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Official NeoGAF US Mid-term Elections 2006 Thread
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Father_Brain
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jjasper said:
So wait... you're saying they've been polling dead people? That joke makes no sense.
Even with things tightening up, ultra-conservative people like Fred Barnes still think the GOP will lose the House. This was as of yesterday when I watched Faux News for a few minutes.
Also, Chuck Schumer made very clear the plans the Democrats have laid out on Meet the Press yesterday. The Democrats have like no power right now, and fighting hard for it. They're going to have to campaign and respond a little differently depending on where they are... if you're running against incumbents in different areas, everyone is going to have some different things to say/perhaps put more weight behind a key issue other than Iraq. When that's applied to the mainstream media, representing the Dems as a whole, perhaps this turns a lot of people off. It's easier for the Republicans to sit back and have a unified message; they control everything currently. But these ARE all local elections. And, hey. Taking advantage of the President's unpopularity would naturally come first, even if the situation was reversed and the Republicans were the minority party, I would think.
Also, Chuck Schumer made very clear the plans the Democrats have laid out on Meet the Press yesterday. The Democrats have like no power right now, and fighting hard for it. They're going to have to campaign and respond a little differently depending on where they are... if you're running against incumbents in different areas, everyone is going to have some different things to say/perhaps put more weight behind a key issue other than Iraq. When that's applied to the mainstream media, representing the Dems as a whole, perhaps this turns a lot of people off. It's easier for the Republicans to sit back and have a unified message; they control everything currently. But these ARE all local elections. And, hey. Taking advantage of the President's unpopularity would naturally come first, even if the situation was reversed and the Republicans were the minority party, I would think.
The USA Today thing is true the story they ran today had the difference as 3 not 2 though (not that it maes any difference) 46-49 it is also the same difference for Virginia.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-05-national-poll_x.htm
But it doesn't look like that ad is helping
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-05-national-poll_x.htm
But it doesn't look like that ad is helping
Father_Brain
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For those panicking about the polls that show the race tightening (or using them to justify their existing apathy and defeatism), the latest CNN poll has the Democrats with a staggering 20-point generic lead. Averaging all polls, the Democrats have a 12-point generic lead.
scissorfight
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I really wish there was some way to get political organizations to stop calling MI numbers on the do-not call list. I get 3 calls a day telling me how Granholm rapes kittens.
I finally called the MI Rep Org and told the ****ers I don't normally vote, but I'd make an exception this time to go vote for Granholm since the Dems aren't calling me 3 ****ing times a day.
I finally called the MI Rep Org and told the ****ers I don't normally vote, but I'd make an exception this time to go vote for Granholm since the Dems aren't calling me 3 ****ing times a day.
scissorfight
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BACKFIRE TOTALCheebs said:
Cheebs said:
I told you he was making a comeback, you said there was ZERO chance.
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From the desk of conflicting poll results ... Fox News of all places...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227707,00.html
Because Obama needs the deep south?scorcho said:
Obama is doing AMAZING in polls now that he is added for someone so fresh.
While Edwards would be safer, I doubt Ford has anything to do with him running. I mean look at this election. He is the MOST wanted candidate for Democrat rallies, even more so than Bill Clinton.
Squirrel Killer
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I don't see a field for buying habits, but I can tell that they've got a national GOTV list.Cheebs said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fusionjamesinclair said:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/8/27/14386/2671
it's somewhat confusing, and can lead to a candidate literally appearing on the ballot box more than 3 times. still, there are some benefits to it.
Obama and his handlers are supposedly looking at Ford's race to see how race would play out in a southern election. of the southern states, Tennessee doesn't have a particularly racially divisive history, and seeing how the NRCC and Corker placed some highly questionable bigoted ads without much voter backlash (Corker is still leading), Obama could see any Presidential race as treading water down south.Cheebs said:
Beer Monkey
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I have gotten at least a dozen large, glossy, rigid cardboard flyers here in OH-2, telling me that if I don't vote for Mean Jean Schmidt that her opponent is going to sell me to Hollywood, tax me into poverty, and kill all of our babies.
Why the hell aren't there any got-damn Republican flyers explaining to me why the hell 18 cents of my taxes go to national debt interest due to our growing deficit that no respected economist believes that we can tax cut our way out of.
The last six years have proven that Repub single-party rule is the best way to sell out the economy of future generations and all of our global respect to boot. No real conservative would want more of this, just the real elite that is sure to tell us to eat cake any day now.
Sorry for venting. This campaign of negativity is getting to me. I want blood.
Why the hell aren't there any got-damn Republican flyers explaining to me why the hell 18 cents of my taxes go to national debt interest due to our growing deficit that no respected economist believes that we can tax cut our way out of.
The last six years have proven that Repub single-party rule is the best way to sell out the economy of future generations and all of our global respect to boot. No real conservative would want more of this, just the real elite that is sure to tell us to eat cake any day now.
Sorry for venting. This campaign of negativity is getting to me. I want blood.
evil solrac v3.0
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scissorfight said:
if they ain't selling you something, it doesn't apply to them.
scissorfight
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I know, but some states have added Laws to stop political calls to numbers on the DNC list. Unfortunately MI hasn't.evil solrac v3.0 said:if they ain't selling you something, it doesn't apply to them.
Now there's a candidate I could get behind! "I will stop annoying political phone calls!"
Know what I wonder? During the Kerry "joke" days the Democrat lead shrunk to a 4%-7% lead yet in polls from Fox and CNN that are in the days after the joke it went back up to 15%ish.
Just who are the people who jumped to the Republican side when Kerry made the joke only to jump right back? :lol :lol :lol
Just who are the people who jumped to the Republican side when Kerry made the joke only to jump right back? :lol :lol :lol
Just wanted to mention in this thread: I'm a staffer in a Lt. Governor's race in Oklahoma--don't worry, no Republicans here--and just wanted to give an overall survey of the Oklahoman political landscape.
Contrary to our reputation nationwide, we look to be electing a strong slate of statewide Democratic candidates, from Gov. Brad Henry on down. He will absolutely CRUSH Congressman Ernest Istook, possibly with 65% of the vote. This will certainly help the rest of our candidates down the ticket, from my candidate (Jari Askins) to the Attorney General, Insurance Commissioner, Auditor, Treasurer, Corp. Commissioner, and on down.
Nationally, there are no competitive house seats--the normal slate of conservative, pro-Bush, pro-war candidates will get elected in landslides (even our Democrat, Dan Boren, is quite conservative). Looks like the next chance for a real congressional or senate switch is in 2008, when our very own jackass Senator, James Inhofe, will be up for re-election. The obvious choice for an opponent is Gov. Henry, but I'm still not convinced of his ability to be a strong national candidate. He did raise over $4.5 million in the current race, however.
I'll update everyone on the races as soon after the polls close as I can, and remember (especially those in OK): a vote for Jari Askins is a vote for KingGondo's job!
Contrary to our reputation nationwide, we look to be electing a strong slate of statewide Democratic candidates, from Gov. Brad Henry on down. He will absolutely CRUSH Congressman Ernest Istook, possibly with 65% of the vote. This will certainly help the rest of our candidates down the ticket, from my candidate (Jari Askins) to the Attorney General, Insurance Commissioner, Auditor, Treasurer, Corp. Commissioner, and on down.
Nationally, there are no competitive house seats--the normal slate of conservative, pro-Bush, pro-war candidates will get elected in landslides (even our Democrat, Dan Boren, is quite conservative). Looks like the next chance for a real congressional or senate switch is in 2008, when our very own jackass Senator, James Inhofe, will be up for re-election. The obvious choice for an opponent is Gov. Henry, but I'm still not convinced of his ability to be a strong national candidate. He did raise over $4.5 million in the current race, however.
I'll update everyone on the races as soon after the polls close as I can, and remember (especially those in OK): a vote for Jari Askins is a vote for KingGondo's job!
Amir0x said:
just now getting around to re-visiting this tread...
I never said voting one way or another was ignorant. I did imply that if one is happy with the way this country is heading then by all means one should vote for the folks in power (republicans) however, I listed reasons are to why one might not like the way this country is heading and suggested that one should vote for democrats if they didn't like the things I listed. Not once did I bring ignorance into to argument except to say that voting republican isn't ignorant.
America's winner take all form of elections forces a 2 party system where the only way to hold government accountable is to vote for the party in power if you are happy or vote for the other guys if you are not. It's excrutiatingly simple to make a decision and voting along party lines isn't ignorant unless you choose to ignore your situation in life, and whether it's getting better or worse, when you vote..
Neodiablo22
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CONNECTICUT - Sen. Joseph Lieberman, running as an independent, has a 53 percent to 33 percent lead on Democratic anti-war challenger Ned Lamont. Lieberman, a three-term Democratic incumbent, lost the party primary in August after Lamont attacked his support for the Iraq war.
Lieberman is likely to win. Lamont has run a one issue (Iraq war) schemer campaign the entire time and had no actual plans for his time in office. I will be glad when this election is over so that I dont have to listen to anymore of Lamonts campaign advertisements every 30 minutes.
Lieberman is likely to win. Lamont has run a one issue (Iraq war) schemer campaign the entire time and had no actual plans for his time in office. I will be glad when this election is over so that I dont have to listen to anymore of Lamonts campaign advertisements every 30 minutes.
The GOP is shameful in its robocalling methods. So shameful, yet brilliant, that I'm only wondering why some Democrats or orginizations closely affiliated with Democrats haven't pulled off the "We're gonna robocall a Republican voter 20 times today to annoy the shit out of them and hopefully dissuade them from voting" scheme.... :lol
Father_Brain
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Neodiablo22 said:
I agree with you that Lieberman is likely to win, though you're completely wrong about Lamont. I wonder why you're not giving a link to that poll, though? Oh, wait - that'd be because it's A MONTH OLD.
BigJonsson
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Incognito said:
Brilliant
Neodiablo22
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Father_Brain said:
Actually I didnt link it because I am lazy. TAKE THAT!!!
Neodiablo22
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Father_Brain said:
Actually I didnt link it because I am lazy. TAKE THAT!!! As for Lamont can you give me good examples of when he actually decided to take a stand and give a reasonable strategy on how to go through with it. All I see him do is talk negatively about Lieberman in debates and advertisements.
Father_Brain
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Neodiablo22 said:
Has Lieberman taken a "stand" on Iraq, other than "stay the course?"
Neodiablo22
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http://www.joe2006.com/articles_details.asp?id=157Father_Brain said:
McColinCake
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was the election today?
BigJonsson
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Family values is such bullshit
Mark Foley what?
Mark Foley what?
Ninja Scooter
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im voting for this man
http://www.mountjoyforsenate.com/
and i urge all of you, regardless of party or political affiliation, to do the same.
http://www.mountjoyforsenate.com/
and i urge all of you, regardless of party or political affiliation, to do the same.
Fragamemnon
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Diablos said:Found this on another forum:
:megarolleyes
Those values must be pretty shallow if they can be destroyed by a single election.
My family* values of intellectual elitism, moral relativism, and blanket demeaning people of faith have survived five elections now, the last few being heartbreaking losses for my team.
* by family, I mean my fiance and I.
Ninja Scooter
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Diablos said:He's running against Di-Fi, right? There's no way he's gonna win.
he's Dick Mountjoy he can do anything!!
Fragamemnon
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Ninja Scooter said:
Including broadcast political advertisements via the Emergency Broadcast System:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=10638
BTW, I don't buy into the whole gridlock thing. It forces the legislative branch to be innovative and compromise, and provides real accountability for the executive and balance to the appointed judiciary. Since both parties are in power, they are held accountable for their actions on their own merits and can't just turn one side into the evil boogyman without some ideas and accomplishments of their own.
As for Wall Street, I can't see how they would be elated to have Spitzer in the top seat of NY government, labor-friendly Democrats running the House of Representatives, or a whole new crop of legislators that are going to start pushing hard for trade reforms that will cut the profits of megacorps. Then again, Bush could just veto it all!
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