Count Dookkake
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WrikaWrek said:
People are refusing to understand this.
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Official October 2008 NPD Results
- Thread starter sonycowboy
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People are refusing to understand this.
donny2112 said:Shipped vs. Sold
I guess that explains the software sales trouncing the 360 almost every month this year. It's too bad the 360 didn't have any "game of the generation" to go up against the mighty Wii Play.
Which is still nothing but your estimate for anything outside NPD plus Japan. About as reliable as ioi throwing together a chart . Yea, it's absolutely trouncing the 360 YTD software sales especially in the 3rd party department and this month as well, whoops.
Count Dookkake
Member
HK-47 said:
I remember talking to some jag-off at Walmart who was gloating that he had snagged 2 PS3s for a grand a piece. This was about a day before the bubble collapsed!
:lol
Good times.
Jtyettis said:
Huh? You're mixing stuff. The chart is what it is. You have a problem with it. Fine. It's estimated. I never claimed anything else and even put the word "estimated" in the chart itself from the very first time I ever posted it. If you don't like it, use the U.S.+Japan chart which isn't estimated by me or put me on ignore.
The chespace comment isn't as much an estimate. It's based off of the very real NPD data that we get each month. It's not exact, because we don't get exact numbers. However when there's often a million or more difference per month with the software totals, it doesn't have to be too exact to get the idea across.
CitizenCope
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Not everyone likes it. If I wanted to play a Mega Man or Gradius level I would play Mega Man or Gradius. Great game for people that like to create shit but I found the gameplay the least bit satisfying in the beta.Kaako said:
BishopLamont
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Well played. :lolMkliner said:
donny2112 said:Huh? You're mixing stuff. The chart is what it is. You have a problem with it. Fine. It's estimated. I never claimed anything else and even put the word "estimated" in the chart itself from the very first time I ever posted it. If you don't like it, use the U.S.+Japan chart which isn't estimated by me or put me on ignore.
The chespace comment isn't as much an estimate. It's based off of the very real NPD data that we get each month. It's not exact, because we don't get exact numbers. However when there's often a million or more difference per month with the software totals, it doesn't have to be too exact to get the idea across.
Of course it is estimated and this is exactly what I said. It is your personal estimate for Europe, Australia, NZ, rest of Asia, Mexico, Latin America, the ME and the rest of WW. I assume you have NPD Canada as well. To date on the software front the only real difference this year has been first party. MS hasn't had any real hits until now and when it comes to third party for YTD we already know MS continues it's lead. This whole idea of trouncing is a joke.
botticus said:
We have MS's total third party software sales for the month and there share to date yea. Unless Nintendo did $177 million in 3rd party for the month plus quite a bit more over that to make up for past months we have a pretty good idea that is the case.
Wii Will Rock U
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I've been tracking this thread for a while and I've given my two cents quite a few times but I am just really shocked at all the people who are saying that this is the end-all-be-all month for LittleBigPlanet and even worse, people are comparing it to Fable 2 whopping numbers (which had an extra week on LBP due to the delay).
That said, LBP was on sale for FOUR days in October and sold 200K. That's great for a brand new IP and whether or not it pushed PS3 hardware at this point is irrelavent since PS3 is clearly in 3rd place and marketing themselves as a "multimedia" system. What's going to be interesting is if LBP makes the top 10 again next month. Advertising is now as strong as ever for the game and now it will have a full month to sell-through.
I'm just making this prediction now and saying that Fable 2 will not be in the top 10 next month and LBP will be. It just seems that people are like OMG LBP NEEDS MOAR SALES when they don't seem to realize it was out four days and due to the delay, a BUNCH of people didn't even know it had released in October anymore.
That said, LBP was on sale for FOUR days in October and sold 200K. That's great for a brand new IP and whether or not it pushed PS3 hardware at this point is irrelavent since PS3 is clearly in 3rd place and marketing themselves as a "multimedia" system. What's going to be interesting is if LBP makes the top 10 again next month. Advertising is now as strong as ever for the game and now it will have a full month to sell-through.
I'm just making this prediction now and saying that Fable 2 will not be in the top 10 next month and LBP will be. It just seems that people are like OMG LBP NEEDS MOAR SALES when they don't seem to realize it was out four days and due to the delay, a BUNCH of people didn't even know it had released in October anymore.
MobiusPigeon
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more bad news for sony's PS3. looks like BR players will be approaching ONE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS this holiday. Frys has 2 on ad this friday that are within dollars range of $200.
CitizenCope
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Wii Will Rock U said:
I think 43 pages in we are well aware that LBP only had a few days sales.
Psychotext
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Sorry if I've got you mistaken for someone else... but you're the one predicting LBP will outsell Resistance 2 in November right?Wii Will Rock U said:
BishopLamont
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You are one cruel mother fucker. :lolThrei said:
plagiarize
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i know i'm dragging up a real old thing here, but Cliffy B has cited RE4 as a huge influence on Gears since before Gears came out. that's how i determine it personally and I love both games.TheExodu5 said:
Wii Will Rock U
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Yes I am. :lolPsychotext said:
I am also the guys singing in the Mega Man 9 song video that was in the MM9 thread a few months back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCuwgng2Bc8
Should you hit me in a month when my prediction is wrong or hit me because I recorded that video? :lol :lol :lol
My first avatar quote?! I am GIDDY with excitement.itxaka said:
CitizenCope
Member
MM9 song was pretty good I must say.:lol
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Wii Will Rock U said:
You have a talent, good sir.
Psychotext
Member
You get a pass for the video... we'll see what happens with the other thing.Wii Will Rock U said:
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I need a recap fellas, are there any available numbers yet aside from the TOP10 (software)?
Mr.Potato Head
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ah i understand.. i definitely see why you say some wii sports game are a blast.. i agree, like wii tennis and bowling is quite fun honestly.. among a few other titles as well> I just misunderstood what you "really" ment i guessfarnham said:
Eteric Rice
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donny2112 said:Huh? You're mixing stuff. The chart is what it is. You have a problem with it. Fine. It's estimated. I never claimed anything else and even put the word "estimated" in the chart itself from the very first time I ever posted it. If you don't like it, use the U.S.+Japan chart which isn't estimated by me or put me on ignore.
The chespace comment isn't as much an estimate. It's based off of the very real NPD data that we get each month. It's not exact, because we don't get exact numbers. However when there's often a million or more difference per month with the software totals, it doesn't have to be too exact to get the idea across.
Hey, I just got home 'bout an hour ago.
What are you guys arguing about, now?
Kifimbo said:
Ooo, what about Ubisoft? Is Ubisoft dropping too? Please say yes.
Zombie James
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omg rite said:
I think even fans of the platform (yes, including the crazies) should lay off the whole "savior" thing. If you're an owner of the system, the software lineup is really starting to add up and you really don't have anything to complain about. The PS3 had a horrible 07, a much better 08, and third parties haven't abandoned it like the 3rd-place systems of the past.
If you want to be a really happy gamer, just get a 360 and enjoy the best games the generation has to offer on both platforms and never worry about what's going to save what ever again.
IMHO, of course.
Eteric Rice
Member
Duck said:
Seems so.
Music games were getting old anyway...
That or the economy is fucking up things.
Or people are saving their cash to buy Christmas gifts.
BishopLamont
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Wii Music - 80k~Dash Kappei said:
Guitar Hero:WT - 540k~ All SKUS
Rockband 2 - 600k~ LTD
Wii version of GT:WT did best with something like 188k~.
Duck said:
To be fair, it was released right at the end of October, and the main crowd for the game aren't the type that necessarily buy games day one. I bet we'll see GHWT in some form in the top 10 for November.
It did nearly catch up to RB2 (total across SKUs) within just a few days of sales.
Version 3.0
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Sigh...another month of bickering and Wii trolling, and delusions about PS3's future sales.
I applaud everyone who is celebrating good sales of good games, or the fact that our little pastime is proving resilient in very tough times.
I, for one, will go against the grain here and celebrate good sales of a game I don't like: LittleBigPlanet. I bought it, hated it, and got rid of it. But I can see that the team put their heart into it, and I wish them great success. Fans of the game shouldn't be defending so hard; it's doing fine.
I'm a little dismayed at Guitar Hero's stumbling start. I hope Activision doesn't read the wrong message there. I can picture them thinking it was a mistake to make it cross-compatible, or to add vocals and drums. The message they hopefully will get is: it's too expensive (duh). I'm sure it'll be one of the top Christmas presents, though.
I applaud everyone who is celebrating good sales of good games, or the fact that our little pastime is proving resilient in very tough times.
I, for one, will go against the grain here and celebrate good sales of a game I don't like: LittleBigPlanet. I bought it, hated it, and got rid of it. But I can see that the team put their heart into it, and I wish them great success. Fans of the game shouldn't be defending so hard; it's doing fine.
I'm a little dismayed at Guitar Hero's stumbling start. I hope Activision doesn't read the wrong message there. I can picture them thinking it was a mistake to make it cross-compatible, or to add vocals and drums. The message they hopefully will get is: it's too expensive (duh). I'm sure it'll be one of the top Christmas presents, though.
Eteric Rice
Member
Kifimbo said:
God damn it.
Wii Will Rock U said:
I think the problem LBP has is timing. It's a new IP that is going to get lost in the hype of Big Fall releases (Gears 2, Resistance 2, COD 5, Rockband 2, GH:WT, etc). 200K is pretty disappointing especially given how well received this game is among hardcore gamers. High review scores, GAF loves it, and still only 200K? The Hardcore gamers already bought it and the casual gamer will pick up a know franchise. I wouldnt expect top 10 sales next month.
I remember a time when Sony and it's hardcore Imps were saying:
this is the year of the PS3
Microsoft has no games for 2008
LBP will end the console war
PS3 will outsell 360 this year
Fable 2 will bomb
Thinks this month is bad? Just wait until next month when Gears 2 kicks the shit out of Resistance 2 in sales. So much for calling it Gears1.5. Another myth that was proven wrong.
Now about those people who said LBP will outsell Gears. It does ahave a one month head start.
this is the year of the PS3
Microsoft has no games for 2008
LBP will end the console war
PS3 will outsell 360 this year
Fable 2 will bomb
Thinks this month is bad? Just wait until next month when Gears 2 kicks the shit out of Resistance 2 in sales. So much for calling it Gears1.5. Another myth that was proven wrong.
Now about those people who said LBP will outsell Gears. It does ahave a one month head start.
Eteric Rice said:
Yeah, but there should be a ton of people with plenty of guitars that just needed to pick up the game. As I recall, everyone was saying the game + guitar pack would far outweigh the complete set numbers because it's Guitar Hero. I think GH Aerosmith did not do Activision any favors and the majority of people don't feel like buying these games 2-3x a year. There could also be quite a few people that assume they need a full band to enjoy this game and don't want to bother.
It will keep selling and could do even better numbers when the holiday season officially starts though the massively different SKUs likely won't help get it at the top spots on NPD like last year.
just tray said:
Gears 2 will still outsell it.
Activision is too obsessed with yearly sequels, however. I was rather surprised to hear their reasoning behind abandoning a lot of those Vivendi IPs. I mean, we all knew they were pushing yearly sequels, but to hear them directly state that they are ONLY interested in IPs that can be released yearly was just, yeah... :\
At least they gave Tony Hawk a break this year (for the first time since the inception of the series).
I'd love to know who made such a foolish prediction. I mean, did ANYONE expect Little Big Planet to outsell Gears 2?! I mean, really??? Both "sides" give the other shit, but I don't think anyone was that crazy.
Gears 2 is an amazing game, however, and deserves its sales. Resistance 2, on the other hand, was pretty disappointing.
360 and PS3 fans should be uniting anyways...