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Official Madden Season 12 Thread: Welcome Playstation 3 Overlords!
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From the way Pasta Padre describes it on his site, it sounds like a straight up round-robin league setup, so yeah everybody plays everybody by design. Unless they plan on adding another type of setup to the league, that's probably how it's going to be. So in that sense, yeah, it is a glorified tournament.
Fux you Tiburon. :/
Kush 2.0 strikes back.
Hell, at least Kush had real league setup for their games.
Seriously, how do you fail this badly at creating a league? It isn't like the NFL is reinventing itself year over year with its playoff setup!
League Daddy is back for one more year?? :/
Kush 2.0 strikes back.
Hell, at least Kush had real league setup for their games.
Seriously, how do you fail this badly at creating a league? It isn't like the NFL is reinventing itself year over year with its playoff setup!
League Daddy is back for one more year?? :/
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I hope this is all a joke. I really don't want to sit there and enter stats. All I care about is winning.
Yeah I almost want to pass up on this game in protest (Favre on the cover, shitty leagues) but it is madden and I need my yearly fix. :/
Is the 09 Madden league doomed before it starts? I know I'm positively stoked to spend 20 to 30 minutes copying down stats post game and then entering them onto leaguedaddy!
Is the 09 Madden league doomed before it starts? I know I'm positively stoked to spend 20 to 30 minutes copying down stats post game and then entering them onto leaguedaddy!
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
It sounds like stats are in there as long as we set the Unique Rosters setting to ON. However, the schedule thing is still a groaner. But we should be able to track stats. I say we take deep breaths, see how things go, and then if it is absolutely awful, we will go to LD.
32 game seasons minimum! Wow. That stinks.
32 game seasons minimum! Wow. That stinks.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
lets wait until we all have the game.
but if true... fuck you EA. i would have preferred to have no leagues in the game than what you're suggesting.
but if true... fuck you EA. i would have preferred to have no leagues in the game than what you're suggesting.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
ok quick update:
1. there is individual stat tracking as well as team stats. you simply have to play with unique rosters on (i.e. we can't have 2 people using the same team, then whats the point? you could have 10 alex smiths throwing 50 td's)
2. we don't know about the scheduling issue yet.
a work around COULD be we split the league into 2 (16 AFC 16 NFC) and have the winner of each play for the superbowl. this would suck ass because it would almost be like baseball used to be where you don't play the other conference all season.
but lets not get our panties in a twist just yet fellas!
p.s. there is a rumor going around that says the only way you can get the real NFL schedule is if you have 32 people in your league, then it will be activated. who knows if this is true
1. there is individual stat tracking as well as team stats. you simply have to play with unique rosters on (i.e. we can't have 2 people using the same team, then whats the point? you could have 10 alex smiths throwing 50 td's)
2. we don't know about the scheduling issue yet.
a work around COULD be we split the league into 2 (16 AFC 16 NFC) and have the winner of each play for the superbowl. this would suck ass because it would almost be like baseball used to be where you don't play the other conference all season.
but lets not get our panties in a twist just yet fellas!
p.s. there is a rumor going around that says the only way you can get the real NFL schedule is if you have 32 people in your league, then it will be activated. who knows if this is true
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
This is EA just trying to get more people to buy the game. :lolFrenchMovieTheme said:
In all seriousness, while I prefer having the real conferences, there is something strangely appealing to me about being able to play everyone in the league for the regular season. It isn't a true sim, but it does give the cream of the cream a chance to play in the end for the championship. Plus, with flex scheduling, it is conceiveable that 2-3 games could be played in one evening or afternoon. Again, not ideal, but interesting.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
we'll see what happens.
i just don't understand why we can't at least have online leagues that match "league play" in the single player game. look at how sexy the setup for NCAA's dynasty is. it's fucking awesome.
i'm not just talking about the fact that it's online dynasty, but the entire setup is incredible and very user friendly!
for those that don't know (cause it's commish only stuff) the following features are in ncaa: throw out a game result, play for someone as the commish (i.e. bob is playing dm, but bob isn't around and we need to advance, as commish i can fill in for bob very easily just by going to bobs page and clicking on "play game for user").
then you've got all the recruiting stuff, full stat tracking, heisman awards, top rankings, bowl games....
you get all this and madden can't have a fucking 16 game regular season with divisions!? come on EA, what is your flagship title?
i just don't understand why we can't at least have online leagues that match "league play" in the single player game. look at how sexy the setup for NCAA's dynasty is. it's fucking awesome.
i'm not just talking about the fact that it's online dynasty, but the entire setup is incredible and very user friendly!
for those that don't know (cause it's commish only stuff) the following features are in ncaa: throw out a game result, play for someone as the commish (i.e. bob is playing dm, but bob isn't around and we need to advance, as commish i can fill in for bob very easily just by going to bobs page and clicking on "play game for user").
then you've got all the recruiting stuff, full stat tracking, heisman awards, top rankings, bowl games....
you get all this and madden can't have a fucking 16 game regular season with divisions!? come on EA, what is your flagship title?
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
I got the game at lunch time, I will be heading home a little early to see what's up.
Maybe Truelize can mess around in the online league setup a bit to oconfirm these issues?
Typical fucking EA though.
Maybe Truelize can mess around in the online league setup a bit to oconfirm these issues?
Typical fucking EA though.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
http://www.operationsports.com/foru...l-madden-online-leagues-q.html#post2038581850
online leagues EA producer is answer questions at op sports.
i'm marchofthepigs
online leagues EA producer is answer questions at op sports.
i'm marchofthepigs
Shawnwhann
Banned
Ok, here are my first impressions on Madden 09 for the PS3.
Graphically, the game is pretty beautiful! Everything has been upgraded from the stadiums, character models, weather effects (snow is beauuuutiful!), animations and "next-gen" sheen is there. Not quite bullshot trailer from years ago, but it's getting closer. I'm starting to get used to the new ActionCam as it takes a bit of an adjustments to get used to it. My ability to quickly scan the entire field has been impacted as attention is diverted to the line battles and subsequent chaos going on in the trenches. Regarding some more misc. things, Halftime and post game show touches are nice...commentary is worlds better than the "radio guy"... and there are tons of options for subbing in specific players per formation, getting all kinds of on the fly statistical information etc.
Gameplay wise, I'm a little disappointed in my two quick games thus far... It appears that the Madden IQ stuff is pretty borked. I scored "All Madden" in my virtual training on passing and running and it has completely given me a broken game offensively. Dallas has one of the best offensive lines in the game, and watching d-lines from both the Redskins and Tampa Bay cut through it like swiss cheese every play was annoying. It is seriously a problem when Barber has two linemen in his grill as soon as he receives the hand off and it is the rule rather than the exception. It appears because I scored "all Madden" in my IQ test, my o-line essentially decides not to block anymore. As a result the difficulty feels artificial like the game itself is cheating to compensate for what they think are my strengths.
Playcalling wise, the CPU does some past gen bullshit that is infuriating. Say I line up in a Twin I Formation and I call a run, but I notice 9 guys in the box there to snuff out the run....I audible (same formation!) to a Play Action pass...the defense reorients itself to put itself in position to counter the audible pretty effectively. To top it off, I re-audible (again same formation, no alignment changes!) back to the original play and the CPU changes back to their original defense. Hopefully this is something getting fixed as it is a relic of past Madden AI that was decidedly "computer" like....
If NCAA is the one extreme of line protection, Madden in the other in terms of consistent pressure being applied nearly every play. I know both the Redskins and the Bucs blitz quite often, but it sucks getting sacked right after I hike to ball or run a play action fake. I'll play more with the line protections and see if that impacts this issue in a positive way.
I'm hoping the CPU issues are due to the fact I scored so high on my IQ stuff that it gave me the most hellish CPU AI it could possibly throw at me. The game does alot of stuff right, and I'm hoping I can tweak my experience some so that it feels like I'm getting a fair fight when going againt the CPU.
BTW won both games 27-0 (Skins) and 17-14 (Bucs) and it has a nice touch of being able to viist the "Virtual Trainer" after every game to impact your Madden IQ....As of now I'm thinking it may make sense to fail my IQ tests so the CPU plays realistically!
To sum it up, I need more time with the game before my verdict is written. Relative to my first impressions last year, this one falters (overall, not graphically!) compared to the wow factor I got from Madden 08 from the first game!
More tonight!
Graphically, the game is pretty beautiful! Everything has been upgraded from the stadiums, character models, weather effects (snow is beauuuutiful!), animations and "next-gen" sheen is there. Not quite bullshot trailer from years ago, but it's getting closer. I'm starting to get used to the new ActionCam as it takes a bit of an adjustments to get used to it. My ability to quickly scan the entire field has been impacted as attention is diverted to the line battles and subsequent chaos going on in the trenches. Regarding some more misc. things, Halftime and post game show touches are nice...commentary is worlds better than the "radio guy"... and there are tons of options for subbing in specific players per formation, getting all kinds of on the fly statistical information etc.
Gameplay wise, I'm a little disappointed in my two quick games thus far... It appears that the Madden IQ stuff is pretty borked. I scored "All Madden" in my virtual training on passing and running and it has completely given me a broken game offensively. Dallas has one of the best offensive lines in the game, and watching d-lines from both the Redskins and Tampa Bay cut through it like swiss cheese every play was annoying. It is seriously a problem when Barber has two linemen in his grill as soon as he receives the hand off and it is the rule rather than the exception. It appears because I scored "all Madden" in my IQ test, my o-line essentially decides not to block anymore. As a result the difficulty feels artificial like the game itself is cheating to compensate for what they think are my strengths.
Playcalling wise, the CPU does some past gen bullshit that is infuriating. Say I line up in a Twin I Formation and I call a run, but I notice 9 guys in the box there to snuff out the run....I audible (same formation!) to a Play Action pass...the defense reorients itself to put itself in position to counter the audible pretty effectively. To top it off, I re-audible (again same formation, no alignment changes!) back to the original play and the CPU changes back to their original defense. Hopefully this is something getting fixed as it is a relic of past Madden AI that was decidedly "computer" like....
If NCAA is the one extreme of line protection, Madden in the other in terms of consistent pressure being applied nearly every play. I know both the Redskins and the Bucs blitz quite often, but it sucks getting sacked right after I hike to ball or run a play action fake. I'll play more with the line protections and see if that impacts this issue in a positive way.
I'm hoping the CPU issues are due to the fact I scored so high on my IQ stuff that it gave me the most hellish CPU AI it could possibly throw at me. The game does alot of stuff right, and I'm hoping I can tweak my experience some so that it feels like I'm getting a fair fight when going againt the CPU.
BTW won both games 27-0 (Skins) and 17-14 (Bucs) and it has a nice touch of being able to viist the "Virtual Trainer" after every game to impact your Madden IQ....As of now I'm thinking it may make sense to fail my IQ tests so the CPU plays realistically!
To sum it up, I need more time with the game before my verdict is written. Relative to my first impressions last year, this one falters (overall, not graphically!) compared to the wow factor I got from Madden 08 from the first game!
More tonight!
FrenchMovieTheme said:http://www.operationsports.com/foru...l-madden-online-leagues-q.html#post2038581850
online leagues EA producer is answer questions at op sports.
i'm marchofthepigs
Wow...what's the point?
k...dancing around the question...
FUCK. There you have it. No magical 32 man roster fix.
Rorschach said:
So "Flex Schedule" isn't even in fact, a "schedule," at all.
I am really disappointed by this and moreover, wildly disappointed with the press who continuously fail to give this annually massive title it's proper treatment, investigation and coverage. There's much more at play with the title in a given year than "OMG WAT IS THE PLAYUR RATED" and I wish they'd be thorough.
And I thought the guy who decided not to allow custom controls was clueless.........Jesus Christ.
With that said, I'm hopping on the train now to pick it up.
Shawnwhann
Banned
Yeah these league details coming out right now are ridiculous! NCAA league setup confirmed to be superior.
sableholic
Member
Shawnwhann said:
Wouldn't it rely on you using the oline adjustments more? Since you are a higher level player you would be responsible for helping the blocking schemes I would guess.
Either way the bolded part is the way it should be
Especially given the 2nd Dallas game last year, and that was before we had JT.In all seriousness though I'm hoping the Olines aren't like how you described with a little oline adjusting, otherwise I guess I'll have to tank the madden IQ challenge like you mentioned.
Zep said:
He just posted this so it looks like we'll get some answers soon:
madden dev dude said:
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