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dem said:
You boys should be worrying about Clutch playing another year... not getting another dman.
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I'd rather take my chances with Cloutier than Ty "OK Guys This Year I'm REALLY Feeling Those Competitive Juices" Conklin and that other dude splitting pipe time for the Oil. Not by much, but still.

Resigning Sami Salo was fine and Bryan Allen's improved by leaps and bounds, but are we going to go the same route as the Sharks and let the farm fill up the remaining roster slots? Good to reward the boys and all, another experienced D-man in the mix would make sense.

Witt? Jeez, if only.
 
.... I don't see the Hamrlik signing anywhere. DON'T PLAY WITH ME DAMN OILER FANS.


All the Flames resignings are good news. I think Reinprecht was just starting to mesh with the team offensively when he got hurt last season, and Warrener was a vital piece of the playoff run. Even without Hamrlik the Flames D would be very solid and arguably improved over last season, especially if Phaneuf is ready to play as a 4th or 5th dman.


Of course, Kipper is the big one.
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In one of Kipper's first games as a Flame, he is Blessed by God Hisself in a supernatural blast of pure hockey enlightenment.
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I think the Flames offense is shaping up nicely. They didn't get the big boost like the Oilers d got or anything, but assuming Kobasew and Lombardi resign it's looking pretty good.
Jarome Iginla
Daymond Langkow
Tony Amonte
Steven Reinprecht
Marcus Nilson
Stephane Yelle
Chris Simon
Jason Wiemer
Darren McCarty
Shean Donovan

I'll misss Ville's energy and good quotes, but I won't miss his Theo Fleury-like ability to take bad penalties at the worst possible time. Luckily, we still have Simon to get bullshit rep phantom roughing calls from the refs. :P
 
calder said:
.... I don't see the Hamrlik signing anywhere. DON'T PLAY WITH ME DAMN OILER FANS.
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Goto the calgarypuck forum. Bruce Dohbiggen(or whatever his name is) said it was a done deal on the radio. They even played it up like it was a big announcement.
 
Aww, calgarypuck? I almost never go there, it's a shame the Flames have the lamest (and ugliest, and slowest) unofficial fan site around. Years ago I wished it didn't exist at all, so someone else would do it properly - whoever runs it doesn't have the single minded obsessive nature (or basic coding skills ;p) to run a real good fan site. I mean it's the most Exciting Offseason Ever and calgarypuck has had three measly updates since the lockout ended. That's just sad.

Still, good news I suppose. Roman never quite lived up to his billing or first overall draft position of course, but a very good dman is always welcome.



Senators secure Spezza with one-year deal

TSN.ca Staff

OTTAWA (Ticker) - After nearly two weeks of relative inactivity, the Ottawa Senators got down to business.

The Senators on Friday re-signed five players, including former first-round pick Jason Spezza, to one-year contracts and defenseman Anton Volchenkov to a two-year deal.

Center Antoine Vermette, right wing Chris Neil and defenseman Christoph Schubert also inked one-year pacts.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

Drafted second overall in 2001 with the pick the Senators received from the New York Islanders for center Alexei Yashin, Spezza recorded seven goals and 14 assists in 33 games as a rookie in 2002-03. The 22-year-old broke through the following season, collecting 22 tallies and 33 assists in 78 contests.

Last season, Spezza played with Binghamton of the American Hockey League, earning MVP honors after leading the league in scoring with 117 points.

Volchenkov, 23, was limited to 19 games in 2003-04 due to a shoulder injury, registering one goal and two assists. Selected 21st overall in the 2000 draft, the Russian had 10 tallies and 35 assists in 69 games with Binghamton last season.

Vermette, a second-round pick in 2000, made his NHL debut in 2003-04, collecting seven goals and seven assists in 57 games. The 23-year-old recorded 28 goals and 73 points in 78 contests with Binghamton in 2004-05.

The Senators' enforcer the past three seasons, Neil had eight goals, eight assists and 194 penalty minutes in 82 games in 2003-04. A sixth-round pick in 1998, the 26-year-old tough guy has 24 tallies, 19 assists and 572 penalty minutes in 222 career contests.

Schubert, 23, was a fourth-round pick of the Senators in 2001. The German native collected 10 goals and 22 assists in 76 games with Binghamton last season.
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Strange that the Sens didn't lock down Spezza for longer than one year. Could he be angling for some earlier FA?

In all the excitement about other signings and trades Spezza gets forgotten a bit. I think he's going to have a HUGE year, and I'll be surprised if he's not top 5 in scoring this season. In a yahoo hockey league I'd jump up and grab him in the second round... if scoring does pick up a bit I can easily imagine him getting 90 pts and being the Sens leading point getter (Hossa or Havlat will likely have the most goals on the team though).
 
Calgary is looking surprisingly good offensive wise despite losing some of their bigger offensive talents. But the roster means little when you have Sutter directing them. I can still see them play very conservatively, and with the new rules to help the flow of the game, I can see the Flames getting burnt if Sutter doesn't adapt.

Calgary needs more vet Ds because most of their D sucks to be honest. The only reason why they were so effective is because they followed Sutter's commands to the minutes details. They were essentially robots out there, and couldn't think for themselves. Whenever a star player stormed in, if they couldn't clutch on, then Kipper faced a shot/chance leaving the D looking dumb...deked out of their underwear. With the new rules, you may see a lot more star players able to storm in and work some magic. Vet Ds like Hammer help IMO. I think that this is perhaps why the Oilers stepped it up D-wise for the long term (5 years for Pronger).
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Calgary needs more vet Ds because most of their D sucks to be honest.
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The hell you talking about? Calgary has one of the strongest defensive corps in the league. Regehr, Leopold, Phaneuf and now possibly Hamrlik is a pretty strong mix on strenth and skill imo.
 
yodathesoda said:
The hell you talking about? Calgary has one of the strongest defensive corps in the league. Regehr, Leopold, Phaneuf and now possibly Hamrlik is a pretty strong mix on strenth and skill imo.
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One of the youngest D lines? Yes. One of the strongest? I don't know about that. I'd take the D lines from Atlanta, Edmonton, or (god forgive me) Philly before I gave Calgary a look.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Calgary needs more vet Ds because most of their D sucks to be honest. The only reason why they were so effective is because they followed Sutter's commands to the minutes details. They were essentially robots out there, and couldn't think for themselves.
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Eh. Any defence corps that had Regehr, Lydman, Ference, Warrener, Leopold etc did not suck. And 70% of defending is positioning, strength and attention to detail unless you're Bobby Orr - if they get the job done who cares if they're "robots".

I wouldn't say the Flames had one of the stongest D groupings in the league last season though they did have one of the best team defenses. I would say they had an above average defense that was still young and developing into one of the better ones around... I'd take them over the old and slow goon squad shaping up in Philly any day. And who the hell thinks Atlanta has a great young defense? Andy Sutton's mom maybe. In a few years when Coburn and Valabik are there they'll have a good D perhaps, but I'm not sold on Valabik though I do love his Pronger-like evil streak.

I'd say Chicago has one of the best young groups of defense around, if you're including guys who havn't made the NHL along with the younger NHLers.
 
Malakhov said:
What the hell, calgary's D sucks? They have one of the scarriest D in the league with Chicago and Philadelphia.
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Sorry I should have been clear. When I said "most of their D sucks" I meant "most of their Defensemen suck", not "most of their defense sucks". In context you should have been able to see it. :)

As I said, their defense has been effective, but they need more guys who can do more than what Sutter tells them to do. Don't bring up their D roster...while I think Leopold is decent, players like Regehr did nothing but hurt Team Canada during the 2005 World Hockey Championship. He got burnt so many times it wasn't funny.

So this is why they need Hamrlik. I think Sutter realizes this too, otherwise he would have stuck with his current roster of scurriest D ever. :P
 
Socreges said:
Don't let bish and Mike's sense of humour skew your sample of, what, four people? And really, I understand your bitterness, but... I think Boston has something to say about that. Not that either compares to Toronto, in a league of its own.
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Er, bitterness? I could argue that people who whine about Toronto are bitter about our status (you know, being better then everyone), but that would be rude.

Hell, might as well say I'm bitter at Leaf fans, since I dump on them more then anyone. An obnoxious ass is an obnoxious ass, even if it is just an act.

And as for Bruin fans...huh? We have some on this board?






Mike Works said:
Calling Canucks fans the second most obnoxious fans in the league behind Leaf fans is like saying Andre Racicot was the second best goalie for the Canadiens in the mid 90's behind Roy.
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:lol Hey, the facts are the facts, no matter relative they maybe...






SantaCruZer said:
found this on a flyers forum

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:lol :lol :lol
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:lol Considering Forsberg's missed more games then Lindros the last five years, they'd be wise to not get too cocky...







bishoptl said:
Yes indeedy, it does rock. But for sheer hilarity, this is the best punching .gif I've ever seen:

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:lol :lol :lol







ForzaItalia said:
Leafs signed Antropov, Wilm, Mike Hoffman and Roman Kukumberg!!!
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Start planning the parade!!

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*Artists impression. Cup is not to scale. Skin colour is subject to change.
 
Shinobi said:
Er, bitterness? I could argue that people who whine about Toronto are bitter about our status (you know, being better then everyone), but that would be rude.
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Nice try. :lol

And as for Bruin fans...huh? We have some on this board?
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Since you said:

"Canuck fans still manage to be the second most obnoxious fans in the league behind Leaf fans"

I naturally read that as a general statement. If we're strictly talking about GAF, then I'd agree that the Canucks come second. Watch out for those Oiler fans, though! They've been releasing 15 years of frustration recently!
 
Just reading up on some Lindros facts:

Traded to Philly for Ron Hextall, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, $15 million dollars and two 1st round picks.

I hope Quebec threw in the KY for free.
 
Socreges said:
I naturally read that as a general statement. If we're strictly talking about GAF, then I'd agree that the Canucks come second. Watch out for those Oiler fans, though! They've been releasing 15 years of frustration recently!
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Screw GAF, I'd say there are obnoxious Canuck fans pretty much everywhere. :lol Check out any hockey board or the TSN.ca messages and you'll find a LOT of really annoying Canuckleheads. The Canuck fans *here* are normally funny and entertaining in their good natured trolling.

IRL, I find Canuck fans here in Winnipeg to be pretty damn annoying too, except for the Canuck Jr. fans here who are mainly just Moose fans. Nowhere near as annoying as Leaf fans of course. There are some aggravating Oiler fans here too, but mainly just two of my brothers and Mainline. :D


Oh, and to be sure there are annoying fans of every team, and plenty of perfectly reasonable fans of every team too. Most ppl are naturally going to get pissed at fans of other teams in their division due to the more direct competition, which is why the NW crew has been all up in each others grill this offseason. Geography plays a big part, the closer you are to another city the more fans of their team you get and the more fans you run into the more of their annoying fans you run into - I'm sure hockey fans in NJ and NY hate each other more just for that familiarity.

But I'm saying that in a general sense I feel that online (not just here) and in real life the Canucks have the most number of irritating fans this side of the Leafs. But as Mike noted, it's a loooong way from first place to second. ;)
 
I mean, I live in Vancouver. I've just met so many Canuck fans at games, at bars, at school, as friends, as family, etc. And they are often so modest and sombre. It's actually kind of sad. :lol

If you're taking most of your experience from online, I have no idea. I don't post at exclusive boards such as those for the very reason that you mentioned: obnoxious fans. I've browsed a few before and everyone seems partially retarded. Particularly that Red Wings board.

"Canuck fans in Winnipeg". :lol

calder said:
The Canuck fans *here* are normally funny and entertaining in their good natured trolling.
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See, at least you get it!
 
I heard that Lindros signed the contract with the Leafs in Domi's home. I also heard he's taking yoga lessons with Domi. Leads me to this question....

Is Domi the GM? :lol
 
Hahaha, I've told you guys a million times how Domi always tries to suck up to the teams star player (or most popular/powerful figures, whether they're in the ownership group or whatever) and rides their ass.

Maybe now Mats Sundin will be able to go turn on a radio without hearing how Tie Domi, his very best friend ever, hopes to play on the #1 line this year. Or get some PP time, or resign a long term deal, or whatever that shameless self-promoter is trying to scam now. :lol Domi's going to be too busy trying to attach his leech-like claws into Lindros's backside to bother telling the media over and over again how much Sundin and he are best buds.
 
calder said:
Hahaha, I've told you guys a million times how Domi always tries to suck up to the teams star player (or most popular/powerful figures, whether they're in the ownership group or whatever) and rides their ass.

Maybe now Mats Sundin will be able to go turn on a radio without hearing how Tie Domi, his very best friend ever, hopes to play on the #1 line this year. Or get some PP time, or resign a long term deal, or whatever that shameless self-promoter is trying to scam now. :lol
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I was :lol when Domi said "my friend Mario" wanted me to play in Pittsburgh. Relax with the "friend" stuff there buddy. I agree with your point. It's almost like he longs to be this skilled guy and figures if he sucks up to the skilled players he might just magically become one.
 
I never knew Domi was such a suck ass. He sounds a lot like a little brother, you know, someone who always wants to hang out with the older brother and the "cool" kids.
 
Well, I remember with SportsNet, CBC and TSN cobined, we got about 65 of the 82 Oiler games being broadcasted, so I don't see if it would be worth it for me to spend the extra $$$ for games here and there.


The Internet
 
the only thing that is holding me back from getting an HD service is the lack of hockey games in HD.

i want 82 maple leaf games.... in HD! damnit!
 
There are also games you can order over PPV...so if there are a few during the end of the season that aren't available with your current subscription, you can maybe order it via PPV.
 
Justice for Cuthbert!

I hate that he's been 'reduced' to the CFL. Hopefully TSN tosses Gord Miller (McGuire, too!) and replaces him with Cuthbert.
 
The worst thing about this lockout is I won't be able to see any new episodes of George Stromp's "The Hour" on Newsworld in September, which was a terrific show in it's first year.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bell Globemedia (CTV, TSN) and/or Rogers (Sportsnet) makes a huge play for the Hockey Night license in a few years, in much the same way they poneyed up for the Olympic TV rights a few months ago.
 
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