PotatoeMasher
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Full speech text in this post, BTW: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1206150/posts
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Official RNC topic 2.
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Oh my God. Bush's idea of "job creation" is frightening.
He wants to give incentives by reducing costs to businesses which would include shipping all the jobs overseas for cheap labor.
Basically the rich get richer, while everyone else is fucked.
He wants to give incentives by reducing costs to businesses which would include shipping all the jobs overseas for cheap labor.
Basically the rich get richer, while everyone else is fucked.
Catchpenny
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Apparently CNN and C-SPAN plan to cover Kerry's speech tonight, not sure about the other channels. Any word on MSNBC and Fox?
Boogie said:
You're going to expand on that of course, right? I mean, it should be clear to even the most devout Bush supporter. World War II at least had the benefit of borders; specific countries that labeled themselves enemies of the U.S. by either their choice of allegiance, or direct acts against us.
The war on terror is a war on ideology; a war on a tactic. You're basically trying to fight the thoughts and actions of people who live in places as welcome to their ideals as Iran, to right here in the United States. It's much, much harder to fight, and arguably impossible to win using standard military procedures.
And no one in the administration seems to get that. The people who want to hurt us aren't afraid of death, pointing a gun at them will only harden their stance.
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Catchpenny said:
I'm sure they'll all cover his bending of a longstanding tradition!
Okay, there is absolutely no way Kerry is going to win in November. The Bush administration is just too skilled at PR tactics and image control. I mean, did you guys see that entrance? THAT is what the general American public responds to. The guy just stands there and rambles in either complete generalities or massive hyperbole but it won't make any difference in the world.
Edit: Did anyone just see that shot of that guy in the cheese hat with the gigantic scar on his face? What was that about?!
Edit: Did anyone just see that shot of that guy in the cheese hat with the gigantic scar on his face? What was that about?!
aparisi2274
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You know as I sit here and I listen to this speech, I really wish I was 100% behind bush, but if it wasnt for a certain few things that make me lose respect for him, I would be ready to vote today. If he just stopped:
1. trying to get an amendment to ban gay marriage. (I mean, if they want to get married, let them, but leave it up to the states)
2. Indecency. (I dont care if you want to have a watchdog group trying to protect the US from images or scenes that may be to mature for some people, but to have a group that passed a bill that effectively gives the FCC the right to tell me what I can and can not watch or listen to on the radio, then I have a problem)
3. Stem Cell Research (I strongly believe in Stem Cell Research. My friends mom passed away from Cancer, and they wanted to try as a last resort, Stem Cell treatment, but because its "technically" illegal, there was so much red tape, that by the time they were able to try it, it was to late.
So, if Bush would just do a kerry, and flip flop on those issues, then I am all for him. As of right now, I dont really like either candidate.
1. trying to get an amendment to ban gay marriage. (I mean, if they want to get married, let them, but leave it up to the states)
2. Indecency. (I dont care if you want to have a watchdog group trying to protect the US from images or scenes that may be to mature for some people, but to have a group that passed a bill that effectively gives the FCC the right to tell me what I can and can not watch or listen to on the radio, then I have a problem)
3. Stem Cell Research (I strongly believe in Stem Cell Research. My friends mom passed away from Cancer, and they wanted to try as a last resort, Stem Cell treatment, but because its "technically" illegal, there was so much red tape, that by the time they were able to try it, it was to late.
So, if Bush would just do a kerry, and flip flop on those issues, then I am all for him. As of right now, I dont really like either candidate.
Catchpenny
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Tax cuts! New spending programs! What deficit?
Sounds exactly like his first four years.
Sounds exactly like his first four years.
Chesapeake Silt
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Uh... what was that? A heckler?
Baron Aloha
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I'm so sick of hearing conservatives talk about how they are pro-life. Talk is cheap. If they really are pro-life then why don't they actually do something? The republicans control all three branches of government. If they really meant it they could easily make abortions illegal. The pro-life stuff is just words but meanwhile the christians will eat it right up.
Oh shit, did you guys just see the secrect service guys running around?
Oh shit, did you guys just see the secrect service guys running around?
aparisi2274
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Chesapeake Silt said:
Protestor. You know, I really could never see myself so into something that I would risk getting arrested for. It just seems stupid.
But, I respect them. Its their right to voice their opinion.
PotatoeMasher
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Mooreberg said:
Well played!
Baron Aloha
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Mooreberg said:
Conservatives still make up the majority of the SC though. She doesn't matter. They don't need a unanimous vote to make abortion illegal do they? They just need 4 votes. They've got that many.
aparisi2274
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Hitokage said:
OMG!!!!!!
HE lied???? A Politican lied to us? Oh no, and I thought all politicans were truthful and honest.
DAMN
aparisi2274
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Minotauro said:
No because its because every person in there is god damn brainwashed by politics, and the reublicans (which I am), that everytime they hear a part of the speech, they get all misty eyed. I mean thats nuts.
They need five. Rehnquist is the longest serving member on the bench and is likely to be the first one to retire in the next four years (if not next year). So that would still be four votes. Ofcourse, he's not the only elderly member (O'Conner and Ginsburg are up there) but it is still very close.
Outlaw Pro Mod
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Yaawwwn.
I feel for you people, I really do.
PotatoeMasher
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JC10001 said:
That's not really true... stare decisis (a reluctance to overturn a previous SC decision without GREAT evidence) keeps Justices like Sandra Day O'Conner from overturning Rove v. Wade...
Plus, they need 5 for a majority, not four...
PotatoeMasher
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The perfect speech...
He covered all of his bases. Domestic policy, foreign policy, personality, and just a smidgen of counters to John F. Kerry...
A++++ EBAY ASSET!!!
He covered all of his bases. Domestic policy, foreign policy, personality, and just a smidgen of counters to John F. Kerry...
A++++ EBAY ASSET!!!
PotatoeMasher
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Republicans don't botch up balloons...
REMEMBER THAT AMERICA! WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE F'ING BALLOONS!
REMEMBER THAT AMERICA! WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE F'ING BALLOONS!
aparisi2274
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PotatoeMasher said:
Thats one thing about Bush. Whoever his speech writer is, he should get a raise, because when bush reads a speech, he sounds like a god damn genius. When he is speaking out, like on the great lawn, and he is walking to his helicopter, he sounds like someone who should be working the drive thru window at White Castle
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HalfPastNoon said:
Yes
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God bless.
IAmtheFMan
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Well, for what it's worth, this convention has finally solidifed my Ohio-swing, previously undecided vote.
Kerry for me.
Kerry for me.
TheQueen'sOwn
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Wow, that was a good speech!
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IAmtheFMan said:
We celebrate your freedom! Give em hell, Martha!
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