PhatSaqs said:The thing is, anytime someone formation shifts someone might supsect them of glitching. Especially if they do it repeatedly during a drive. They could be doing it accidently and not even know the consequences. Sucks ass.
but if I got to, I'm audibling into zone
With ESPN, you just have to layoff of the extreme shifts in direction. I agree it a might be a little too sensitive, but it's definitley manageable. Maddens running game is much better than last years but the pinballing is still there as is the ability to slow down (too effectively) the run out of primarily passing sets (Dime/Quarters). Not to mention the amount of plays that are blown up in the backfield is ridiculous.Ramirez said:Maddens running game is not broke,ESPNs,yes...I fail to see how anyone finds ESPN's momentum while running fun.
No worries. We are on the issue. Watch for an update early next week about a fix.
Thanks,
Nathan F
EA SPORTS Community Producer
I appreciate all the reports of this serious exploit. We, through your help, have identified a game play issue regarding formation switches on offense that could affect the fatigue level of the defense. This issue would affect both online and offline play.
This issue can be resolved in one of two ways. The first is to turn fatigue off; when this option is off, the issue can not be observed or exploited. The second is to audible to your original play (audible L2) if the offense shifts; while this works, it makes it very difficult to make pre-play adjustments, as the audible resets any adjustments.
For online play, we will be patching the servers and disabling fatigue, so that this issue will not be used as an exploit online. This change will be made tomorrow morning at 1 AM PST for both the Xbox and PS2 servers. The update will be invisible to users and will not require a client side patch. Online games will still show fatigue as on but it will really be off. While this isnt a perfect solution, we felt it was the best way to counter the exploit.
We have also modified the settings at the Madden Challenge events and alerted the staff to this so that this issue can not be used as an exploit in the events.
We wanted to make you aware of this so you could inform your members for their normal offline games, and wanted to take this chance to thank you for helping identify this issue and bringing it to light, the power of the community really helps make Madden the great game that it is.
Be sure to send me any questions.
Thanks,
Nathan F
EA SPORTS Community Producer
Bob White said:Bullshit. Now Vick is going to be like fucking superman. FUCK EA. This is my last Madden. This isn't fixing a damn thing. It's just fucking more shit up.
Ramirez said:I've honestly never noticed fatigue in the game anyways...
PhatSaqs said:Wow @ EA. So the idea of playing the game realistically goes entirely out of the window? At least give the players a choice.
Fifty said:Fanboy shit aside...That sucks. I run with Jamal throughout the game, and while this won't change my play style (Since I play with people I know, no way will I run every play with him...even if I could) it still really really bites. Fumbles increase when your players are tired...and now you can just run on every down with an elite RB, and suffer no consequences. Weak.
Cloudy said:Although I'd love to see the reactions if Sega pulled something like this
Cloudy said:I don't see why they couldn't do a HD patch but can you blame them for taking off fatigue? The game would become almost unplayable with random folks once the cheesers got in on it. Anyone who tries to run all game will just meet an equally un-tired defense so it's not that bad IMO.
By give the players a choice (in reference to EAs "solution"), I meant to have the ability to choose to play with fatigue on or off instead of having it done for us.WasabiKing said:Well, you yourself wondered how they were going to do it, and how can you give players a choice? Disable formation shifts?
Ramirez said:GG,btw Matrix
Man your D was in the backfield on every running play,I was like UGH!! -_-
The Broncos suck =\
:lol :lol :lolhgplayer1 said:I wonder if they can explain exactly how this sort of glitch made it into the game? Im no programmer or anything but how exactly does "if formation shift=yes, then defensive players fatigue increase=yes" compute?
Miguel said:I tried out the formation shift thing against my friend yesterday. I warned him ahead of time. I told him I was doing it, he agreed cause he wanted to see if it really worked and how the hell something like that could slip through.
So...I roll out...sit around with Carr for a while. Andre Johnson has 2 guys around him....so I throw to him. Catch, breaks 2 tackles. Runs to the 5, turns around, runs BACK, to the other 1, then runs 99 yards for the touchdown. :lol
Miguel said:I tried out the formation shift thing against my friend yesterday. I warned him ahead of time. I told him I was doing it, he agreed cause he wanted to see if it really worked and how the hell something like that could slip through.
So...I roll out...sit around with Carr for a while. Andre Johnson has 2 guys around him....so I throw to him. Catch, breaks 2 tackles. Runs to the 5, turns around, runs BACK, to the other 1, then runs 99 yards for the touchdown. :lol
Miguel said:Oh yeah, I'm joining a Madden Tourney on Sept 18th. I'll be sure to let them know about this little "trick" cause I'm sure other's know about it, and I'll be damned if I let some cheeser beat me. (Not like it's hard to begin with )
Bowser said:PLZ LET ME NO I CNT GET 1T T00 WRK.
Ramirez said:Im done playin this shit online outside of tournies here.
No one fuckin plays football,they exploit every single flaw in the game.Dude I just played stopped fucking 4 and 5 wide with a 4-3 every fuckin time and had Simeon Rice in the backfield before the snap every fuckin play.Fucking bullshit ass game,EA needs to get their head out of their ass and realize that a fucking LB can't catch up with a WR once their burnt.Everyone has too much recovery speed,doesn't matter what team,like I said a couple days ago,Coakley off the Cowgirls shouldn't be able to shut down fuckin Hines Ward,I mean c'mon.