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Official Smashing Pumpkins thread
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Walter Matthau
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TheDrowningMan said:
That's quite a bit to take from 30 seconds.
infiniteloop
Member
lyrics are a bit...meh....
TheDrowningMan
Member
parathod said:
Well, it's the chorus of the song followed by a bit of verse. If it were the intro you wouldn't be able to extrapolate nearly as much.
siamesedreamer
Banned
Certainly intriguing.....
Is Turantula supposed to be the "best" song on the album? Or just the first single?
If its just the first single then I could care less because Bullet was one of the weaker songs on MC.
Is Turantula supposed to be the "best" song on the album? Or just the first single?
If its just the first single then I could care less because Bullet was one of the weaker songs on MC.
TheDrowningMan
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siamesedreamer said:
Just the first single.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
someone post the lyrics! i'm at work so i c an't hear it 
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i DONT approve of those lyrics!
siamesedreamer
Banned
It sounds better than those lyrics imply.
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
TheDrowningMan
Member
Okay, having listened to the clip more....I can't speak for the whole song of course, but I can say that of all of the Pumpkins 'poppier' songs this one's chorus is utterly limp, derivative plop in comparison to all of them. It's cringeworthy.
The dj said the rest of the song is more like bwbw/zero.
Of course he also said it's like Green Day's "Holiday" - what the **** is he on, it doesn't sound like Green Day at all.
I like what I've heard, but it's not enough; 30 seconds is torture! I wanna hear the whole thing.
And yes, TheDrowningMan, that's way too much to assume based on a 30 second clip.
Of course he also said it's like Green Day's "Holiday" - what the **** is he on, it doesn't sound like Green Day at all.
I like what I've heard, but it's not enough; 30 seconds is torture! I wanna hear the whole thing.
And yes, TheDrowningMan, that's way too much to assume based on a 30 second clip.
cubicle47b
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WTF? Anyway, I live about an hour from Asheville and go to the Orange Peel every 3 months so I'll see the show on the 26th.
edit: The Orange Peel is pretty damn small. There's maybe room for a couple thousand people.
Also, about the lyrics: If they're cringeworthy, then what makes "today is the greatest day I've ever known" so much better? Or "she's not sorry, she's happy as a turtle"?
I will say that this song is definitely *not* "crushing you into dust with metal" or whatever, and that in itself is somewhat disappointing. It's pretty poppy, but there does seem to be some intense guitar layering. That said, I don't get the impression that this song is hard. At all. Of course, Billy has meshed different sounds together in a song (for example: Age of Innocence), and 30 seconds isn't enough time to let yourself draw any more conclusions without sounding like a complete moron (see: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=140104&page=1).
This could very well be the song that allows them to be radio friendly, creating new fans, which will in turn allow them to listen to the rest of the album -- which is pretty intense based on everything we've read so far.
I'd really like to hear the rest of this song. We were going to hear it tomorrow, but noooo, they had to push it back a week! Meh.
And I'm still not hearing the My Chemical Romance and Green Day influence. I think too many Pumpkinheads out there are both a. bitter and b. paranoid. It sounds like a poppy Billy Corgan song with Siamese/MCIS-like guitar layering.
I will say that this song is definitely *not* "crushing you into dust with metal" or whatever, and that in itself is somewhat disappointing. It's pretty poppy, but there does seem to be some intense guitar layering. That said, I don't get the impression that this song is hard. At all. Of course, Billy has meshed different sounds together in a song (for example: Age of Innocence), and 30 seconds isn't enough time to let yourself draw any more conclusions without sounding like a complete moron (see: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=140104&page=1).
This could very well be the song that allows them to be radio friendly, creating new fans, which will in turn allow them to listen to the rest of the album -- which is pretty intense based on everything we've read so far.
I'd really like to hear the rest of this song. We were going to hear it tomorrow, but noooo, they had to push it back a week! Meh.
And I'm still not hearing the My Chemical Romance and Green Day influence. I think too many Pumpkinheads out there are both a. bitter and b. paranoid. It sounds like a poppy Billy Corgan song with Siamese/MCIS-like guitar layering.
So, I kind of wish that I hadn't listened to that clip, because it's inevitably much worse than the full song. Or that's what I'm hoping.
Anyway, the residency thing is pretty cool. I'm especially excited that they're encouraging recording, since that'll help the chances of some high quality bootlegs getting into circulation.
Anyway, the residency thing is pretty cool. I'm especially excited that they're encouraging recording, since that'll help the chances of some high quality bootlegs getting into circulation.
TheDrowningMan
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Listening to it more, and I think that the main problem I have with this clip is the absolutely terrible drum beat. It makes it sound like any number of boring, uninspired, no mark rock-hopefuls (or Green Day). I don't expect particularly fantastic lyrics from Billy Corgan, so they're not so much of an issue, really.
As for the drumming, that's where the Green Day thing is coming from, it just sounds naff as ****. It's horrible. You take that out and put something half-decent in its place and it's immediately a lot better. But that this sounds this way might not actually be such a bad sign overall, because I really doubt there's anyway that you could possibly get an entire album of Jimmy Chamberlin drumming in an uninspired manner. That would be completely unprecedented.
As for the drumming, that's where the Green Day thing is coming from, it just sounds naff as ****. It's horrible. You take that out and put something half-decent in its place and it's immediately a lot better. But that this sounds this way might not actually be such a bad sign overall, because I really doubt there's anyway that you could possibly get an entire album of Jimmy Chamberlin drumming in an uninspired manner. That would be completely unprecedented.
The only bad moment Chamberlin has ever had in his career is Last Hard Men. That band was ****ing awful, and seriously, Chamberlin's dumming was so generic that you wouldn't have known it was him if you didn't know what you were listening to.
As for lyrics, while what we've heard so far overall is nothing to go crazy over, I expect some great lyrics from this record.
As for lyrics, while what we've heard so far overall is nothing to go crazy over, I expect some great lyrics from this record.
Mike Works
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yeah, that sounded like an exact mix of smashing pumpkins, my chemical romance, and zwan
siamesedreamer
Banned
Played the same clip here in ATL on 99X radio station for a "listen to the new single soon" teaser.
Sounds better on the radio than that clip on the cpu. Very drummy. Sounds like an extension of a Machina/MellonCollie hybrid.
Sounds better on the radio than that clip on the cpu. Very drummy. Sounds like an extension of a Machina/MellonCollie hybrid.
siamesedreamer
Banned
Yeah, I don't know anything about the different listing options. I figured that if I don't have it on my new laptop, then it prolly isn't very good.
Anyway, I'm definately more excited now because it seems as hard as advertised. And I like how they are trying to bring the brand back......
Anyway, I'm definately more excited now because it seems as hard as advertised. And I like how they are trying to bring the brand back......
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
just heard the 30 second clip. sounds promising to me! but billys voice doesn't sound so great i'll wait to hear the full thing
i'll wait to hear the full thingFrenchMovieTheme
Member
damn where is the freaking song? did no one play it?
distantmantra
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terrene said:
I've had The End on in my office all day in the hopes that they'll play it... why do I torture myself so?
I miss NPR and KEXP.
distantmantra
Member
Foob said:
Yeah, I can also listen to it on my radio, I was just saying how much I dislike the music KNDD plays.
One tiny piece of news is that according to MTV.com, the full title of "That's the Way" is "That's the Way (My Love Is)." Better, I guess -- Corganishly cloying, but better. (http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/smashing_pumpkins/albums.jhtml?albumId=1525393)
Also, laughed at this tracklist for the latest Pumpkins tribute CD:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1558587/20070502/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml
· Panic! at the Disco: "Tonight, Tonight"
· (+44): "I Am One"
· The Academy Is ... : "Mayonaise"
· Deftones: "Siva"
· 30 Seconds to Mars: (track TBD)
· The Bravery: "Rocket"
· Young Love: "1979"
· The New Amsterdams: "Thirty-Three"
· Test Your Reflex: "Ava Adore"
· Ben Kweller: "Today"
· Hawthorne Heights: "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
· Gliss: "Rhinoceros"
Also, laughed at this tracklist for the latest Pumpkins tribute CD:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1558587/20070502/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml
· Panic! at the Disco: "Tonight, Tonight"
· (+44): "I Am One"
· The Academy Is ... : "Mayonaise"
· Deftones: "Siva"
· 30 Seconds to Mars: (track TBD)
· The Bravery: "Rocket"
· Young Love: "1979"
· The New Amsterdams: "Thirty-Three"
· Test Your Reflex: "Ava Adore"
· Ben Kweller: "Today"
· Hawthorne Heights: "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
· Gliss: "Rhinoceros"
distantmantra
Member
terrene said:
I think I've only heard SP on KEXP twice. Rhinoceros once and Drown once. It seemed out of place both times.
John and Cheryl play them plenty! Cheryl, who I've met a few times and helped us set up our on-the-air set, is DJing now so I thought I'd give it a shot. She sent me the press release where you can login to download the officially-released clip from plaympe.com, but she didn't have her account password.distantmantra said:
I remember hearing Bury Me and Siva. It seems like Seattlites are too pretentious to accept any album besides Gish. I know it was indie-released and at that time they had the Sub Pop seal of approval, putting out the 7" and all, but c'mon. Siamese Dream deserves its respect - it's clearly their defining album. It's like only playing Ramones and pretending Rocket to Russia doesn't exist.
What the ****?terrene said:
Deftones' Siva is the only track I have interest in. Then again, Deftones suck at covering SP (see: live version of TAFH that they butchered).
I like the SP picture at MTV.com. It's Billy, James, and Darcy. :lol
The actual correct tracklisting was first listed at amazon.com.
tsp_gatmog
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i like how it isnt a photo with text like all their other covers. it shows a new era of pumpkins
infiniteloop
Member
Diablos said:
You're right, it's awful.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Diablos said:
Global warming subject confirmed. :/
Well, at least he can't touch all of my old SP albums.
edit: The type of the cover just seems so sloppy to me. I'm not sure what they were going for, but I don't think it worked.
edit2: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003585592
distantmantra
Member
Yuck. It looks like the cover art from a 90's European bootleg.
PotatoeMasher said:
Global warming subject confirmed. :/
Well, at least he can't touch all of my old SP albums.
edit: The type of the cover just seems so sloppy to me. I'm not sure what they were going for, but I don't think it worked.
edit2: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003585592
You could've told me that was an Anti-Flag or Bad Religion album cover and I would've believed you.