidus kills. WOW BLIZZ! A fight where Shaman totems actually gave us a huge advantage for once!
Also, I'm not sure Luke ever killed C'thun now that I think of it. I think he took a break from the game after he opened the gates. I ended up coming out of my own retirement during that time and our guild got one of the world's first Viscidus kills. WOW BLIZZ! A fight where Shaman totems actually gave us a huge advantage for once!
Sure, I consider all of that Vanilla.
We didn't kill C'Thun either. Was working on him when Naxx came out and the fuckers in my guild wanted to go chase the easy loot there instead.
We killed C'Thun not that long after Twin Emps I believe. Twin Emps were fucking hard too.
Oh no. Whoops. I forgot about the original Naxx. I stopped playing around then and missed a lot of that instance.
Yes, pre-TBC is the vanilla era for sure.
Azwethinkweiz
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I think we went back and killed him after we geared up in the first couple wings of Naxx.
I keep thinking of trying WoW out again with Legion coming up, but I just dunno. I would like to find an MMO to play again off and on now that I'm mainly back on PC. I hear FFXIV is great from so many people, but it's never hooked me.
Maybe I'll just go play Project 1999 and relive Everquest and its archaic designs.
Maybe I'll just go play Project 1999 and relive Everquest and its archaic designs.
I missed the first half of progression in AQ 40, but killing Viscidus, Twin Emps, and C'thun for the first time were really satisfying. I loved the chaos of the C'thun fight. The Ventrilo server had 8 channels set up for each party, and then the raid leaders could broadcast to all parties when needed. That kind of coordination is what I miss about the vanilla stuff as hard as it was.
I'm not sure how I would rank all of those vanilla raids. Nostalgia would be a large factor I'm sure.
Azwethinkweiz
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That's because it's easier to remember a couple of cool boss fight mechanics and overlook the hours spent in lvl 40 dungeons farming poison resist gear and an hour of trash to get from twins to C'thun.
I think when people think back to vanilla WoW they give fear ward wayyyyyy more credit than it deserves. It was a multi minute cool down - like 3-4 min?, and the buff went away the first time the wearer was feared.
Once that buff got popped, there was no back up past that. Don't get me wrong, it was great for the initial pull for a lot of fights, but being smart and not being in the wrong spot prevents most of those problems anyways.
My guild was fairly new when BWL was already getting finished by other guilds. We were just starting out MC. But by the time AQ was ready, even though it was someone from another guild that got the gates opened, we were the first to take down C'Thun. Guild had a really hard time keeping people's interest in Naxx knowing BC was coming around. A lot of people wanted a break - that's also when I sold my account. We had a handful of bosses down in there, but no major ones.
AQ was hot garbage. If I have fond memories of anything it's BWL.
Once that buff got popped, there was no back up past that. Don't get me wrong, it was great for the initial pull for a lot of fights, but being smart and not being in the wrong spot prevents most of those problems anyways.
My guild was fairly new when BWL was already getting finished by other guilds. We were just starting out MC. But by the time AQ was ready, even though it was someone from another guild that got the gates opened, we were the first to take down C'Thun. Guild had a really hard time keeping people's interest in Naxx knowing BC was coming around. A lot of people wanted a break - that's also when I sold my account. We had a handful of bosses down in there, but no major ones.
AQ was hot garbage. If I have fond memories of anything it's BWL.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Naxx counts as Vanilla? Good god.
I was in the second horde group on my server to get thru BWL. And yeah it was absurd what we would have to do to get thru a fight compared to allies. BWL and MC where my favorite memories, and standing on the archway in the AQ town.... Forget the name... But you could stand on an archway and range atk people in the city and the guards wouldn't Agro. Me and a couple other hunters would just stand up there and time our aimed shots on allies walking around the town to kill them instantly, and eventually it'd start a war. World PvP moments like that are really my fondest memories.
I was in the second horde group on my server to get thru BWL. And yeah it was absurd what we would have to do to get thru a fight compared to allies. BWL and MC where my favorite memories, and standing on the archway in the AQ town.... Forget the name... But you could stand on an archway and range atk people in the city and the guards wouldn't Agro. Me and a couple other hunters would just stand up there and time our aimed shots on allies walking around the town to kill them instantly, and eventually it'd start a war. World PvP moments like that are really my fondest memories.
Anything that came out before the first expansion is vanilla content. OG naxx was out before burning crusade.
Edit: At a local bar and burger joint. trying a burger at this placecalled the president carter. It has peanut butter on it. It's about to get weird.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Back in my day, anything after BWL wasnt Vanilla...
You're literally the only person I've ever seen say that.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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People referred to a vanilla WoW before the first expansion even came out. At least on Boulderfist.
Cutting it off after BWL is incredibly arbitrary though. If you wanted to say anything after MC, that I could maybe see since it would only be stuff that was in at launch. But BWL was patched in later just the same as AQ and Naxx.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Yeah thats right. After MC isn't Vanilla. But Boulderfist Horde side was so far behind. Rag wasnt even dead by the time BWL came out.
mastershake
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time fer dotes?