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OMG NEW WEEZER IS SO GOOD

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Yea...hm...I've been into Weezer since I was 14. They were my first concert...I've loved all their albums, naturally, some more than others. Now this...hmm..


I dunno how I feel about this album

and it makes me sad.


:(
 
ive listened to most of the album, i think its pretty crappy. i would attribute it to my changing musical tastes, but my music tastes haven't changed. weezer has gotten progressively worse over the past few albums. i like blue album and pinkerton a lot, but green album was 90% shit, then maldaroit had about 3 good songs... i dont know maybe i will grow to like this album in time, but i think i just grew out of liking weezer for whatever reason.

of course i am in the minority here, and thats ok :D
 

Patrick Klepek

furiously molesting tim burton
Infinitemadness said:
Yea...hm...I've been into Weezer since I was 14. They were my first concert...I've loved all their albums, naturally, some more than others. Now this...hmm..


I dunno how I feel about this album

and it makes me sad.


:(

Wait, are you saying you possibly enjoy Maladroit more than Make Believe?

...someone sound the alarm. Apocalypse. :(
 

Sullichin

Member
I'm so happy that this album is better than Maladroit. It's fuckin' great to see Weezer taking a step back to greatness. Some of these songs are really good.
 
I dunno, I think Weezer just didn't evolve. They show a glimpse of trying with This Is Such a Pity (though it does seem a little vain), but the majority of the songs just sound like normal Weezer filler to me. The thing is, if, say, the sweater song was on this CD (and it was a new song), I'd probably consider it average, whereas I like the sweater song a lot. If a lot of these songs were on one of their older CD's, they'd have fit in and been pretty good, but there's nothing wrong with expecting better or different. I think that's one of the reasons why Pity is so adored by the majority of people, it's different.

Some bands evolve more than others, but you can't release songs that sound like they were throwaways from an earlier CD. I dunno, I had Weezer on my 2005 anticipation list, and I'm just disappointed that I'm enjoying the new Stereophonics CD much more (and I'm not even that into the Stereophonics).
 
A few days have soured my decent reception of the album. This is pretty fucking mediocre, Maladroit-level stuff.

Make Believe, you've worn out your welcome in my stereo system.
 

Musashi Wins!

FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
enjoy bell woods said:
A few days have soured my decent reception of the album. This is pretty fucking mediocre, Maladroit-level stuff.

No, it doesn't get better. It's very average. I had it at work today. It was tiresome.
 
I think fans were excited because the album has a couple "stand-out" (highly subjective, there) tracks, but the thing is bathing in mediocrity for the most part. Rivers has definitely lost whatever he had.
 

Raw64life

Member
After listening to the whole album a good while, it's good enough for me. IMO, every one of Weezer's albums has been worse than the previous one, so all I wanted was for this album to better than Maladroit, and it is, so I'm happy.
 

robot

Member
The albums great imo - I just got into Weezer about 6 months ago so listening to all of these albums at once has been just amazing. One of the fews bands where I liked more songs than I disliked (theres probably only a handful that I wasn't crazy about)

"Perfect Situation" and "This is such a pity" are my favorites of this album so far.
 

Patrick Klepek

furiously molesting tim burton
I can understand putting Make Believe below Blue/Pinkerton, as it's nowhere near as good in many senses, but Maladroit? C'mon, when's the last time you listened to that? Please, anything off Make Believe is better.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Ok here's my deal. I liked Blue and became a big fan with Pinkerton (which I still keep in rotation). I gave Green a few listens but I was distracted with something else and never really got into it. Skipped their last one because of bad reception. So I go into this album from a Pinkerton viewpoint and ....wow, this fucking sucks.

Like I dunno, it's not terrible. But the best songs on this album aren't even fit to lick the boots of the worst songs on Blue/Pinkerton. All the songs feel shallow and get old quickly and nothing has the rockin soul that their older stuff did. Maybe it's better than their last album, but being the 2nd to last place horse in a horse race doesn't really mean much.

In a year that's already started off with a handful of exellent albums, this is drivel and compared to the awesomeness of Pinkerton this is disappointing on so many levels.

Boo...
 

Patrick Klepek

furiously molesting tim burton
Bebpo said:
Ok here's my deal. I liked Blue and became a big fan with Pinkerton (which I still keep in rotation). I gave Green a few listens but I was distracted with something else and never really got into it. Skipped their last one because of bad reception. So I go into this album from a Pinkerton viewpoint and ....wow, this fucking sucks.

Like I dunno, it's not terrible. But the best songs on this album aren't even fit to lick the boots of the worst songs on Blue/Pinkerton. All the songs feel shallow and get old quickly and nothing has the rockin soul that their older stuff did. Maybe it's better than their last album, but being the 2nd to last place horse in a horse race doesn't really mean much.

In a year that's already started off with a handful of exellent albums, this is drivel and compared to the awesomeness of Pinkerton this is disappointing on so many levels.

Boo...

Not surprised you had that reaction :)

I've been a fan of the band since just before Green was released, which means I've been through the ups and downs of disappointment with the band's releases. Make Believe, though not Pinkerton 2.0, is a godsend in comparison to what they've put out in the past few years. With time, I think you'll come to appreciate what it is, even if you can't put it on the same pedestal as their most original work. At least, that's how I look at it.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
Ok, let me just say that I've never really given Weezer a listen. Besides the song "Hash Pipe" and "Island in the Sun" (is that the name?) I never heard another Weezer song, really.

I just heard this new album and I've got to say it's damn good. I'm not quite sure why everyone's complaining, perhaps because Weezers previous work was so much better? I'll have to find out...
 

Vicious

Member
Badabing said:
Ok, let me just say that I've never really given Weezer a listen. Besides the song "Hash Pipe" and "Island in the Sun" (is that the name?) I never heard another Weezer song, really.

I just heard this new album and I've got to say it's damn good. I'm not quite sure why everyone's complaining, perhaps because Weezers previous work was so much better? I'll have to find out...
How is it possible to not have heard "Buddy Holly" at some point in time? Heh, that seems weird to me.
 

Drey1082

Member
Vicious said:
How is it possible to not have heard "Buddy Holly" at some point in time? Heh, that seems weird to me.

Or "Say it ain't so". Go to any sit down college bar/ sports bar, and you'll hear that song at least twice a night.
 

Ford Prefect

GAAAAAAAAY
I've listened to the album about 10 times now, and while the first couple of listens I didn't like it that much, now that it's sunken in I can attest that this album really is good. Perfect Situation, This is Such a Pity, The Damage in Your Heart, and The Other Way are all of very good quality, and I think can hang with the Blue and Pinkerton songs with no problem. Haunt You Everyday is the best Weezer song this side of Pinkerton. Excellent.

It is a shame to note that the Weezer that everyone loves the most is dead. Just Rivers' "enlightenment" ensures that we'll never get an album like Pinkerton again. He just doesn't have it in him anymore. And all this turmoil in the band that has been revealed by recent articles is very disheartening. Despite all that, however, it's nice to see that Weezer can still write and perform good music. (plus, we can all look forward to eventually getting SFTBH ;))
 

Zilch

Banned
Can't stop listening to this album. A burned copy is going to be the only thing spinning in my car for a while.
 
The only thing Matt Sharp added to weezer was his falsetto.

False. I think he added a level of quirkiness that just isn't a part of Weezer these days. As much as I hate comparing Weezer to the Beatles, it was like the relationship between John and Paul. They couldn't stand each other towards the end...but they knew they could make awesome music together. Rivers and Matt are good catalysts for each other.

Make Believe: After giving it a few days of constant playing, it's an OK album. I think it's probably on par with Green. Rivers really needs to work on his lyrics now...his melodies are still there. But there is just too much filler "ooohhhh ohhhh" in this album. More than half of the songs have NO WORDS as a chorus. Just la-la's or oh-oh's. "We Are All On Drugs" is pure crap. "Perfect Situation" is close to old-school Weezer. "This Is Such a Pity" could use some lyrical work.

We tend to forget that when we're younger, we have a lot more angst and passion in our writing. Same applies for Rivers. The fire just isn't there anymore. Long live Blue/Pink.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Yea, "were all on drugs" is a terrible terrible song. I was trying to give album another listen but then when I got to that song I had to hit the eject button and put in something else. I don't know they could have actually put that on the album.
 

Raw64life

Member
Yea. It really sucks that "Beverly Hills" and "We Are All On Drugs" are the first two singles off this album. IMO, they are by a wide margain the two worst songs on the album. They sound like songs that they forgot to put on Maladroit.
 
I think it's a pretty ridiculous review myself, even if I think the album sucks. Goes to show how ridiculous that sort of rating scale is, too. What the fuck is a .4 anyway?
 

Substance

Member
A POINT FOUR?? :lol Pitchforkmedia are just comedians.
Rob Mitchum definitely likes early Weezer; as is the sane thing to do. If you checked his individual list of the 1990s he has Pinkerton as #9, and Blue in the top 30 or something.
 
Substance said:
A POINT FOUR?? :lol Pitchforkmedia are just comedians.
Rob Mitchum definitely likes early Weezer; as is the sane thing to do. If you checked his individual list of the 1990s he has Pinkerton as #9, and Blue in the top 30 or something.
Yeah, he likes/liked them at one point. I don't think he ever bashes early Weezer in his review like AlphaSnake says he did.
 

bridegur

Member
I think the review is valid in its complaints (why on earth did it take three years to make THIS?), but if I enjoy MB if I imagine it isn't from the same man who created TBA and Pinkerton.
 
enjoy bell woods said:
Yeah, he likes/liked them at one point. I don't think he ever bashes early Weezer in his review like AlphaSnake says he did.

I doubt Alpha read the review, just the score and the last paragraph. What he says in the review is that he considers the album so bad that it might even discolor his love of Pinkerton and The Blue Album.


The review is harsh though, and I haven't even heard the album yet, so I don't know how valid it is.
 
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