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Week 1
THU, SEP 4
Washington at NY Giants 7:00 PM NBC

SUN, SEP 7
Detroit at Atlanta 1:00 PM Fox
Seattle at Buffalo 1:00 PM Fox
Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
NY Jets at Miami 1:00 PM CBS
Kansas City at New England 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 PM Fox
St. Louis at Philadelphia 1:00 PM Fox
Houston at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Baltimore 1:00 PM CBS
Carolina at San Diego 4:15 PM Fox
Arizona at San Francisco 4:15 PM Fox
Dallas at Cleveland 4:15 PM Fox
Chicago at Indianapolis 8:15 PM NBC

MON, SEP 8
Minnesota at Green Bay 7:00 PM ESPN
Denver at Oakland 10:15 PM ESPN
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Browns over Cowboys? You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

P.S.

Milabrega, I'm up for some fantasy football (Yahoo, preferably).

P.P.S

A guy I went to HS with made the Raven's roster :D
 
Patriots released Chad Jackson!?

Damn, does Moss feast on the souls of promising young receivers to prolong his life or something?
 
soulja224466 said:
rams sign rickey manning jr

hopefully this piece of shit will at least pick mcnabb off 3 times again.
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crap. the eagles are probably just as bad at WR right now as they were when they had thrash and pinkston.

if only reid decides to run the ball all day long.

RUN THE BALL!!!
 
DY_nasty said:
Patriots released Chad Jackson!?

Damn, does Moss feast on the souls of promising young receivers to prolong his life or something?
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But I thought the Pats were masters of the draft? :/

I bet he gets a look with the Jags, being a Florida boy and all.
 
effzee said:
crap. the eagles are probably just as bad at WR right now as they were when they had thrash and pinkston.

if only reid decides to run the ball all day long.

RUN THE BALL!!!
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i actually think we'll be halfway decent at stopping the run this year(assuming witherspoon plays). even with manning jr, i have to think pass defense is our weakness.
 
Week 1
THU, SEP 4
Washington at NY Giants 7:00 PM NBC

SUN, SEP 7
Detroit at Atlanta 1:00 PM Fox
Seattle at Buffalo 1:00 PM Fox
Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
NY Jets at Miami 1:00 PM CBS
Kansas City at New England 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 PM Fox
St. Louis at Philadelphia 1:00 PM Fox
Houston at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Baltimore 1:00 PM CBS
Carolina at San Diego 4:15 PM Fox
Arizona at San Francisco 4:15 PM Fox
Dallas at Cleveland 4:15 PM Fox Please god
Chicago at Indianapolis 8:15 PM NBC

MON, SEP 8
Minnesota at Green Bay 7:00 PM ESPN
Denver at Oakland 10:15 PM ESPN
 
Oozer3993 said:
Browns over Cowboys? You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

P.S.

Milabrega, I'm up for some fantasy football (Yahoo, preferably).

P.P.S

A guy I went to HS with made the Raven's roster :D
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I hate the Cowboys. I also have a good feeling about the first game. Browns win it by 3!
 
soulja224466 said:
i actually think we'll be halfway decent at stopping the run this year(assuming witherspoon plays). even with manning jr, i have to think pass defense is our weakness.
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yeah well even if you were the worst running defense in the history of football, reid would pass 65% of the time.

thats with curtis out and brown banged up.
 
Fine, I'll do the prediction thang

Week 1
THU, SEP 4
Washington at NY Giants (gotta go with the power of Zorn)

SUN, SEP 7
Detroit at Atlanta (the Matt Ryan effect)
Seattle at Buffalo (they're practically a CFL team)
Jacksonville at Tennessee
NY Jets at Miami (for the deliciousness)
Kansas City at New England
Tampa Bay at New Orleans
St. Louis at Philadelphia
Houston at Pittsburgh (fuck em)
Cincinnati at Baltimore
Carolina at San Diego (San Diego tends to start slow, and Carolina's hungry)
Arizona at San Francisco
Dallas at Cleveland (to shut them the fuck up)
Chicago at Indianapolis

MON, SEP 8
Minnesota at Green Bay
Denver at Oakland (They're going to surprise some people this year... maybe)
 
John Clayton at ESPN is reporting that the Giants have reached a deal with Eagles cast-off Jerome McDougle. Supposedly he had a good training camp but I know he never lived up to his first-round billing in Philadelphia. It'll be interesting to see how Spags and the Giants can work him in
 
I'm glad the Cowboys are reaching out to Keith Davis. The guy was great on special teams and we really need some help in that area. I'm wondering if the Cowboys might look to Terry Glenn to fill out the WR position for a few weeks seeing that he knows the system more than anyone else they could get at the moment.
 
Classic_Gs said:
I was surprised to see that the Pats cut Lynch because I thought he fit their defense fairly well.
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League rules mandate that you can only have one cheap shot artist at safety per team.
 
Coughlin confirms McDougle is a Giant, hurray for having DE depth again!


Ralph Vacchiano's Blog confirms the Giant's practice squad.... Your boys Woodson and Gilberry both made it Wellie.
In case you missed it a few blog entries below, the Giants’ practice squad consists of DE Wallace Gilberry, OL Na’Shan Goddard, CB Geoffrey Pope and WR Marcus Monk, OL Kurt Quarterman, QB Andre Woodson and DT Jeremy Clark.

They have one spot remaining, which Tom Coughlin said they will address tomorrow. They had two options they were considering, but WR Brandon London was claimed by Miami and LB Tank Daniels was claimed by Philadelphia.
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KilledByBill said:
John Clayton at ESPN is reporting that the Giants have reached a deal with Eagles cast-off Jerome McDougle. Supposedly he had a good training camp but I know he never lived up to his first-round billing in Philadelphia. It'll be interesting to see how Spags and the Giants can work him in
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:D

Excellent. Haven't been on BBI in a few days, but this is the move that we were all waiting for.

Further, while I would like to think that the Browns would beat up the Cowboys, the Giants starters beat the shit out of the Browns starters so thoroughly in the pre-season, that I can't see them getting passed "The NFC Pro Bowl Team".
 
KilledByBill said:
Coughlin confirms McDougle is a Giant, hurray for having DE depth again!


Ralph Vacchiano's Blog confirms the Giant's practice squad.... Your boys Woodson and Gilberry both made it Wellie.
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Sweet. I thought Gilberry did well in pre-season. Woodson not being claimed is a real shocker. Sucks about our boy Tank though, he was a great special teamer for us.

Fuck man, you know you are drafting well if guys that are your castoffs are being picked up right away by other teams!
 
KilledByBill said:
John Clayton at ESPN is reporting that the Giants have reached a deal with Eagles cast-off Jerome McDougle. Supposedly he had a good training camp but I know he never lived up to his first-round billing in Philadelphia. It'll be interesting to see how Spags and the Giants can work him in
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spags will probably turn him into a good player.

the knock on him has been that hes a bust and never lived up to 1st round pick status but hes been hurt every season and was even shot one off season.

the eagles are fools for letting him go considering they only have 1 proven DE in trent cole. they signed clemons in the offseason but he hasn't suited up yet because of injury and is coming off what i consider a fluke season. hes a undersized speed rusher who would be only effective in certain situations. defenses can run all over him.

we have darren howard who has been a huge FA bust, but they kept him. victon abiamari who is also hurt and a rookie essentially. also unproven.

the eagles cut the only end who produced in preseason because he is finally healthy.

to top it off they made tony hunt, the RB who couldn't see the field last yr because he could not pick up the blitz, the starting FB. oh and he was just switched to that position 1 week ago.

i can already see mcdougle bulldozing tony hunt on his way to mcnabb.
 
Nice move signing McDougle to a low cost. It's certainly has its high reward possibility.

Renaldo Wynn can see action inside at DT when Giants go into a dime or nickel package and now McDougle can stay outside on the end.

Sucks about Tank Daniels, though. I liked him as a ST player. Though the Giants still have the young pups in Goff and Kehl, as well as very good ST'ers DeOssie and Blackburn.

No other roster moves announced? With McDougle on board, who is cut/traded?

EDIT:

Giants released DT Rodney Leisle -- exactly how I wanted.

DY_nasty said:
Patriots released Chad Jackson!?

Damn, does Moss feast on the souls of promising young receivers to prolong his life or something?
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Jackson couldn't beat out Gaffney or Washington. Not Moss' fault.
 
I still have openings in a Fantasy League if anyone wants in. PM me your email if you want in. We're looking to draft tomorrow night.
 
I 'm posting this before I lose power from Gustav. I 'm picking the Saints, no matter where they play they should be fired up...
 
effzee said:
spags will probably turn him into a good player.

the knock on him has been that hes a bust and never lived up to 1st round pick status but hes been hurt every season and was even shot one off season.

the eagles are fools for letting him go considering they only have 1 proven DE in trent cole. they signed clemons in the offseason but he hasn't suited up yet because of injury and is coming off what i consider a fluke season. hes a undersized speed rusher who would be only effective in certain situations. defenses can run all over him.

we have darren howard who has been a huge FA bust, but they kept him. victon abiamari who is also hurt and a rookie essentially. also unproven.

the eagles cut the only end who produced in preseason because he is finally healthy.

to top it off they made tony hunt, the RB who couldn't see the field last yr because he could not pick up the blitz, the starting FB. oh and he was just switched to that position 1 week ago.

i can already see mcdougle bulldozing tony hunt on his way to mcnabb.
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you gotta cut mcdougle. one preseason doesnt mean shit. Billy McMullen lead the preseason in yards. doesnt mean shit.

you have to keep clemons cause you gave him the big money in the offseason and has proven production. how you argue regular season production vs. 1 good preseason in how many years is beyond me.

Darren Howard is here because he plays DT as well. it allows us to keep just 4 DT's on the roster.

VA was suppose to start before the injury. you cant dump him for Mcdougle.

its a numbers game. too little too late for Mcdougle. he had alot of unfortunate breaks that wernt his fault, but it wasnt ours either. He has been getting big money for producing absolutley nothing. good to see he caught on with another team but no way he could have made it on our team this year.

In terms of the fullback situation the front office kinda failed there. We should have drafted one or signed Lorenzo Neal. The way i see it Tony Hunt was the best to keep seeing how we had garbage competing with him. it also allows us to kinda stash him away as a possible future backup HB.
 
you can teach a guy to pick up the blitz so I don't see how that's a big problem. plus having a HB convert over to FB means you can do some unique draw plays or something.

well, you can if the Eagles get a new head coach that actually runs the ball.
 
Week 1
THU, SEP 4
Washington at NY Giants 7:00 PM NBC

SUN, SEP 7
Detroit at Atlanta 1:00 PM Fox
Seattle at Buffalo 1:00 PM Fox
Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
NY Jets at Miami 1:00 PM CBS
Kansas City at New England 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 PM Fox
St. Louis at Philadelphia 1:00 PM Fox
Houston at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Baltimore 1:00 PM CBS
Carolina at San Diego 4:15 PM Fox
Arizona at San Francisco 4:15 PM Fox
Dallas at Cleveland 4:15 PM Fox
Chicago at Indianapolis 8:15 PM NBC

MON, SEP 8
Minnesota at Green Bay 7:00 PM ESPN
Denver at Oakland 10:15 PM ESPN

So much potential for horrific, and ugly slopfests. Detroit/Atlanta, Jets/Fins,Cinny/Baltimore. Oakland/Denver is always fun, so I can't include that game. Maybe Zona/San Fran, but maybe the offensives will impress.
no..
 
CB3 said:
you gotta cut mcdougle. one preseason doesnt mean shit. Billy McMullen lead the preseason in yards. doesnt mean shit.

you have to keep clemons cause you gave him the big money in the offseason and has proven production. how you argue regular season production vs. 1 good preseason in how many years is beyond me.
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well lets go back a bit. i am not thrilled by clemons. did not really like the signing. so my concern is that he will yet another undersized speed rusher who gets man handled against the run and at MAX produces 3 sacks or so. i think he had a fluke season last yr. he is largely unproven also. he has had one good season and before that he has bounced around and was out of football at one point too.

Darren Howard is here because he plays DT as well. it allows us to keep just 4 DT's on the roster.

VA was suppose to start before the injury. you cant dump him for Mcdougle.
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darren howard is a bust for DE. this is really about having serviceable DEs on the team. we have just 1 in trent cole and even he sometimes is invisible for games. the team actually has pretty decent depth at DT and i think 2 good starters in patterson and bunkely. you can not sacrifice a position you are weak at just for depth at another position. this is of course unless darren howard finally plays up to his pro bowl level potential. i doubt it because has yet to show up in that form.

VA is again unproven. he hasn't played, if at all, and is injured so didn't get many reps in during pre season. if mcdougle was going to be cut because of these projected starters in front of him what was the point of even giving him a try out in pre-season? VA over mcdougle? why? both have proven nothing other than being injured. but at least mcdougle showed some hunger this pre-season when finally healthy.

its a numbers game. too little too late for Mcdougle. he had alot of unfortunate breaks that wernt his fault, but it wasnt ours either. He has been getting big money for producing absolutley nothing. good to see he caught on with another team but no way he could have made it on our team this year.
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yeah i get that part but i would rather cut howard or keep 7 DEs. the worst part is that he went to the giants who run the exact same defense except better because spags actually has his defensive line produce pressure without the blitz. the eagles only get a pass rush when there is a all out blitz.

In terms of the fullback situation the front office kinda failed there. We should have drafted one or signed Lorenzo Neal. The way i see it Tony Hunt was the best to keep seeing how we had garbage competing with him. it also allows us to kinda stash him away as a possible future backup HB.
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the FB position is a joke to Reid. just like the WR position and just like the PR position last yr. Hunt has trouble picking up blocks. so how does it make any sense that he is moved to FB where it will be his primary duty?

its to save face because they wouldn't want to admit he is a bust too. unless of course they plan on running the FB, but since they never rush the RBs enough as is I doubt hunt is going to be getting many carries. the fact the change in position comes 1 week away from opening day and hes named a starter? its a sad joke.
 
firex said:
you can teach a guy to pick up the blitz so I don't see how that's a big problem. plus having a HB convert over to FB means you can do some unique draw plays or something.

well, you can if the Eagles get a new head coach that actually runs the ball.
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ideally it would be great. but Hunt didn't see playing time last season only because he couldn't pick up the blitzes. that was the knock on him in pre season also.

then they switch to FB 1 week before the season starts and all of a sudden he is the starter now.
 
effzee said:
isn't he a she?
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on second thought

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Week 1
THU, SEP 4
Washington at NY Giants 7:00 PM NBC

SUN, SEP 7
Detroit at Atlanta 1:00 PM Fox
Seattle at Buffalo 1:00 PM Fox
Jacksonville at Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS
NY Jets at Miami 1:00 PM CBS
Kansas City at New England 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 PM Fox
St. Louis at Philadelphia 1:00 PM Fox
Houston at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Baltimore 1:00 PM CBS
Carolina at San Diego 4:15 PM Fox
Arizona at San Francisco 4:15 PM Fox
Dallas at Cleveland 4:15 PM Fox
Chicago at Indianapolis 8:15 PM NBC

MON, SEP 8
Minnesota at Green Bay 7:00 PM ESPN
Denver at Oakland 10:15 PM ESPN - It could happen!
 
effzee said:
well lets go back a bit. i am not thrilled by clemons. did not really like the signing. so my concern is that he will yet another undersized speed rusher who gets man handled against the run and at MAX produces 3 sacks or so. i think he had a fluke season last yr. he is largely unproven also. he has had one good season and before that he has bounced around and was out of football at one point too.



darren howard is a bust for DE. this is really about having serviceable DEs on the team. we have just 1 in trent cole and even he sometimes is invisible for games. the team actually has pretty decent depth at DT and i think 2 good starters in patterson and bunkely. you can not sacrifice a position you are weak at just for depth at another position. this is of course unless darren howard finally plays up to his pro bowl level potential. i doubt it because has yet to show up in that form.

VA is again unproven. he hasn't played, if at all, and is injured so didn't get many reps in during pre season. if mcdougle was going to be cut because of these projected starters in front of him what was the point of even giving him a try out in pre-season? VA over mcdougle? why? both have proven nothing other than being injured. but at least mcdougle showed some hunger this pre-season when finally healthy.



yeah i get that part but i would rather cut howard or keep 7 DEs. the worst part is that he went to the giants who run the exact same defense except better because spags actually has his defensive line produce pressure without the blitz. the eagles only get a pass rush when there is a all out blitz.



the FB position is a joke to Reid. just like the WR position and just like the PR position last yr. Hunt has trouble picking up blocks. so how does it make any sense that he is moved to FB where it will be his primary duty?

its to save face because they wouldn't want to admit he is a bust too. unless of course they plan on running the FB, but since they never rush the RBs enough as is I doubt hunt is going to be getting many carries. the fact the change in position comes 1 week away from opening day and hes named a starter? its a sad joke.
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Clemons may have had only one good season, but thats one more than Mcdougle had. its not like he has always been injured. when he has been healthy and played in the past he has looked like shit. why do you guys always buy into preseason hype. he was dominating 3rd string rookie DE's. He SHOULD be doing that. IF nothing else he is a vet so that should happen.

On the flip side, VA did play last year and did a decent job for a rookie. He is injured now but he will be back midway through the season i think. He was projected as a starter, so he must have looked impressive. You say they have proven nothing besides being injured. the difference is that mcdougle has been injured for like 5 years. This is VA's first injury and its too his hand. nothing to big.

Darren Howard has been a bust as a starting Defensive End. But coming off the bench after a few series fresh when the o-line has been playing for a while should be a nice change of pace. Bunkley and Mike Patterson are solid starters at DT and Trevor LAws looks good but Dan Kleco aint shit. Id much rather have Howard as a safety valve at DT incase of injury.

And if your talking strickly pass rush, Juqua Thomas is a pretty good pass rushing DE. I really dont think there is a huge huge problem on the line. IT comes down to Clemons coming in on 3rd down like in oakland and getting sacks. if he can do that and VA turns out even just average we will be fine.

I cant believe the hype train going on McDougle. What has he ever done besides get 2 sacks in preseason on 3rd string O-lines :lol :lol :lol Ridiculous. No one hypes up scrub players to be the second coming quite like eagles fans.

in 35 games mcdougle has 3 sacks. 3...
 
like the 2nd coming of what? i just want him in the rotation in case clemons is the bust i think he is and parker doesn't produce anything.

basically im not a fan of any of these guys. parker, howard, clemons, VA, or mcdougle. but i would feel a lot better about DE with mcdougle on the team then not.


VA was only projected to be a starter only because he was drafted by Reid. he always projects his picks to be starters in the 2nd yr even if they don't deserve it.

what did VA do last season to deserve a starting position? same thing he did with bradley. he made like one good play all season last yr in a throw away game and all of a sudden he is the projected starter. gocong is a starter not because he is a stud LB but because they drafted him and want him on the field.

for once i would love for reid to be right on the LBs or speed rushers they collect. im just cynical now when it comes to Reid's FO moves.
 
The 49ers picked up ex-Bengal Ahmed Brooks off of waivers. If Singletary can get him playing up to his talent level, he could be a force with Willis.
 
How else do you expect them to become starters? Reid put in Omar Gaither, Trent Cole, Mike Patterson, Brodrick Bunkley, Lito Sheppard, Todd Herremans, ect ect right into a starter position starting their second year. All of those are quality starters today and two of them have made the pro bowl. and they didnt show too much in game to earn those spots either. Sometimes you gotta trust what the coaches see every day in practice and on film instead of the few plays you see in a preseason game. They are wrong sometimes but the majority of the time Reid is correct.
 
Ahmad Brooks got cut because he's probably done, unless something can repair his groin muscles. He had a pretty bad tear that took him out for almost all of last season and still wasn't recovered for this preseason. They would have kept him or put him on IR if they thought he could recover. I mean, good luck with the guy, but if he gets better this season he needs to take every possible drug test known and some experimental tests to find HGH too.
 
CB3 said:
How else do you expect them to become starters? Reid put in Omar Gaither, Trent Cole, Mike Patterson, Brodrick Bunkley, Lito Sheppard, Todd Herremans, ect ect right into a starter position starting their second year. All of those are quality starters today and two of them have made the pro bowl. and they didnt show too much in game to earn those spots either. Sometimes you gotta trust what the coaches see every day instead of the few plays you see in a preseason game. They are wrong sometimes but the majority of the time Reid is correct.
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most of those guys played enough even as backups to show their talents.

gaither clearly outplayed trotter only because trotter's knees are shot. cole filled in a lot for the injured howard and kearse and earned his playing time. lito also played a lot in place of troy and taylor. bunkley is the only who was awarded a starting position who proved himself.

i hope it works out man. im more down about the offense so i really want the defense to be solid but unfortunately i still see a weak pass rush and mediocre LB play.
 
effzee said:
most of those guys played enough even as backups to show their talents.

gaither clearly outplayed trotter only because trotter's knees are shot. cole filled in a lot for the injured howard and kearse and earned his playing time. lito also played a lot in place of troy and taylor. bunkley is the only who was awarded a starting position who proved himself.

i hope it works out man. im more down about the offense so i really want the defense to be solid but unfortunately i still see a weak pass rush and mediocre LB play.
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point being im sure not many believed in Trent Cole or Omar Gaither or any other players who filled in. even if they got in game time as rookies. im sure no one thought a pair of 5th rounders would produce like they did.
 
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