It doesbt need extensive research. Had she ever download any game from apple store at all? Cause i remember majority of have have some kind of in app purchase.
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Official Nintendo PR: 40 million downloads of Super Mario Run in 4 days
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It doesbt need extensive research. Had she ever download any game from apple store at all? Cause i remember majority of have have some kind of in app purchase.
If you walk into a shop of stuff that looks great, but it's priced too high, you'll just leave. If the same chain opens another store, you'll probably remember your experience and not even bother going in to save disappointment.
I don't see how high downloads but no purchase generates revenue, if a large number of users are less inclined to download the next Nintendo app, it could be more harmful.
Personally, I loved the game but feel it was unfairly priced for a mobile game. If I can only play it at home, I'd sooner have bought a console game for the same price.
Frustration not being able to play the full game without paying is not necessarily bad. It can be temporary, some will keep the app at sight, hesitate, desire Mario.
The app is now there for as long as iOS exists. There will likely be discounts at times. 200 millions iPhones are sold each year, some to new owners, new teenagers, new Nintendo customers.
It will take years to assess how much SMR will have served Nintendo.
But what about compared to hardware sales since the snes?
Greninja96
Banned
This is impressive. Congratulation Nintendo.
Some of you are downplaying Pokemon success when its only been released in 3 or 2 countries in the first few days. Not a fair comparison
Some of you are downplaying Pokemon success when its only been released in 3 or 2 countries in the first few days. Not a fair comparison
Source?
An analysis firm that pegged the download numbers at a lower level
ThatStupidLion
Member
How many of them bought it?
Notor!ousG
Member
Even if only a handful of people buy the full version, this is great for Nintendo.
Their new strategy for raising brand recognition is panning out this way.
Their new strategy for raising brand recognition is panning out this way.
Diprosalic
Banned
but how many miles did mario run?
how many toads got collected?
we need some real numbers here.
how many toads got collected?
we need some real numbers here.
I don't have numbers, but based on my friend circle, most have either downloaded and uninstalled at the pay wall, or those that knew in advance just didn't bother downloading. All gamers and Nintendo fans.
It's a shame. It will sell and get tons of downloads, but the biggest mobile gamers won't really give this a look in, only die hard fans. Nintendo should be aiming to convert Candy Crush and Pokemon players to Mario Runners.
App Annie had $14 million revenue after 3 days, which is roughly 1.4 million sold.
It gets people paying attention to the brand, which benefits other Mario products like the upcoming console game.
hanspampel
Banned
maybe nintendo will realize finally
their ips are very appealing, their hardware and platform, not at all
people don't buy nintendo hardware, because they want to or like it. just because they forced to and can't get the games anywhere else. that is not the best approach imho
i would buy mario cart instantly on ps4 or xbox one. but i would never buy a nintendo console especially not for a higher price
not sure how long that business model will work for nintendo
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Still the biggest IP in gaming by a country mile. Well done Mario, there's still life in the old dog yet 
Not my experience. I have 3 friends who sent me their code. I'd probably have many more if SMR used Facebook to add friends, it's weird they didn't do that.
Oh god yes please.
It's not, and it won't be.
If people are salty about a $9.99 app, I don't think they will rush out to get a $199.99 console for the next Mario game. But yes, brand awareness is good but who doesn't know Mario?
And to be more fair, like 80% of smartphone users do not have access to this game yet.
Plus the mindshare in the general public is worth more then the few million of those who will actually pay for the app.
Still the biggest IP in gaming by a country mile. Well done Mario, there's still life in the old dog yet
Let's not go that far. Pokemon is also a bigger ip than Mario.
And other analysis firms had different numbers. Why is this one any different?
Considering they've had less years of operating loss than Sony and Microsoft's games divisions, it seems to be doing well.
Hell, their operating loss was because they sold the 3DS at a loss and it took off
Wonder if this gives Nintendo a wake up call of sorts... seeing how popular their IP is versus what they do on their own consoles. If they'd sold this for $1 I can imagine at least half the people who'd downloaded for free would have simply bought it outright without even thinking. A LOT of money to be made.
You could say the same thing about Pokemon, but look at what happened there.
Joelstinton14
Member
It does, if you go into add friends, and to link account segments you can add friends through FB
This.
At $9.99, they are mostly selling to the current Mario/Nintendo die-hard fan base, most likely those old enough to have an income. Kids who play on ad supported games can just about afford to, or will buy a $2 dollar game, so no chance at that price when they can get any other runner for free.
it was sold mostly to existing 3DS owners, so basically nothing happened
Shikamaru Ninja
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It's not. No Pokemon game has ever sold as much as NSMB or Mario Kart.
Oh great, thanks!It does, if you go into add friends, and to link account segments you can add friends through FB
I think analysts and investors have been shown to be extremely overoptimistic about anything concerning Nintendo and mobile, and that it would take some ridiculous conversion rate to not disappoint them.
Literally none of the suits in my office who were running around playing Pokemon Go went out to buy a DS and play Pokemon. I was incredibly surprised to see said suits playing Pokemon, but they did so because it was free and a huge buzz.
Mario isn't free, it's very expensive and no one is talking about it. Pokemon was all over the news and a hot topic.
If they sold it at 1 dollar and half the people who downloaded it buy it, that's 20 million dollars before Apple's fees.
Super Mario Maker sold over 3.5 million worldwide on the WiiU at 60 bucks a copy.
Joelstinton14
Member
No worries man. It was actually broken for the first couple of days though, it kept crashing the game, but it was fixed in the latest patch.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I think I remember seeing these same things said around the launch of Pokemon Go...then the 3DS had 5 consecutive months of YOY increases and Sun/Moon has the biggest launches in the series' history.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Of course, but IAP for consumables or cosmetics is a different setup than having what is essentially a demo with the bulk of the game behind a wall. Again, it's something we might be familiar with from years of PC and console gaming but in this particular genre, on this particular platform this setup is less familiar, I'd argue.
I don't have a problem with the structure - I hate ad-supported titles and would rather pay a reasonable price for a game after a free "taster" - but I think it's fair to say that App store (and more particularly, Android) consumers would perhaps be expecting free-to-play with consumables/cosmetics rather than free-to-start, and any lack of clarity leads to the anecdotal story I started with.
No Mario game has sold 10 million in one week. Anyways, let's not get into this.
Stallion Dan
Member
Should just make it a pay app, no "Here download this it's free, psych not really, pay up!"
Triggerhappytel
Member
Good grief; that would be insane. And probably quite shit, from a game design perspective!
We should learn more about this in their next financial report, right?
Astral Dog
Member
I wonder if the Switch would be able to run Super Mario Run
LukasTaves
Member
Absolutely.
For example this chart is based off of RUN reaching 25m downloads today vs 40m.
Which is already crushing everything, so I can only imagine how the graph would look updated to reflect the 40m number.
But if they got Mario's numbers so wrongly, who's to say they haven't screwed up on the others too?
I mean, I'm sure Mario is indeed breaking records, but it seems the extent of it is pretty much unknown with such crappy estimates.
Pretty much everyone in my office was obsessed with Pokemon Go, to the point it was disturbing. None of those people got a 3DS. I don't think Pokemon Go converted many people to 3DS owners, but it certainly got more people downloading and huge brand awareness.
Walking around London was like being in a zombie-infested city, pretty much anyone with their phone out on the street was playing Pokemon, mostly because there was zero investment required.
I'm not saying Pokemon Go didn't have an affect on Pokemon/3DS sales, it obviously did, but not in this office of 300 people. But still, everyone was on the app, where as no one is on Mario.