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Official October 2008 NPD Results
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Opus Angelorum
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Apparently Motorstorm 2 sold less than 70k...
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Poor PS3... 
And decent for LittleBigPlanet.
And decent for LittleBigPlanet.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I think they have reached saturation, if you want a rhythm game you probably already have one. The song exclusivity isn't really that much of a driving force, I don't think. I spent $2 on no rain by blind melon the other day. Turns out although I like the song, I probably will never really feel like playing it again in the game.BishopLamont said:
Kill Your Masters
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Nah there will be some 3rd party exclusives. As long as MS/Sony pay for them.alanias said:
Aaron Strife
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:lolDCharlie said:
Warm Machine
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GhaleonEB said:
I actually wonder if Pure outsold it or dented its sales.
gregor7777
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Opus Angelorum said:
Ouch...how many days?
Opus Angelorum
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gregor7777 said:
Not sure, I'll try and find out.
Liabe Brave
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This is the exact opposite of the truth. Developing the same game for two platforms as similar as PS360, rather than one of them, costs less than it earns you back from the extra sales. Why else do you think Microsoft has to pay developers for even timed exclusivity, despite having a commanding unit lead and outselling PS3 most months?travisbickle said:
And even if you were right, decisions that developers make next year wouldn't be visible in the market until 2011, by which time 360's successor will be imminent.
Not even close I'm afraid.Mrbob said:
The first part of this post risks looking really dumb in a few months, the second looks really dumb already.Mrbob said:
Wrong.Rlan said:
Uhh, Wii has an above average tie-ratio and is selling software overall at a faster rate than any other system in history.X26 said:
As much as you want this to be true as some sort of consolation, you're wrong.chespace said:
Boo hoo.chespace said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. Wii has 21 third party million sellers and is selling them at a faster rate (launches aligned) than both 360 and PS3.X26 said:
That too, but 71% of US Wii owners also have a PS2.chespace said:
The problem is that jett seems either unable or unwilling to accept the notion that people can have different tastes than his own. (An issue shared by many people in this thread.)Haunted said:
There's not enough :lol in the world. :lol :lolFartsandwich said:
That's precisely the reason it does count. It's good value for the price. If people want just the controller, you can buy that instead.Jewbacca said:
You don't get to define what a gamer is.Mr.Potato Head said:
Is your ignorance comforting you? Cripes, between trying to use your own opinion as some sort of objective fact and knowing absolutely nothing about game sales, I think you might be in over your head.lawblob said:
Wii is selling software at a faster rate than any other system in history.mrklaw said:
Are you for real? :lolLuckyman said:
I'm amazed at the amount of bitter fanboys who refuse to accept Nintendo being on top to the degree that they have to invent some way for them to tell themselves that Nintendo fans aren't happy either. ("I hate the Wii so one could possibly like it's games!!1") Get over it already, is it really impossible for you to be happy when Nintendo fans are?
Opus Angelorum
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Zen said:
Yeah, I'm not sure what period it covers.
GitarooMan
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I'm amazed at the amount of bitter Nintendo fanboys who got the world domination they want but are still unhappy because Nintendo doesn't get the undying loyalty and respect of every gamer for changing the world.Jokeropia said:
Grecco said:
Oh obviously not, I guess I'm parsing words but I mean MOST of them don't benefit, a few do... and where they do, it's only incrementally a benefit... not enough to justify the losses in other areas.
The exceptions are highly specialized genre benders, like a Trauma Center. A lot of games that purely use the pointer are pretty great too, love my shooters like Ghost Squad/HotD 1+2.
BishopLamont
Banned
Moar tears.GitarooMan said:
omg noobie! User CP > Edit options > Show 100 posts per page.Threi said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
mrklaw said:
Trauma Center, Trauma Center 2 and Boom Blox each need "waggle" far more than any HD game needs HD. Their core games are built entirely around motion control to the point that they'd be substantially different games if you tried to "fake" them using analog control. Ghost Squad and HOTD are both light gun games. They don't use "waggle", but they do use IR. If they were done on another system, they could require an IR peripheral.
Of the remaining ones, I'd argue that Endless Ocean, Mercury Meltdown, and Zack and Wiki could have technically been done without "waggle" but still benefit more from motion controls than they would have from HD firepower. MP3 and RE4 are both games that could have just as easily been released with no motion control at all, true. They're both FPS games. Obviously they could be done on another platform. But pretty universally people have praised what motion control ends to both.
Of the 16 titles Amir0x listed, 5 essentially require IR or motion control, 3 don't REALLY require it but were designed ground up to take advantage of it, 2 of them are conventional game types that motion control has benefited.
Galaxy does not really use motion controls or IR as a main gameplay function, but the subtle uses of both benefit the game, in my opinion. I could do without the shake wiimote to spin move.
Super Paper Mario, Wario, Fire Emblem, and Chocobo really gain no advantage from motion control. The latter two barely use it and in the former two it could be entirely replaced with a button press. I'd also say that while Geo Wars Galaxies was done differently to take advantage of IR, it really doesn't add anything to the game.
I don't see that as a bad ratio for motion control. I think it's like the DS. With the DS some titles use the second screen for info, some use the second screen for double height or double width, some use the stylus, very few use the microphone, some use the "book" layout. Very few titles use all. Some use none and easily could be done on the PSP, but were done on the DS anyway and do not suffer as a result of it. With the Wii, some titles use motion gestures, some use IR, some take advantage of one-handed controls, very few user the speaker. Very few titles use all. Some use none and could easily be done on the HD systems, but were done on the Wii anyway and do not suffer as a result (Chocobo, for instance).
Flying_Phoenix
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BishopLamont said:
I honestly never got this "OMG this game needs to be on a more powerful system because that way it will factually be better" way of thinking. Power doesn't = better and some times certain games look better on less powered tech due to their artstyle. I'd far prefer Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Madworld, Arc Rise Fantasia, Sin & Punishment 2, and Monster Hunter 3 in their current forms then having PS3/360 or even Crysis graphics. Better graphics doesn't always = more immersive. I'm not saying high powered tech isn't needed their is a reason why I've invested so much in my PC. I'm just saying some games are better looking a certain way and playing with a certain formula. And I think that's where the Wii comes in for games that don't really click with 1080p HD 16AA Massive Texture Memory nor games that need 100 miles of openworld adventure or cutting edge A.I. I'd much rather have something that is fun to me, entertains me, and is consistent then just merely crams in bells and whistles to try and impress me (especially since they don't even do so as more so then likely I've played a game that already has gone past it). There are other ways of immersing the player that don't evolve Pixar quality CG cutscenes or photorealistic graphics, and honestly I prefer them at times.
BishopLamont
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Nonsense, there is no such thing as choice on GAF!Threi said:I choose to leave it at 50 posts per page
Eh, I was 100k off...but then again, I thought it would be released a week earlier. But people thinking it would sell over 350k were a bit nuts.
Here's some quotes and graphs from Iwata from the financial results briefing at the end of October.Stumpokapow said:
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You can check out the rest of the translated financial meeting slides and Iwata talk. [nintendo.co.jp]
DeaconKnowledge
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HK-47 said:
...Which some do, but not in enough matter to make it an idea worth entertaining.
DeaconKnowledge
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Also, has anyone asked Private Hoffman when the PS3 will overtake the 360 worldwide now?
Flying_Phoenix
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Threi said:
For me sometimes it does. I'd be pretty pist if the DS Chrono Trigger game took away the originals "pixelation sprites".
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Game. Set. Match.
See you next month guys.
ViperVisor
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Will the major 3rd party devs seriously step up efforts for Wii or mostly stay HD consoles after the big investment and the more limited competition in that market due to those costs. With Wii passing 360+PS3 it is going to have the most games and is it just too hard to fight for your piece of the pie?
I'm glad Wii is Wii. Nintendo should of done some things better but I'll take it. I want the effect of the Wii to be a hamstringing of the industry not a kneecapping.
I'm glad Wii is Wii. Nintendo should of done some things better but I'll take it. I want the effect of the Wii to be a hamstringing of the industry not a kneecapping.