Official Week 10 NFL Thread - The Manning/Brady Saga Continues...

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RBH said:
BAL @ CLE - Who is the retard that decided to put the Browns on MNF? :|
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How quickly you forget the MNF game against the Giants last year.

I have no idea. However much he's getting paid, it's too much. Thank God the massacre will probably be blacked out here.
 
MaestroRyan said:
Really? We could beat 14/16 NFC teams 100% of the time with Tarvaris Jackson at QB. We're that filthy. We're legitimately three deep at WR, we've got the best RB in the game. If Favre goes down next week, we still win the Super Bowl.
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Wow, I've heard of trauma victims selectively blocking out bad memoried but this borders on scary. I'm afraid if Jax ever does take a snap all the memories of his actual play will come flooding back and you'll stroke out.

The real worry isn't Favre being unable to play, its him playing hurt. His streak comes before all. Just ask Jets fans.
 
eznark said:
The real worry isn't Favre being unable to play, its him playing hurt. His streak comes before all. Just ask Jets fans.
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MaestroRyan said:
Really? We could beat 14/16 NFC teams 100% of the time with Tarvaris Jackson at QB. We're that filthy. We're legitimately three deep at WR, we've got the best RB in the game. If Favre goes down next week, we still win the Super Bowl.
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Regardless of who their qb is they would still lose to Pittsburgh. It would be a close game though between Mendenhall's fumbles and Brent's INTs, but in the end Pittsburgh finds a way to win the big games and Brent finds a way to give them away and that is the difference.
 
I'm going to the game this weekend, so I hope Favre plays. I didn't pay bottom dollar prices to see TJack!
 
I was on the interstate all day yesterday and didn't hear about this - Favre possibly hurt, eh?
Just two days ago I was poring-over details of the home field advantage rules, and now this. This could be a gift.
 
My prediction for the Steelers/Bungles is entirely dependent on Rashard's butterfingers.

If he does not fumble the Steelers win by 10+. If he fumbles twice than the Bungles win by the hair on their dirty backs (meant to convey a very narrow margin).

I did like the fact he is learning to go down at least, but every time he runs with the ball I am terrified.
 
Spectral Glider said:
Oh god, and then when Favre plays and the Vikes win we have to listen to how even more amazing he is. I think it's all a farce.
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When the credits roll on Super Bowl XLIV, Freddie Prinze Jr will be featured prominently.

Some day someone will blow the whistle, and you will all acknowledge my right-ness.
 
captive said:
Awesome. Pereira admits refs were wrong in philly
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/12/pereira-admits-error-in-cowboys-eagles-game/
but the one that was easier to make he defends.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/11/nfl-defends-call-on-moats-fumble/
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Except that, again, the video evidence they had at the time couldn't conclusively show that the ball had touched Bethea. Even that blog you pointed to shows that Bethea went out of bounds during the tackle, but it doesn't show the ball touching him.
 
MaestroRyan said:
Really? We could beat 14/16 NFC teams 100% of the time with Tarvaris Jackson at QB. We're that filthy. We're legitimately three deep at WR, we've got the best RB in the game. If Favre goes down next week, we still win the Super Bowl.
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Even FMT isn't this bad this whole post is just :lol
 
Mr. Snrub said:
Except that, again, the video evidence they had at the time couldn't conclusively show that the ball had touched Bethea. Even that blog you pointed to shows that Bethea went out of bounds during the tackle, but it doesn't show the ball touching him.
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exactly. Since when does the NFL change the ruling on the field without conclusive evidence?

great comment explains it in the profootballtalk.com comments
The ref's call on the field was the Texans had the ball. In order to reverse the call, there had to be indisputable evidence of each of the following:

1. Moats fumbled the ball before going out of bounds. I agree the replay indisputably shows this. But that's not the end of the story. The call on the field was that the Texans had possession. In order to establish that the Colts should gain possession, more is needed. To wit,

2. The Colt tackler was not touching the loose ball while any part of himself was out of bounds. If any part of him was out of bounds when he touched the loose ball, the play is immediately over and the Texans keep the ball because the Colts did not gain possession of it prior to being out of bounds. This is where Pereira runs completely off the rails. He said there was no conclusive evidence that the tackler was out of bounds when he touched the ball, but that's not the question. Because the call was "Texan football", there had to be indisputable evidence that the tackler WAS NOT out of bounds when he touched the ball. There is no way the replays could be said to establish, indisputably, that the tackler was completely in bounds when he touched the loose football.

3. That the Colt who subsequently recovered the ball was established in bounds. I think the replay shows that he was (though it may be a closer call than #1), but this shouldn't matter in light of #2.

If the refs did the replay correctly, this should have been their official explanation:
"After further review, the ball-carrier did fumble before going out-of-bounds. However, the loose football was touched by the tackling player, and there is no indisputable evidence that the player was in bounds at the time he touched the ball. Therefore, the ball is spotted at the point where the tackling defender touched the ball, and the offense retains possession."
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Agree to disagree or whatever.
The game is over, but it would be nice for the NFL to admit they were wrong, in several cases in this one call.
 
bionic77 said:
My prediction for the Steelers/Bungles is entirely dependent on Rashard's butterfingers.

If he does not fumble the Steelers win by 10+. If he fumbles twice than the Bungles win by the hair on their dirty backs (meant to convey a very narrow margin).

I did like the fact he is learning to go down at least, but every time he runs with the ball I am terrified.
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You worry too much.

Most of his fumbles have been Redzone fumbles, but I think Tomlin realizes this and will try to keep hip from goal-line scoring attempts. I expect Moore to take most of the Redzone snaps.
 
That Patriots helmet looks like what Evel Knievel would wear if he payed for NE.

And fuck that guy anyway. The Bucs uniforms went from the worst in the league to the best. Looking at all 3 of those redesigns that he thinks is better it's obvious the guy has no sense of style at all. they are all horrendous.
 
bionic77 said:
My prediction for the Steelers/Bungles is entirely dependent on Rashard's butterfingers.

If he does not fumble the Steelers win by 10+. If he fumbles twice than the Bungles win by the hair on their dirty backs (meant to convey a very narrow margin).

I did like the fact he is learning to go down at least, but every time he runs with the ball I am terrified.
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I'll tell you how the game will go.

We will score a touchdown on our opening and proceed to dominate the first half of the game, going up 14-17 points and limiting the Bengals to a field goal or single TD. In the second half, the Steelers will be putrid on both sides of the ball. By the last half of the fourth Quarter, the game will be relatively tight with the Bengals only down a single score. From that point on, the Steelers will begin to click again, offensively and defensively, and put the game away for good.
 
Change the color of the feathers in the Redskins logo to their current colors now, and it wouldn't look so bad. Black doesn't fit. Same with Tampa's.
 
Applesauce said:
They have Mario Williams ranked 4th overall in defensive ends, so clearly this site is full of shite.
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I'm having a hard time telling if you're serious or being sarcastic.
 
Is the quality of the NFL.com Sunday Night Football "Live" games any good?

It looks like they have an HD option now. If I have to have a heart attack, I'd rather have it in the comfort of my own home.
 
captive said:
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I'm having a hard time telling if you're serious or being sarcastic.
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I'm being sarcastic, that site shows he's been a pretty effective pass rusher which seems to contradict what a lot of people are saying about him based on sacks only.
 
Applesauce said:
I'm being sarcastic, that site shows he's been a pretty effective pass rusher which seems to contradict what a lot of people are saying about him based on sacks only.
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ok, wasn't sure.
Never know sometimes around here.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
You worry too much.

Most of his fumbles have been Redzone fumbles, but I think Tomlin realizes this and will try to keep hip from goal-line scoring attempts. I expect Moore to take most of the Redzone snaps.
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Dude have you seen the way he carries the ball? Half of the time it seems like he is only holding onto the ball with 3 fingers and he has his arm full extended.

The way the guy carries the ball is horribly flawed. You cannot hold the ball that way and allow your arm to get that far from your body and expect to hold onto it consistently. He is getting a little better but he is way too careless with the ball.

And btw you act like redzone fumbles are somehow better than other fumbles. Shouldn't they considered the worst kind of fumble because you are losing a guaranteed 3 points and a chance at 7? If we would have lost that game against the Vikings you could have pointed at the Mendenhall fumble as the biggest reason behind it.
 
bionic77 said:
Dude have you seen the way he carries the ball? Half of the time it seems like he is only holding onto the ball with 3 fingers and he has his arm full extended.

The way the guy carries the ball is horribly flawed. You cannot hold the ball that way and allow your arm to get that far from your body and expect to hold onto it consistently. He is getting a little better but he is way too careless with the ball.

And btw you act like redzone fumbles are somehow better than other fumbles. Shouldn't they considered the worst kind of fumble because you are losing a guaranteed 3 points and a chance at 7? If we would have lost that game against the Vikings you could have pointed at the Mendenhall fumble as the biggest reason behind it.
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I get antsy myself when Mendenhall is in the redzone, that's why I said I expect Moore to get the Redzone snaps. I still think he's improving every week though.
 
Wait....Haynesworth, Landry and Mike Smith all fined for that sideline fracas, but......nothing for DeAngelo Hall? Weird.
 
Tamanon said:
Wait....Haynesworth, Landry and Mike Smith all fined for that sideline fracas, but......nothing for DeAngelo Hall? Weird.
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If I read it correctly, Hall was actually pretty quick to get out of there after the late hit.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
I get antsy myself when Mendenhall is in the redzone, that's why I said I expect Moore to get the Redzone snaps. I still think he's improving every week though.
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It would be great if Moore got the Redzone snaps this year. Kind of like when Willie Parker would do the heavy lifting between the 20s and then Bettis would get the TDs in the redzone. I would not mind seeing that switch happen until Mendenhall becomes better at holding onto the ball.

Plus Moore runs great routes on 3rd down and would be a great checkdown guy for Ben near the goal line.

Lets pray that Tomlin and Ariens read this message board and take advantage of our collective wisdom.
 
Mr. Snrub said:
If I read it correctly, Hall was actually pretty quick to get out of there after the late hit.
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Yea, looking at the video, he really was just trying to pull Landry out and leave, and the one Atlanta coach (Fish) grabbed him by the arm and pulled him back into the circle of players. Then Mike Smith went over and start pushing him.

DeAngelo acts like a douche in general, so he shouldn't be surprised his presence alone would escalate things, even if he was trying to do the right thing. But there's absolutely no reason Smith needed to be over there. He looks like a prick in the video, acting like Matt Ryan got horsecollared or worse by Landry. It's fucking football you whiny bitch.
 
bionic77 said:
It would be great if Moore got the Redzone snaps this year. Kind of like when Willie Parker would do the heavy lifting between the 20s and then Bettis would get the TDs in the redzone. I would not mind seeing that switch happen until Mendenhall becomes better at holding onto the ball.

Plus Moore runs great routes on 3rd down and would be a great checkdown guy for Ben near the goal line.

Lets pray that Tomlin and Ariens read this message board and take advantage of our collective wisdom.
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To be fair, I think Miller should be the #1 checkdown guy. Unbelievable hands. But yes, Moore AND Miller in on X and goal situations is just sick. Throw in Ward and you have a 1,2,3 combo of epic proportions.
 
bionic77 said:
Lets pray that Tomlin and Ariens read this message board and take advantage of our collective wisdom.
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Bruce Arians takes suggestions from no one! Well, thankfully, no one except Big Ben. I just wish Ben would call him on some of his crap more often.
 
Takeda Kenshi said:
To be fair, I think Miller should be the #1 checkdown guy. Unbelievable hands. But yes, Moore AND Miller in on X and goal situations is just sick. Throw in Ward and you have a 1,2,3 combo of epic proportions.
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Miller isn't the fastest guy and doesn't always get the seperation you need for that checkdown throw. I mean when is the last time you saw Miller break a tackle?

Spectral Glider said:
Bruce Arians takes suggestions from no one! Well, thankfully, no one except Big Ben. I just wish Ben would call him on some of his crap more often.
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It is insane how much better the offense runs when Ben is calling the plays. Hopefully the Browns or some equally stupid team "steal" Arians from us next season and install him as head coach.
 
Takeda Kenshi said:
To be fair, I think Miller should be the #1 checkdown guy. Unbelievable hands. But yes, Moore AND Miller in on X and goal situations is just sick. Throw in Ward and you have a 1,2,3 combo of epic proportions.
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I agree that Heath is the number one checkdown man, but he is so thoroughly covered in short yardage redzone situations its ridiculous.
 
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