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Official Super Metroid (VC) Thread of Best Game Ever Made
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AdmiralViscen
Banned
Simply holding jump and tapping left/right does not work as far as I can tell, you have to let go and re-hold jump each time. It seems to be easier to pull off that way than trying to press it without having it held beforehand, but I still suck dick at fucking wall jumping.
WolfofMebu said:Just downloaded it, this will be my first time playing it!
Some pics:
How can the question even spawn in your brain?
It's BLASPHEMY to look at ANYTHING in the wrong screen ratio. ALWAYS play and watch everything at the intended screen ration. Tks.
(i'm just trying to make your life better my friend.)
Red Scarlet
Member
A fun place to practice along with the Etecoons room is the vertical passage right above the old escape shaft. I've never been the best walljumper, but I'll make some little gifs of some from my run.
All I do is jump into a wall, then tap the opposite direction and you will see Samus grab onto the wall and face away from the wall (remember Chun Li when she grabs the edge of the screen? Looks like that.), that's when you hit jump. Almost at the same time but not quite.
All I do is jump into a wall, then tap the opposite direction and you will see Samus grab onto the wall and face away from the wall (remember Chun Li when she grabs the edge of the screen? Looks like that.), that's when you hit jump. Almost at the same time but not quite.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Practicing wall jumping is never fun
I can get by enough to get early Spazer, but I can never link together more than 2 walljumps.
I could never get bomb jumping down in this game either, but I could get together 3 or so in the original. I dunno man.
I can get by enough to get early Spazer, but I can never link together more than 2 walljumps.
I could never get bomb jumping down in this game either, but I could get together 3 or so in the original. I dunno man.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
AdmiralViscen said:Practicing wall jumping is never fun
I can get by enough to get early Spazer, but I can never link together more than 2 walljumps.
I could never get bomb jumping down in this game either, but I could get together 3 or so in the original. I dunno man.
This is going to sound crazy, but try practicing the one-wall walljump. I actually find it easier than the 'regular' walljump.
Red Scarlet
Member
Until 2004, the only way I knew how to bomb jump was to put my controller on turbo...
If you grab the second part of my run, it shows some bomb jump timing and wall jumps. I'll just make some wall jump gifs though.
If you grab the second part of my run, it shows some bomb jump timing and wall jumps. I'll just make some wall jump gifs though.
jaundicejuice
Member
Just offed Phantoon, got the Gravity suit and am now making my way through the water level, whatever it's called.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Dragona Akehi said:
I can see why that'd be easier. I'll try it next time I'm in Crateria.
Red Scarlet said:
I know what the animation looks like, I just don't know how to make my fingers do that.
Make a video of your hands holding the controller in front of the screen
TheGreatDave
Banned
I've been playing about an hour and a half and don't have the charge power, did I miss it or do you get it later than in ZM/Fusion?
Synless
Member
TheGreatDave said:
It's way back in the area where you fought that plant thing that bobs up and down, if you goto the bottom floor that area it is in the left corner area of the map.
*Edit* when I say that I don't mean in the exact room of the plant thing, but the rooms before it.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
You missed it. And it's pretty obvious too.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
AdmiralViscen said:I can see why that'd be easier. I'll try it next time I'm in Crateria.
I know what the animation looks like, I just don't know how to make my fingers do that.
Make a video of your hands holding the controller in front of the screen
I think it's easier if you practice each component of a wall jump at a time. If you think of it as one long sequence of buttons, then your mind might have trouble digesting multiple wall jumps in such a short period of time. Like if you just jump into a wall while spinning, at any point during that fall you can press in the opposite direction and see the usual animation. I'd just keep doing that, getting used to it. Jump into a wall and press the opposite direction. All you have to then do is add on an additional jump (almost immediately) at the end of this to send yourself in the other direction. I used to be awful at wall jumping, but I've reached the point now where I can reel it off in my mind without watching the screen. Jump, D pad, jump. It's simple when you think of it like that.
I actually have problems scaling single walls with a wall jump because I tend to accidentally press up on the D pad, which straightens Samus out. But I don't think there are many places where wall jumping is all that important, so you just have to capture the basics of it.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Tiktaalik said:
Roughly 1:07.
evilromero
Member
The only thing I miss from Fusion/Zero is the auto-run. Having to press a run button makes things a little cumbersome.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Darunia said:
A bunch of yellow doors lie behind you in Brinstar (one by Spore Spawn but you need Grapple, one in the red vertical shaft where you get the Xray scope, and the power bombs you can use right where you get the Morph Ball). Beyond that, you can use it to access the map room in Norfair's first vertical hall, and in the long horizontal room above that you can use the Speed Booster to get to the Ice Beam, which requires power bombs. Then you can finally access the yellow door at the bottom of a vertical shaft past where you use the Speed Booster to get past all those sucky guys to get to Crocomire and get the Grapple Beam).
Naked Snake
Member
I remember when EGM ran a Best 100 Games of All Time feature way back and Super Metroid was #1
I never played it.
I never played it.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Just spent ten minutes trying to do the mockball so I could pick up early super missiles. I don't think there's any other feeling in gaming like doing a sequence break in Metroid.
Red Scarlet
Member
^ did you pull it off?
Having a run button does let you do a couple things you can't without one, though (like the above post).
evilromero said:
Having a run button does let you do a couple things you can't without one, though (like the above post).
evilromero
Member
True. It allows for quick spurts of speed, which Fusion was lacking. But after beating Fusion last night I'm missing the feature.Red Scarlet said:
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Yeah, it's been years since I've last tried it. I think I kept rolling into the morph ball too early because whenever I did it, I lost most of my momentum. When I actually rolled into a ball the moment before I hit the ground, I finally did it correctly. Defeating Spore Spawn with the super missiles is strangley satisfying.Red Scarlet said:
Red Scarlet
Member
Should I play it? I'm doing something stupid in another game, a short break could be handy.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Fuck wall jumping, I'm about to rip my own dick off
Red Scarlet
Member
Just try single ones and you'll get the hang of it. You may be trying to do it too fast which prevents you from doing it. Did you wall jump in Mario 64?
AdmiralViscen
Banned
I can't get more than 2 in a row (single or double wall) without
-pressing away before actually touching the wall
-not pressing jump at the exact right moment
-allegedly pressing up and making her fucking stop spinning
Not for me.
edit: Just strung three, to find a swarm of bugs flying around at the top of the shaft to keep me down. LOL
-pressing away before actually touching the wall
-not pressing jump at the exact right moment
-allegedly pressing up and making her fucking stop spinning
Not for me.
edit: Just strung three, to find a swarm of bugs flying around at the top of the shaft to keep me down. LOL
EphemeralDream
Member
Ugh I hate hidden item systems like this. It's not like every single crack or oddly colored rock in the game leads to an item, plenty don't. Also shouldn't the player be rewarded for being perceptive rather than for being anal?Rindain said:
YOU ALL MUST LEARN MOCK BALL
and various other super techniques
watch the videos here
http://www.metroid2002.com/3/
and various other super techniques
watch the videos here
http://www.metroid2002.com/3/
WHOAguitarninja
Member
AdmiralViscen said:
You don't have to do it very fast. Wait until you actually hit the wall your moving towards, then push the other direction, then jump.
DON'T RUSH IT. It's actually really easy once you get the hang of...most people have a tendency to rush it and THAT is what messes things up.
TheGreatDave
Banned
AdmiralViscen said:
I have a tendency to try and progress as quickly as possible in Metroid. It's my first time!
Red Scarlet
Member
Jump against the wall then press the opposite, you don't have to do it as soon as you are next to the wall. Some people (I don't) stop using their thumb and use the middle and index finger to hover over left and right on the dpad to perform it.
I don't know if these are helpful, maybe in slow motion (grab virtualdub), but here's how I used to wall jump:
http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/walljump.avi (no sound)
I don't know if these are helpful, maybe in slow motion (grab virtualdub), but here's how I used to wall jump:
http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/walljump.avi (no sound)
AgentOtaku
Member
fucking bought and already in Brinstar
jaundicejuice
Member
Whoops I forgot to get the morphball jump I was in such a rush to headon down to Norfair.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Ha I started playing and did like 40 wall jumps in a row right next to the elevator at the very start, then proceeded to walljump my way up the wall to the right of your ship on Zebes. I don't know how you guys are having so much trouble with them. I've only ever played Super Metroid with an awful (awful) PC controller with a circular smushy d-pad (this one), and doing ANYTHING requiring precision was a nightmare. With the classic controller now, though, I can crack them out like nobody's business.
But really, I was kind of stuck by it while merely playing through the first 10 minutes of the game: this might be the best game ever made. Seriously, I'd barely even done anything, but traveling through the wreckage of Metroid-1-Tourian (which I had somehow never recognized until today) somehow just set that impression in my mind. The music, the atmosphere, those little things crawling out of your way, Brinstar coming alive after you get the morph ball... it's just perfect. There are no other words for it.
..so I don't think I'll say any.
But really, I was kind of stuck by it while merely playing through the first 10 minutes of the game: this might be the best game ever made. Seriously, I'd barely even done anything, but traveling through the wreckage of Metroid-1-Tourian (which I had somehow never recognized until today) somehow just set that impression in my mind. The music, the atmosphere, those little things crawling out of your way, Brinstar coming alive after you get the morph ball... it's just perfect. There are no other words for it.
..so I don't think I'll say any.
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