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Malakhov
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I was actually at that game 
Last game of the playoffs for the Habs when the Lightning eliminated us. We gave them a good 5-10 minutes standing ovation at the end of the match for the great season they gave us and all the habs players came on the ice to give us a goodbye and to thank us
Last game of the playoffs for the Habs when the Lightning eliminated us. We gave them a good 5-10 minutes standing ovation at the end of the match for the great season they gave us and all the habs players came on the ice to give us a goodbye and to thank us
Drensch is bitching about nothing because frankly, that's all he has left. Leave him (and the Laffalanche) be. :lol
ALL RIGHT - I attended the Olympic practice at GM Place last night, the Juniors were scheduled to play afterwards but my little guy had to go to bed so no junior hockey scrimmage for me.
That said, it was awesome to see the NHLers back on the ice where they belonged. GM Place was about 80% capacity...for a practice! Not bad at all. My sister took a bunch of pictures and some video, which I'm putting up here so you guys can check it out for yourselves. A few notes:
- Bertuzzi got a standing ovation the second he came out of the tunnel. Everything he did, we were roaring. Touched the puck? WHOOAAAA Took a shot? WHOOOAAA Accidentally knocked over Shane Doan (Doan wasn't looking where he was going, ran into Bert and bounced off him like a basketball)? WHOOOAAAA His hands weren't quite there yet, but his speed was just fine.
- Martin St Louis is a freaking sonic blur in person. During the shootout drill where you get to keep shooting as long as you score each time, he made Luongo look absolutely silly 3 times in a row. Quick hands, and even quicker feet. Good God.
- Pronger didn't give a shit that it was a practice, he manhandled a few guys against the boards during the breakout drills. All in good fun.
- Whoever the jackass was who thought it would be a good idea to interview players DURING THE DRILLS needs to be fired. People are cheering, they don't want to listen to Shane Foxman ask Brendan Morrison about "how good it feels to be back" while Mo's trying to catch his breath. Yeesh.
- Yzerman may have one bad wheel, but he's still an awesome sniper. He scored from an impossible angle over Turco's shoulder, from the far corner at the goal line. Nobody had any business making that shot and Stevie Y buried it. He got a huge ovation as well.
- Peca, Thornton, Lecavalier all looked tired/disinterested. Hitchcock barked at Lecavalier once that I could see.
- This city (and NHL fans everywhere, I guess) are absolutely starved for hockey again. The anticipation was palpable. Watching a simple practice, no stupid rock music intermissions, nobody shooting T-shirts into the crowd, no goddamned Orca flying about...just the best in the world, practising together for the first time in ages. It was an outstanding experience and I'm glad I got to go. Thanks sis!
Now for the pics...
And a few movie clips (small in size)...
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0086621
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0087329
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0087586
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0088163
HOCKEY IS BACK!
ALL RIGHT - I attended the Olympic practice at GM Place last night, the Juniors were scheduled to play afterwards but my little guy had to go to bed so no junior hockey scrimmage for me.
That said, it was awesome to see the NHLers back on the ice where they belonged. GM Place was about 80% capacity...for a practice! Not bad at all. My sister took a bunch of pictures and some video, which I'm putting up here so you guys can check it out for yourselves. A few notes:- Bertuzzi got a standing ovation the second he came out of the tunnel. Everything he did, we were roaring. Touched the puck? WHOOAAAA Took a shot? WHOOOAAA Accidentally knocked over Shane Doan (Doan wasn't looking where he was going, ran into Bert and bounced off him like a basketball)? WHOOOAAAA His hands weren't quite there yet, but his speed was just fine.
- Martin St Louis is a freaking sonic blur in person. During the shootout drill where you get to keep shooting as long as you score each time, he made Luongo look absolutely silly 3 times in a row. Quick hands, and even quicker feet. Good God.
- Pronger didn't give a shit that it was a practice, he manhandled a few guys against the boards during the breakout drills. All in good fun.
- Whoever the jackass was who thought it would be a good idea to interview players DURING THE DRILLS needs to be fired. People are cheering, they don't want to listen to Shane Foxman ask Brendan Morrison about "how good it feels to be back" while Mo's trying to catch his breath. Yeesh.
- Yzerman may have one bad wheel, but he's still an awesome sniper. He scored from an impossible angle over Turco's shoulder, from the far corner at the goal line. Nobody had any business making that shot and Stevie Y buried it. He got a huge ovation as well.
- Peca, Thornton, Lecavalier all looked tired/disinterested. Hitchcock barked at Lecavalier once that I could see.
- This city (and NHL fans everywhere, I guess) are absolutely starved for hockey again. The anticipation was palpable. Watching a simple practice, no stupid rock music intermissions, nobody shooting T-shirts into the crowd, no goddamned Orca flying about...just the best in the world, practising together for the first time in ages. It was an outstanding experience and I'm glad I got to go. Thanks sis!
Now for the pics...
And a few movie clips (small in size)...
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0086621
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0087329
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0087586
http://media.putfile.com/MOV0088163
HOCKEY IS BACK!
The Internet
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Wow, what a good turnout for that practice.
The one here in Calgary for preperation for the World Championships had a little turnout.
It was good though, I got to meet a whole bunch of the players after.
Even this bum :
The one here in Calgary for preperation for the World Championships had a little turnout.
It was good though, I got to meet a whole bunch of the players after.
Even this bum
:
Mike Works
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I was at the practice, and Theodore looked pretty terrible, easily the worst of the 3.
ForzaItalia
Banned
In the Toronto Star about Steve Thomas:
:lol :lol :lol
:lol :lol :lol
The Bookerman
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Damnit Bish, let the canucks go for a month, HBK just STOLE the show yesterday, we want you in the wrestling thread :lol
The Bookerman
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Malakhov said:
Agreed, but until Hockey gets going again on the ice, Wrestling gets my full attention
Thats cool Bish..... I used to know another arrogant Avs fan, and I even liked the Avs back in the day as my 2nd team, but his arrogance made me grow a hatred for them.
That is badass that you got to see the Canadian team... Too bad Lemieux wasn't there. I have a feeling he is spending this week getting Crosby settled into Pittsburgh, as part of his "commitments to the Penguins"
That is badass that you got to see the Canadian team... Too bad Lemieux wasn't there. I have a feeling he is spending this week getting Crosby settled into Pittsburgh, as part of his "commitments to the Penguins"
Malakhov
Banned
For you folks who don't know much about Perezhogin, the kid I'm raving about, I've just uploaded a movie of him:
http://media.putfile.com/perezhogin_omsk-lada_291004
Enjoy! You'll see why I can't wait to see him play with Ribeiro and Ryder
http://media.putfile.com/perezhogin_omsk-lada_291004
Enjoy! You'll see why I can't wait to see him play with Ribeiro and Ryder
My team signed exactly 2 big FA in their existence, for a total of 8 mill. Complain to those who ruined it. The pens were allowed to put a turd on the ice for a long time. Now teams that actually tried get penalized.
Canadiens and Nordiques
Sakic
Naslund
Iginla
Sundin
Lecavalier
Forsberg-only in PPG
Since their is a max, you can only pay so much. So, based on salary and performance, I think guys like Thorton, Aucoin, Lapointe, gonchar-etc are all way overpaid. Compare the kind of money Hejduk and Thorton make. Compare Rick Nash and Forsberg. GMs couldn't control their spemnding without a cap. They can't do it now. The cap only places max amounts. Not some sort of fiscal responsibilty that many of these teams never had in the first place.
And thus the cap proves it's worth yet again.
Kabuki Waq
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Drensch do you honestly think Thorton would be in boston right now if it werent for the cap?
Im sure some other big market team would have paid him more if it werent for the cap.
Im sure some other big market team would have paid him more if it werent for the cap.
Mike Works
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You're looking at it from a completely narrow viewpoint by saying "hey my avs only signed 2 big free agents ever!"Drensch said:
Look at the players you've had on your team:
Peter Forsberg
Patrick Roy
Joe Sakic
Rob Blake
Adam Foote
Paul Kariya
Milan Hejduk
Teemu Selanne
Ray Bourque
Before the cap was implemented, how many of those players did your team lose to free agency because they couldn't afford to match the offer they were getting from the big clubs? You think that just because Colorado didn't go out and buy huge names like New York or Detroit, they're suddenly innocent from the whole process. The Avalanche had one of the biggest payrolls in the entire league.
You ask someone like dem, who's watched practically every good player his team has had get signed away by a big team if the ability to be able to have Forsberg, Roy, Sakic, Blake, Foote, Hejduk, and Bourque all on your team at once thanks to a bloated payroll doesn't give them an unfair advantage.
You're just grumpy now that there is an even playing field. Boo hoo.
Anyone know if there are still profit sharing plans with the new CBA?
I think teams that are successful and do a great job of promoting the NHL (since the League itself does a HORRIBLE job) should reap what they sow. Now, considering that they can't sign more big name players because they are so successful, I think the whole profit sharing plan should be thrown out the window, or at least marginalized.
I think teams that are successful and do a great job of promoting the NHL (since the League itself does a HORRIBLE job) should reap what they sow. Now, considering that they can't sign more big name players because they are so successful, I think the whole profit sharing plan should be thrown out the window, or at least marginalized.
Malakhov said:For you folks who don't know much about Perezhogin, the kid I'm raving about, I've just uploaded a movie of him:
http://media.putfile.com/perezhogin_omsk-lada_291004
Enjoy! You'll see why I can't wait to see him play with Ribeiro and Ryder
You don't have the video of him slamming a guy in the head with his stick?
ForzaItalia
Banned
Someone get that video where Domi beats the fuck out of that walrus Chris Falcone in the penalty box at Philly. :lol
Mike Works
Member
Curtis Joseph is going to Phoenix.
"And your Stanley Cup MVP... MANNY LEGAhahaha i can't even type it
"And your Stanley Cup MVP... MANNY LEGAhahaha i can't even type it
There are alot of dumb shits in the league. That's the problem, and the cap hasn't solved it.
Almost everyone on the avs was drafted by the avs. If not, we had to give up tons of people to get them:
Ricci
Ozolinsh
Drury
Reinprecht
Ballard
Yelle
Messier
Morris
Denis
Tons of other picks and players.
Colorado never paid anyone an outrageous salary. You could argue that Forsberg might have been overpaid due to injuries, but that's a tough argument. Colorado still has to pay big salaries. We get nothing for all the picks we dealt. Teams like Pittsburgh get to reap the benfits of sucking ass and putting a piss poor team on the ice, by stockpiling picks, and having money. Did they earn any of it? No. It was handed to them by the league. Teams like Ottawa and Colorado who have been well managed for years are essentailly penalized for their success, dealing players and being forced to pay out more cash than the losers.
It's not even. Quality teams start out at a disadvantage, tied to contracts. But in 5 years when all the shit teams are still shit teams despite the welfare payouts given by the cap, The Avs, Wings, Sens, Devils will still be solid teams.
ForzaItalia
Banned
Detroit won't even make the playoffs this year. :lol
Mike Works
Member
Did you just not read what I said at all? I didn't accuse Colorado of being one of those teams that throws big money at big free agents. I said they had an unfair advantage over small market teams because of their payroll? Do you know how much the Avalanche were paying their players in 2003?Drensch said:
$59 million
Yeah.
Hahahaha, guess what "teams like pittsburgh" have been reaping for the past 5-10 years? It hasn't been Stanley Cups or profit margins. You've had a team that's been blessed with a bloated payroll which has allowed them to field a better team than most, and now you're complaining that these smaller market teams which have had to sit back and helplessly watch their good players get signed away, watch their attendance drop and money vanish because they're not able to financially field a competative enough team to win the cup, you're complaining that they have just as good a chance as Colorado and Detroit now thanks to "stockpiling picks and having money". Do you know why they've got all of those picks? Compensation for losing players, producing terrible seasonal records, and missing the playoffs. Man, those bastard small market teams, if only Colorado was lucky enough to field a below-par team that hasn't made the playoffs in over half a decade, then you'd have more draft picks and the ability to sign a pocketful of veteran players to fill up a roster which was comprised of kids too young to get a job at McDonalds last year.
Seriously, you're breaking my heart Drensch.
They shouldn't HAVE to earn a level playing field, that's not something anyone's earned. It's something that's been implemented to make the game more fair, and it's already helped it out immensely. The league and players association didn't hand anything to any team. They bettered the game.
They're not penalized for their success, they're penalized for their bloated payroll. Well not so much Ottawa, because like Vancouver they were a well run and managed team for about $20 million less than the Avalanche.
You sure about that? The Avs and Wings aren't looking too good right now.
Malakhov
Banned
Mike is so right that it's not even funny, he headshotted you.
The difference between your team and the rest like Edmonton for example, is that they took over a franchise that had been stockpiling the draft picks after being mediocre for more than a decade but unlike Edmonton, they had the money to KEEP these players.
The difference between your team and the rest like Edmonton for example, is that they took over a franchise that had been stockpiling the draft picks after being mediocre for more than a decade but unlike Edmonton, they had the money to KEEP these players.
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