soundwave05
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Reilly said:
Yeah ... when you put it that way ... maybe not. The East is a tough division (well they both are).
I think that Aubin kid is actually going to end up being the starter in Toronto.
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Yeah ... when you put it that way ... maybe not. The East is a tough division (well they both are).
I think that Aubin kid is actually going to end up being the starter in Toronto.
soundwave05
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I think Ottawa should sign Gerber now, just in case Hasek retires or gets hurt again.
TemplaerDude
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Thank GOD that over rated hack Jovonovski is finally off this team. "Money is no object" my ass. Goodbye and let the door hit you in the ass you over paid buffoon.
soundwave05
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TemplaerDude said:
Like it or not though, he was far and away your best d-man ... and there's really no big-time no.1 d-men left on the market now (no chance in hell you get Pronger). The salary situation being what it is in Vancouver, not like Nonis could afford it anyway.
Anson Carter is going to want *at least* $3 million.
soundwave05
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Wow, Boston making a free agent splash. The market is drying up fast. Chara, Roloson, Kubina, Jovo, Savard all gone.
TemplaerDude
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soundwave05 said:
You know very little about this team if you think Jovonovski is out "best" defenceman"
Jovonovski was far and away one of the WORST defenceman on this team. He was terrible in his own zone, couldn't pass to save himself, and consistantly made bone headed plays. His only upside was his offensive abilities and they weren't particularily good anyways.
Ask anyone who watches this team (me) and they'll tell you the truth. Ohlund was by far our best defenceman, Salo had much more offensive talent than Jovo, and Bourdon will be far better than Jovonovski ever was.
Easily one of the most over rated defenceman EVER. I was hoping we would sign him and trade him since everyone in the league thinks he is so great.
Pheonix got ripped in that deal and it'll be really obvious once the season starts.
Crazymoogle
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TemplaerDude said:
While I can't really endorse what you're saying, I agree that saying Jovo was "far and away the best defenseman" on the team was a wild stretch. Ohlund is the right answer.
Sigh...we do need some d now though
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Bruins have $32 million tied up in 11 players now including two goaltenders. Bergeron and Boyes aren't signed.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=8125&hubname=
Gainey should make a move for Bergeron at 4M.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=8125&hubname=
Gainey should make a move for Bergeron at 4M.
soundwave05
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MrToughPants said:
WTF is Boston doing if they let Bergeron go like that ... :lol
Edmonton should let Horcoff walk and make a play for Bergeron as well.
Crazymoogle
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Since when was Marc Savard worth 20m? 
How restrictive are the RFA rules now? I know they took out the 5 first rounder penalty (at least I think they did) but is it feasable to make offers to RFA's again? Because damn I think the Flames could scrape together a few mil for Patrice Bergeron, assuming the Bruins are near the cap and can't match (i'm 99.99% sure they'd match instantly).
TemplaerDude
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Sandman42 said:
lmao, please. Coliacovo is terrible. I can't believe how much praise that wannabe gets.
soundwave05
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I don't think Boston's that crazy .... they'll scrap everyone else on their team aside from Chara/Savard now to keep Bergeron.
MrToughPants
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calder said:How restrictive are the RFA rules now? I know they took out the 5 first rounder penalty (at least I think they did) but is it feasable to make offers to RFA's again? Because damn I think the Flames could scrape together a few mil for Patrice Bergeron, assuming the Bruins are near the cap and can't match (i'm 99.99% sure they'd match instantly).
If they offer Bergeron 4M it would mean 2x 1st rounders, a 2nd and a 3rd which is a great deal considering his potential.
Bruins are at 33.2M including McEachern + Green buyouts. They have to sign 5 forwards and 4 defensemen with about 10 million.
Barrage
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I would assume Boston would deal Murray and/or Zhamnov for next to nothing to be able to keep Bergeron and Boyes.
As long as we're talking about RFAs who have almost next to no chance of moving teams, but that people are hoping could move,(and I know this has no chance of happening, but a guy can dream) I wouldn't mind seeing Spezza in Dallas green...
As long as we're talking about RFAs who have almost next to no chance of moving teams, but that people are hoping could move,(and I know this has no chance of happening, but a guy can dream) I wouldn't mind seeing Spezza in Dallas green...
MrToughPants
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Zhamnov and Murray are both over 4m I don't think any GM would want Boston's salary dump.
soundwave05
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I think Boston's plan is this. Dump salary outside of Bergeron + Chara/Savard.
Resign Bergeron. Have a makeshift/low-cost roster beyond that.
As the years go by, bank on the salary cap to increase, so you can then manuever and sign other players around that core and stockpile draft picks. They should have an outside shot at making the playoffs this coming year even with that, provided they get some bounces (ie: one of their goalies plays over his head) ... but the plan seems sound long term.
Resign Bergeron. Have a makeshift/low-cost roster beyond that.
As the years go by, bank on the salary cap to increase, so you can then manuever and sign other players around that core and stockpile draft picks. They should have an outside shot at making the playoffs this coming year even with that, provided they get some bounces (ie: one of their goalies plays over his head) ... but the plan seems sound long term.
Flyers signed Nolan Baumgartner and Lars Jonsson, both defencemen
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=170232&hubname=nhl
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=170232&hubname=nhl
BorkBork said:
well the young talent is gone, yes... but there's still some high quality d-men left. Like Brian Leetch for example. Even though in Vancouvers case, they're in a slight rebuild mode and need defencemen locked up in multi-year deals.
oh and the nucks did sign willie mitchell
MrToughPants
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R_GILL said:
He's still employed with the Sens. :lol
MrToughPants said:
I see, so this is all of Gortens doing. What the hell if he was this good why did stick with MOC so long. So far he has gotten rid of Boynton forChara and Savard. Hes upgraded everywhere and now hes probably going to get rid of Murrays shitty contract.
TemplaerDude
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Ohlund - Krajicek
Salo - Mitchell
Bourdon - (Bieksa, Carney?, Someone else?)
Not a spectacular defence but pretty good. Ohlund is awesome, Salo and Mitchell are pretty good, Bourdon could be amazing, and Krajicek and Bieksa are the wildcards.
Salo - Mitchell
Bourdon - (Bieksa, Carney?, Someone else?)
Not a spectacular defence but pretty good. Ohlund is awesome, Salo and Mitchell are pretty good, Bourdon could be amazing, and Krajicek and Bieksa are the wildcards.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
R_GILL said:
Actually I think he's working for Boston but while employed with the Sens. He's probably calling the shots.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
R_GILL said:
At 2.1mil per year no less :lol
TemplaerDude
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dem said:
Like that's going to happen, I think Florida's line up has been butchered enough.
soundwave05
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Keenan has a hard-on for Pronger, he coached him when he was a young'n' ... he will probably do it, especailly now that Jovonovski is off the market.
Jokinen + Bertuzzi + Pronger ... add say, Biron to that ... wouldn't be so bad, if Bertuzzi actually wakes up. Pretty much a Keenan-esque type of roster.
I think Philly and maybe Tampa Bay would be the other players making strong bids for Pronger.
Jokinen + Bertuzzi + Pronger ... add say, Biron to that ... wouldn't be so bad, if Bertuzzi actually wakes up. Pretty much a Keenan-esque type of roster.
I think Philly and maybe Tampa Bay would be the other players making strong bids for Pronger.
I'm just reasonably happy that, for a change, no NW teams seem to be massively improving themselves. Last year, the trade deadline, the draft... enough with all the teams in the NW upgrading every week! When the damn Wild start to load up you know shit's out of hand.
Thanks to the Avs at least for looking content to slide into cap hell and a .500 record.
Thanks to the Avs at least for looking content to slide into cap hell and a .500 record.
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