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Official North American Lost Odyssey Thread

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Creamium

shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
2DMention said:
I'm back and forth with this game. the
mini games like the stealth and the torch lighting (which was a real bitch, btw)
totally kill the flow.

This game has me crying, laughing, getting frustrated and angry within a span of 10 minutes.

The battle system is average, the in game currency seems like an afterthought, there's no armor or real upgrades to weapons. Theres nothing to buy. The bosses so far require specific strategies and discourage grinding.

The only reason why I feel compelled to keep playing this game are the dreams, which carry the game and let's face it, without the dreams, this game would be throughly average.

I'm glad I didn't pay full price for this. I've been tempted to turn the game off a couple of times, but the characters and the dreams keep me coming back for more.

Does the special edition come with a pack of tissues and a box that holds all four discs that don't stack them like a big-mac? :lol
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damn, I pretty much disagree with everything you said.

- the dreams are the worst part of LO for me. These walls of text are not what I would call great storytelling that takes advantage of the medium. Granted, the game's story itself isn't the best, but it's better than reading short story after short story. After reading 6 I pretty much skipped all the others.
- game's approach to equipment is minimalistic, but that's what I like about it. Your time in the menus is spent on distributing skills and making rings. The upgrades to your weapons are the fuckton of rings you can assemble. Correct use of rings makes for easy battles. Not having to buy new weapons every couple of hours is a nice change of pace.
- why would you want a bossfight to require grinding? it's nice to not play on auto pilot. Also, apart from the first few bosses the later ones get increasingly easy. A lot of times there's not even a 'specific strategy'.
 
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AkuMifune

Banned
Made it to the middle of disc two over the weekend. Some initial thoughts:

1. This game is totally Final Fantasy. I know that's been said, but it's amazing just how close it is. This follows the classic Final Fantasy formula closer than FFXII did, in fact. Which is good and bad. Good, because I love it, bad because it feels like it doesn't do a whole lot new. What is new is the serious tone of the game and the story, which is the most mature JRPG story I've encountered since FFVIII.

2. This game takes itself very seriously, and I love it for it. The Dreams are amazingly well told stories that would have cost $50 Billion to make into cutscenes. I know people bitch that text is not the proper medium to tell a story in a videogame, but it would have been logistically impossible to tell them any other way. And I don't mind at all, actually I like them. It makes me feel like I'm reading well told fantasy short story every hour or so, which is a great break in the game and gives the characters added weight and depth. I nearly wept at the first one and again in the cutscene after Kaim meets the two kids. Usually in a JRPG when kids bring you home you have to bake a cake or something, here your greeted with a long emotional death sequence that provides excellent motivation for the central character. (Which was nearly undone by the infamous collecting flowers/lighting torches afterwards, but I forgive it, because you could tell that was a scene that needed to be in the game and they were only trying to find a way to make the player a part of it.)

3. Don't like the battle system so far. I mean I like the fact I have to treat every encounter very seriously, and I like the strategy involved, but the rings break up the flow of combat to me. Maybe because I've recently come off a replay of FFX where the battle seemed to be involving but still had a great flow, here the ring timing mini-game takes me out of the battle. I wish the rings benefits were automatic or at least kept the same battle camera.

I'm having a great time with this and can't wait to see what new elements to the game unfold in the later stages.
 
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MrHicks

Banned
AkuMifune said:
The Dreams are amazingly well told stories that would have cost $50 Billion to make into cutscenes. I know people bitch that text is not the proper medium to tell a story in a videogame, but it would have been logistically impossible to tell them any other way. And I don't mind at all, actually I like them. It makes me feel like I'm reading well told fantasy short story every hour or so, which is a great break in the game and gives the characters added weight and depth. I nearly wept at the first one and again in the cutscene after Kaim meets the two kids. Usually in a JRPG when kids bring you home you have to bake a cake or something, here your greeted with a long emotional death sequence that provides excellent motivation for the central character. (Which was nearly undone by the infamous collecting flowers/lighting torches afterwards, but I forgive it, because you could tell that was a scene that needed to be in the game and they were only trying to find a way to make the player a part of it.)
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THIS
the dreams are godly
 
G

gregor7777

Banned
2DMention said:
I'm back and forth with this game. the
mini games like the stealth and the torch lighting (which was a real bitch, btw)
totally kill the flow.
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Never understood all the uproar over the stealth section...it's like a 10 minute section of a 60 hour game. Really, had it not been mentioned so many times in the thread I would never even have noticed it.

The bosses so far require specific strategies and discourage grinding
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I liked this aspect of the game.
 
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Llyranor

Member
The dreams are the main reason I'm still keeping the game, just so I can re-read them again at any time. I might even potentially replay the game at some point years from now, just to go through the dreams in sequence again.
 
D

Dega

Eeny Meenie Penis
gregor7777 said:
Never understood all the uproar over the stealth section...it's like a 10 minute section of a 60 hour game. Really, had it not been mentioned so many times in the thread I would never even have noticed it.



I liked this aspect of the game.
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I actually did forget about the "stealth" section. I was almost done with the game and was reading here on GAF people complaining about that part and I was wondering when I would get to it ..only to realize later that I had already. It never bothered me..
 
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2DMention

Banned
I'm back again to liking this game. Almost gave up on the Experimental Staff dungeon at the end of disc 2. What a pain in the ass. Lots of backtracking.

How much more of this is left? I'm at the start of disc 3. About 20 hours.
 
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gregor7777

Banned
2DMention said:
I'm back again to liking this game. Almost gave up on the Experimental Staff dungeon at the end of disc 2. What a pain in the ass. Lots of backtracking.

How much more of this is left? I'm at the start of disc 3. About 20 hours.
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IIRC, it's about 10-15 per disc.

Disc 2 was my least favorite by far.

Disc 3 is the best story disc, Disc 4 is the best gameplay disc.
 
R

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
Disc 3 is the best, IMO. So much stuff going on at once, lot's of plot development. The best scenes of the game are in this disc.
 
F

funkmastergeneral

Banned
Finally got around to getting this game: Very solid RPG, and I'm actually enjoying the combat system. The main problem is actually getting into combat is a chore with the horrible load times, and combat itself takes forever. The story is pretty mediocre, but this is a JRPG so that's too be expected. The pattern of town-dungeon-town-dungeon is getting old fast (start of disc 3), but like the story is another generic JRPG staple. However, the dream sequences are pretty awesome and I found myself tearing up at a few of them.
 
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BaZZaa

Neo Member
I really loved this game. Disc 3, like many have said, is GREAT! The awesomesauce just keeps coming at you! and I really liked the ending as well.
Never finished the bigg boss in the backyard though, he was really hard as hell!
Never understood the mediocre reviews...
 
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Bay Maximus

Banned
^ Yeah, I never really understood the reviews either, I liked LO alot. I guees it caught some flak for having similarities to FF but hell, that's to be expected. The Gooch needs spill the beans on some some LO2 info soon. I don't wanna play any damn handheld blue dragons.
 
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funkmastergeneral

Banned
Bay Maximus said:
^ Yeah, I never really understood the reviews either, I liked LO alot. I guees it caught some flak for having similarities to FF but hell, that's to be expected. The Gooch needs spill the beans on some some LO2 info soon. I don't wanna play any damn handheld blue dragons.
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Did this game get bad reviews? Because thus far it feels pretty average (though much better then Blue Dragon)
 
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Crab Milk Mickey

Member
funkmastergeneral said:
Finally got around to getting this game: Very solid RPG, and I'm actually enjoying the combat system. The main problem is actually getting into combat is a chore with the horrible load times, and combat itself takes forever.
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Have you tried installing the game? Apparently that decreases the duration of the loading times by a lot.

And I guess I must be one of the few who thought that the story became laughably convoluted (more so than before at least) by the time I reached the third disc.
 
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2DMention

Banned
I'm at the end of the third disc where you have all casters and Mack, and I keep getting wiped out. Am I under-leveled? My guys are like lvl 33. It never lets me run either. This is kind of a pain in aine.
 
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Angela Lansbury

Neo Member
Are you having trouble with the boss at that section, or just the enemies in general?

If just enemies in general, just train until it stops you leveling up, cause you cant over train!
 
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Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
2DMention said:
I'm at the end of the third disc where you have all casters and Mack, and I keep getting wiped out. Am I under-leveled? My guys are like lvl 33. It never lets me run either. This is kind of a pain in aine.
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Yeah, its that ice monster at the end of the ice track right? Pain in the ass. What I did was level up a bit, especially Mack. You can just go to the save point, exit the game, reload and your health and magic will be 100%.

That monster is a pain in the ass if Mack is under-leveled =(
 
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Zoso

It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
I've decided that I'm going to buy this game over winter break. I've been dying for a FFX-style jRPG. I even started a new game in FFX and got to Djose, but I've already played that game through twice and I kind of want a new game. I'm not expecting magic with Lost Odyssey, but I'm really looking forward to playing it :D
 
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Aaron

Member
Zoso said:
I've decided that I'm going to buy this game over winter break. I've been dying for a FFX-style jRPG. I even started a new game in FFX and got to Djose, but I've already played that game through twice and I kind of want a new game. I'm not expecting magic with Lost Odyssey, but I'm really looking forward to playing it :D
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You should love it then. I can't imagine any way LO could be more FFX without actually using FFX's characters and settings. The feel of the game is near identical at times.
 
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JayDubya

Banned
Can't wait to get back to this game. This is what I was playing when my nice HDTV became my nice broken piece of crap. Now as soon as I get done with God of War 2, I plan to go back to this. Last thing I remember was getting Sarah and going through a big cave and now I'm in a town. Disc 2 I do believe, possibly near to Disc 3 because IIRC I've been on Disc 2 for some time.
 
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`Moe Joe.

Banned
This game is my RPG of 2008. The story was more than bearable and the combat system was familiar yet challenging. IMO it did a better job than Square's efforts. Well, beats out Last Remnant by mere inches...

Reviewers are wrong.

Kaim, Jansen, Tolten and Seth <3
 
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2DMention

Banned
Ok, seriously... Fuck this game.
The ruins boss requires you to basically learn break armor or whatever from tolten to beat it. Fine. But no MOTHER FUCKING SAVE SPOT right before the boss?! Every other boss had a save spot ! Not only that, it's supposedly one of the hardest bosses in the game.
I am EXTREMELY close to saying fuck this game and quitting. I mean - Jesus Christ! Every other boss had a save spot before you fight it!
 
P

purg3

slept with Malkin
2DMention said:
Exactly.
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Hmm, I remember not having really any trouble with that boss. I just remember starting off by casting all-generata/all-shieldus/all-barricadus--and then I had my fighters cast powerus on themselves. Then just use normal attacks on those keystone things with rings that do damage against hardened enemies-i think forcea or whatever works too. Once you take those things out, switch to spirit damage rings and take out the main guy. I did have absorb magic and attack on most of my party at the time, along with persistence. Pretty sure I had Kaim and Seth use combo as well. hope that helps.
 
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RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Just finished the game. Good stuff, though I admit I liked Blue Dragon a bit more...

You know who Sed reminds me of? George Carlin.

lost-odyssey-20080212053457563.jpg


george-carlin1.jpg
 
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Zoso

It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
Well I picked this game up yesterday and I'm really excited to start playing it. I told myself I could play it after I finish Psychonauts & Silent Hill 3, and I'm near the end of both of those games, so hopefully Monday I'll be starting this baby. I've really been in the mood for it.


When I picked Lost Odyssey up I also picked up a blank 4-disk case because the original packaging was so horrible. How they ever thought stacking 3 discs and having the 4th in a paper sleeve was I good idea, I'll never know. It's so much better in a proper case.
 
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Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
2DMention said:
Ok, seriously... Fuck this game.
The ruins boss requires you to basically learn break armor or whatever from tolten to beat it. Fine. But no MOTHER FUCKING SAVE SPOT right before the boss?! Every other boss had a save spot ! Not only that, it's supposedly one of the hardest bosses in the game.
I am EXTREMELY close to saying fuck this game and quitting. I mean - Jesus Christ! Every other boss had a save spot before you fight it!
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I just backtracked all the way to the save point. I grinded for a while inside the dungeon then faced that bitch.
 
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2DMention

Banned
Relix said:
I just backtracked all the way to the save point. I grinded for a while inside the dungeon then faced that bitch.
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I don't think it lets you go back once you're in there. I grinded a bunch of levels and learned skills, and beat him. I read the FAQ thinking you needed to hit the boss without knocking out the other things, but you just have to knock out the one that lets him counter melee hits.

I hope the rest of the game isn't too bad.
 
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2DMention

Banned
I think I might quit this game. That artho?? near Numara requires you to have sleep spells, fire resistance, and petrify resistance to beat it. It wiped out 3 of my guys with one fire breath. And I have to fight 4 others. I don't stand a chance, and I don't feel like backtracking to get all the shit I need.

I didn't really care for this game that much anyway. Too many stupid mini-games, and I haven't gotten a dream for 2 discs.

This'll be the 3rd 360 RPG I've quit playing without beating.
 
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Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
^ That's my biggest gripe with the game. It can get so frustrating. I say the rest of the game is more than worth it. For Fire Resistance you need a Warm Vest and learn the skills. Sleep? I think Ming has that spell for default. Petrify Resistance? You can equip someone with an amulet against it.

The game is dynamic so the monsters won't do the same attack every time you play, so you can get lucky and beat four without major hassle.
 
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Creamium

shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
i don't know what boss you're even talking about, people tend to have an easy time with bosses post disc 1. If you get wiped out, is it really too much trouble to equip yourself with the skills to counter his attacks? 4 or the people in your party should be immortals, all of which can learn the anti petrify skill. by now you should even have 20+ skill slots, so you should be resistant to a bunch of stuff. do you just expect to waltz past the bosses pressing A constantly? christ dude, you sound like you really don't want to be playing this game, so yeah maybe it's better if you just quit.
 
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Llyranor

Member
2DMention said:
So you just quit the game? You have to go in there to get the stone so you can get through the ruffs in the ocean.
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Whoops, I thought you were talking about one of the optional dungeons.

Anyway, I think the game was starting to go downhill starting from the last dungeon of disc 3.
Experimental or Grand Staff or whatever

After you beat the arthros, luckily, the world opens up and you can do a bunch of optional stuff. Emphasis on optional. There wouldn't be much left to the game otherwise. Unfortunately, by this time, I was so fed up with the tedious battle system and awful dungeon pacing (everything takes forever, from the actual animations, to the loading - everything just takes longer than it should). By the final dungeons, I was just using Gfaqs to check out the fastest way to go through them. I never do this - I just couldn't stand the tedium of the game anymore, which is a bad sign. Clocked the game at 60 hrs. Probably 20 hrs too long, or even more.

Enjoyed the game, keeping it to replay the dreams when I want to, but awful awful pacing.
 
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Sydle

Member
I'm at the last save point before the
hall of mirrors
. Before I finish it and likely shelf it forever (enjoyed it so much, but I'll never play through it again) is the DLC worthwhile? I know of the Seeker of the Deep dungeon, so what else is there?
 
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Llyranor

Member
One of the DLC is free IIRC. Has a few items including a dream.

One is 200 pts or so. Also a few items and a dream. I think one item lets you rewatch cutscenes.

I thought the dreams were worthwhile.
 
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FateBreaker

Member
what the hell at the bitching of the difficulty? seriously? i mean no offense, but this game was incredibly easy. the anthros were no exception. huh.
 
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Zoso

It's been a long time, been a long time, been a long lonely lonely lonely lonely lonely time.
Just started this game tonight and I love it so far!

I've only played for 1.5 hours and I've just been exploring Uhra. The intro was incredibly intense and really quite captivating. I love the art style and music so far. I haven't had much experience with the battle system, but I like what I've played so far. I went ahead and installed it and the loading is very short. I had heard complaints of 10-20 second loading, but so far the max I've experienced is ~5 seconds, which is nothing, imo. The graphics are very impressive and I love the interactivity of Uhra - The fact that there are a lot of random objects to kick and knock over is a big plus to me. The playground in Uhra was also awesome. I was really entertained kicking that ball at NPCs and trying to line up that block toy thing - I love useless things like that in games. So far the story has me slightly interested, but I'm not really expecting it to be that great.

My only fear is that I won't have enough time to play this game in the coming weeks and I'll eventually stop playing it and then have a hard time getting back into it. I'm currently on winter break, so hopefully I can finish LO before I have to go back to school. But I really want to take my time with this game, so that probably won't happen.
 
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Sydle

Member
I just beat this incredible game. I'm going to go back for the Seeker of th Deep dungeon and to finish up the last few achievements.

I'm going to need a sequel, Mistwalker.
 
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Arpharmd B

Banned
FateBreaker said:
what the hell at the bitching of the difficulty? seriously? i mean no offense, but this game was incredibly easy. the anthros were no exception. huh.
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Seperating the men from the boys.

Dunno if I got boss in question beaten. I'm just starting on disc 4. I'm actually stuck and don't know where to go. I ended up on a pretty beach, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere :/
 
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