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Official NHL Off Season Thread
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soundwave05
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Vancouver's not going to have much of a defense next year. I'm assuming Carter is going to want a similar salary.
That would be somewhere in the ball park of $36 million for about 11 players, and apparently the word out of Vancouver is that Nonis is not allowed to go above $40 million. Jovocop is definitely gone. There also seems to holes at the forward spots. The Sedin-Carter line is solid ... but there doesn't seem to be much left to surround Naslund with.
I assume they'll try and do a salary dump for Cloutier ... but why would you want this guy for $2.5 mill/per when Gerber, Biron, Giguere, Roloson, etc. are availible on the market? He's not good enough to be a no.1 (esp. with the goalies still availible) and too expensive to be a back-up.
That would be somewhere in the ball park of $36 million for about 11 players, and apparently the word out of Vancouver is that Nonis is not allowed to go above $40 million. Jovocop is definitely gone. There also seems to holes at the forward spots. The Sedin-Carter line is solid ... but there doesn't seem to be much left to surround Naslund with.
I assume they'll try and do a salary dump for Cloutier ... but why would you want this guy for $2.5 mill/per when Gerber, Biron, Giguere, Roloson, etc. are availible on the market? He's not good enough to be a no.1 (esp. with the goalies still availible) and too expensive to be a back-up.
soundwave05
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There isn't much money left to add any high scoring forwards. If Carter resigns at $3 mill ... you'd only have an average of under $500,000 to spend on the rest of your roster (11 other players) with a $40 million budget.
You're not going to get another scorer at that price. Luongo is an upgrade in net, but your D will take a hit, and your offense as well. Not a big fan of Bert, but the guy was definitely good for 20 goals/60-70 points a season. With him gone, the Canucks are a 1-line team.
You're not going to get another scorer at that price. Luongo is an upgrade in net, but your D will take a hit, and your offense as well. Not a big fan of Bert, but the guy was definitely good for 20 goals/60-70 points a season. With him gone, the Canucks are a 1-line team.
soundwave05
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BorkBork said:
The cap is $44 mill, but the Vancouver ownership apparently is only willing to spend $40 mill. Which is not unusual. Most teams will not spend the full $44 million.
You have to remember the Canucks earned $0 playoff revune, which is precious for any franchise so their ownership is probably a little reluctant to spend the full cap on a team that might miss the playoffs for 2 straight years.
Even if they did spend the full cap though, getting a no.1 D man and another top flight forward or two would still be incredibly hard within that framework. If you resign Carter at about $3 million/season ... you're only left with an average of $730k or so per player to fill out the other 11 roster spots, even with a full $44 million budget.
bishoptl said:Who needs D?
With Roberto (only friends get to call each other by first names) in the pipes, the Canucks can trade the entire defensive corps for forwards and drown the rest of the league in goals. Brick it up, Rob!
Yeah, because Luongo has been so awesome with Florida's horrid defense.
If his name was Dominik Hasek, then I might agree with you.
soundwave05
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Even Hasek wouldn't be that good with an average-poor defense. No goalie is.
The teams he played for -- Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa all had good-to-great defense.
The teams he played for -- Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa all had good-to-great defense.
bishoptl said:Who needs D?
With Roberto (only friends get to call each other by first names) in the pipes, the Canucks can trade the entire defensive corps for forwards and drown the rest of the league in goals. Brick it up, Rob!
:lol :lol
"Ok Roberto, be sure to bend at the knee's before you put that on your shoulder's."
soundwave05 said:
Hasek, in his prime, had displayed the greatest performances by any goalie to ever play hockey. To suggest Buffalo would have still been a playoff caliber team without him is quite possibly the most stupid statement any human could make. Buffalo literally had to win every game 2-1. Obviously, Hasek is probably incapable of carrying a team now at the age of 41. That said, Detroit would have not won the cup without him.
soundwave05
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Reilly said:
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying Buffalo was still at least an average to above average defensive squad (for starters they actually HIT opponents) ... Hasek definitely was the franchise player, but it's not like the Buffalo defense left Hasek out to dry all night.
Hell, Calgary plays that way too, they rely on Kipper to win games for them, but that doesn't mean they play matador defense like Vancouver does.
BigJonsson
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FREE AGENCY HAS BEGUN!!!!
soundwave05
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Edmonton Oilers have resigned playoff leading scorer Fernando Pisani to a 4-year-deal for a reasonable $2 mill/per.
Nice.
Nice.
ForzaItalia
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Reilly said:
Didn't Detroit win a Cup with Vernon in 1997 and Osgood in 1998 as their starting goalies?
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R_GILL said:
They could have won the Cup without Hasek too. It's not as if he stole a series for the Wings that year.
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R_GILL said:
Yep. That's why Reilly is wrong by saying Detroit wouldn't have won the Cup without him. If anything, he went there because he knew the Cup was pretty much a lock for Detroit. Cujo thought the same thing but by then Detroit had started to decline.
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Speaking of goalies, here is the list of regular season shutout leaders. You guys think Brodeur will pass Sawchuk before his career ends?
1. Terry Sawchuk 103
2. George Hainsworth 94
3. Glenn Hall 84
4. Jacques Plante 82
5. Tiny Thompson 81
6. Alex Connell 81
7. Martin Brodeur* 80
8. Tony Esposito 76
9. Ed Belfour* 75
10. Lorne Chabot 73
11. Harry Lumley 71
12. Dominik Hasek* 68
13. Roy Worters 67
14. Patrick Roy 66
15. Turk Broda 62
16. John Ross Roach 58
17. Clint Benedict 55
18. Bernie Parent 54
19. Ed Giacomin 54
20. Ken Dryden 46
*Still active
Shit, and as for career playoff wins go, I never knew Patrick Roy dominated by so much:
1. Patrick Roy 151
2. Grant Fuhr 92
3. Martin Brodeur* 89
4. Billy Smith 88
5. Ed Belfour* 88
6. Ken Dryden 80
* Still active
1. Terry Sawchuk 103
2. George Hainsworth 94
3. Glenn Hall 84
4. Jacques Plante 82
5. Tiny Thompson 81
6. Alex Connell 81
7. Martin Brodeur* 80
8. Tony Esposito 76
9. Ed Belfour* 75
10. Lorne Chabot 73
11. Harry Lumley 71
12. Dominik Hasek* 68
13. Roy Worters 67
14. Patrick Roy 66
15. Turk Broda 62
16. John Ross Roach 58
17. Clint Benedict 55
18. Bernie Parent 54
19. Ed Giacomin 54
20. Ken Dryden 46
*Still active
Shit, and as for career playoff wins go, I never knew Patrick Roy dominated by so much:
1. Patrick Roy 151
2. Grant Fuhr 92
3. Martin Brodeur* 89
4. Billy Smith 88
5. Ed Belfour* 88
6. Ken Dryden 80
* Still active
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Domi...still a moron:
Now he's tight with Dan Marino too:lol
Now he's tight with Dan Marino too:lol
:lol I knew it! Domi is already explaining his decision to not retire like he said he would over and over again whenever he was the subject of trade rumours. His new best friend Dan Marino told him to play, so play he will!
Free agency starts in an hour, can't wait for the signings to happen. Can't imagine Darryl will get us a #1 center (Arnott?) but it's nice to dream.
Free agency starts in an hour, can't wait for the signings to happen.
Can't imagine Darryl will get us a #1 center (Arnott?) but it's nice to dream.MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Roloson/Langenbrunner/Bouillion resigned with their clubs.
Chara signs with LA
Chara signs with LA
soundwave05
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Kings apparently paid $8 mill for Chara ... no way that can be right. That's insane.
soundwave05 said:
8 MIL?! No way he's worth 8 mil there...
Edit: TSN reports Chara is going to the BRUINS. $7.5 per season, 5 year deal.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=170211&hubname=nhl
soundwave05
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$7.5 mill for 5 seasons ... wowza.
Pronger at $6.25 million is going to be a bargain for whoever gets him.
Pronger at $6.25 million is going to be a bargain for whoever gets him.
soundwave05
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Jovonovski to the Coyotes
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=170212&hubname=
5 year deal.
I have a feeling Pronger is going to Florida now. Bouweemester + Horton would be a decent package .... 30 goal-ish scoring center, solid big d-man both in their early 20s.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=170212&hubname=
5 year deal.
I have a feeling Pronger is going to Florida now. Bouweemester + Horton would be a decent package .... 30 goal-ish scoring center, solid big d-man both in their early 20s.
soundwave05
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Reilly said:
Never gonna happen. The deals guys like Chara are getting are only making Pronger more valuable. Lidstrom is likely going to get $8 million now and Pronger outplayed him in the playoffs and is several years younger.
soundwave05
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Reilly said:
... OK, maybe Pronger is going to Tampa Bay now :lol
Pronger for Lecavalier ... do it, Lowe.
soundwave05
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Toronto will be solid next year, probably a 6-8 seed in the East ... their forwards aren't so hot though.
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