The episodic nature of wrestling promotes fan interaction between shows. Movies are one and done.
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The episodic nature of wrestling promotes fan interaction between shows. Movies are one and done.
There is always time for a good Michael Bay action movie.
Nymphae
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Yep, still enjoy them, mostly Spider-man.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Well there's your soap opera for men with muscly dudes pretending to hit each other.
Deified Data
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If someone doesn't know much about a subject, they'll immediately retreat to saying whatever they think makes them look smarter - in the case of wrestling it's "you know it's fake, right?". It's why you can't bring up tomatoes without someone reminding you they're actually a fruit.
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Nymphae
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lol, not really. I'll give you that they are a bit Soap Opera-y at times, but if you're trying to tell me your average Spider-man comic features as much man skin as your average wrestling episode, I'd call you crazy. There is far more effort put into drawing women salaciously.
The type of action in display on WWE is not the same as in an action movie.
They are different things.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Comic books, in its most recognized form, are literally nothing else but a soap opera full of muscly people (mostly men) being drawn hitting each other.
WorriedCitizen
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Wrestling is like the Simpsons to me. Something that i enjoyed as a kid but completely boggles my mind that it's still running and has fans.
BronsonLee
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SURPRISE, BITCH
Nymphae
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I mean you aren't wrong lol, but I'd say there is more focus on the male form in wrestling. You are literally watching two almost naked dudes grapple each other (or yell about drama) the whole time, and unless you're watching women wrestle, this formula really doesn't change all that much. Comics on the other hand, are pretty diverse when it comes to aesthetics and visual styles.
Proud of my love the WWE, oh and it's better than Fencing.
When the hell was this? I thought WWE basically banned chairshots.
Attitude Era 4 life
ECW 4 life
WCW 4 lie
90's wrasslin' was the best
BronsonLee
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Not all wrestling focuses on oiled up muscle heads. There is plenty of smaller fully clothed guys doing flippy stuff.
Nymphae
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Sure. Again though, focus is mainly two guys, going at it. Every week. For decades. I like the variety of plotlines and fantastic elements found within comics, as well as the fantastic art and world building. To an outside observer, it really looks like wrestling is the exact same shit it was in the 80's. There is a wealth of unique comic books out there, with all kinds of plots, styles, themes, etc.
FallingEdge
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I get what you are trying to say but there is a lot more variety than you think.
Wrestling is not just WWE.
But sure, can't argue that comics if you include manga have a huge choice of different genres.
God Dayumm
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Everything on TV is fake and with awful scripts for the most part anyways, so wrestling deserves no more hate. I enjoy Honey Boo Boo, so there's also that.
My wife likes the Kardashians. I can't hate because she puts up with my nonsense.
See You Next Wednesday
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If wrestling is fake, then why did Godzilla learn the art of the Lou Thesz Press?
Why did a giant lobster do a spinning neck breaker in the ocean to Godzilla?
Why did Godzilla learn a picture perfect lady's body slam?
And you're telling me that's all fake? Real life techniques used by Godzilla himself. Nothing fake about it.
Godzilla never jobs.
JesseEwiak
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It's come down to what, of all Jeff Jarrett said. "To a critic, no explanation will do. To a fan, no explanation is needed."
Wow Jeff Jarrett said that. I'll have to remember that one.
JesseEwiak
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Well knowing Jarrett, he likely stole it from somebody else and took credit, like a good carny.
The gradient is between criticizing a person once for a single juvenile action vs criticizing everyone all the time for everything that's equivalently juvenile.
To use a close analogy, my sister, a vegetarian, has lectured me a few times over the course of my life about the ethics of eating meat, as she sees them. She does not lecture me every time, nor does she lecture everyone she encounters. And on the whole, it is probably worthwhile for me to be challenged every once in a while, even if it hasn't changed my actions.
Well knowing Jarrett, he likely stole it from somebody else and took credit, like a good carny.
Google only brings up a single page of hits with one of them being Jeff's IMDB page (lol).
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0418941/bio
Well knowing Jarrett, he likely stole it from somebody else and took credit, like a good carny.
absolutely
I don't know man. If there's anything that wrestling is missing, it's not a variety of plot lines
Honestly I got nothing against it being fake aside from the actual 'wrestling' aspect which I find a bore. They just need compelling storylines and characters which hasn't been done in god knows how long. They just dont have the benefit of having two great superstars like The Rock or Stone Cold, let alone one, to carry them. They're stuck with little guys with no personality doing slightly better 'in ring' work that nobody cares about and of course Cena.
Gumbie
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Arrowgigantic
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This was when the IOC announced that wrestling wouldn't be part of the Olympics anymore. It is not a WWE video, it's a comedy video Kurt made about being forced to go into other olympic sports to promote the reinstatement of wrestling.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Damn. Sometimes we're too quick to forget that this is a people business.
That's not a "gradient," that's called intellectual consistency, in my book. If you're going to criticize someone for doing A, but not a different person for doing something exactly like A, how do you claim intellectual consistency?
BigJonsson
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UFC HW division was pretty weak but Lesnar still beat up Randy and Mir and submitted Carwin......if it was fixed he would never have beaten Cain lol.....Lesnar losing cost the UFC a ton of money.....
But hey, if you want to believe things are fixed, more power to you
I stopped watching WWE when it got boring and kid focused again..........and when UFC was surging in popularity........I won't knock (most) wrestling fans though since it can be highly entertaining
rocketskates
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YOU JUST GOTTA BOLIEVE!
FallingEdge
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
How is it juvenile, and in what way is it more contrived than any other fiction on TV or the stage? It's literally the same.
notworksafe
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Eh, Game of Thones is fake. So is Breaking Bad. It's all entertainment, who cares?
The problem with wrestling is that it looks really fake. A choreographed fight scene in a movie still looks real. A semi-improvised wrestling match looks cheap, stupid and dumb. Nobody buys that a 250 pound guy would let another dude drag him around the ring or throw him into the ropes and then run directly into an obvious clothesline.
Johnlenham
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I think its depends on how old you are, cos god damn at 13 the rock VS stone cold was amazing. Myself and my bros would fight for months using the stuff we had learned haha
Macho Madness
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WHAT
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Most movie fight scenes are heavily stylized and look nothing like a fight would look in real life though.
How does something like this even begin to resemble reality?
There are actually certain wrestling styles, like the shoot style that was popular in Japan in the 80s and 90s (which was a definite precursor to modern MMA) that look far more convincing than anything in a movie.
Net_Wrecker
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It's theater, breh. They aren't fighting as much as they are performing routines to tell a story. It's not supposed to look realistic unless you're talking about shoot style wrestling. Within more traditional wrestling, the most realistic it'll get is get Japanese strong style where they throw quite a bit more impact and intensity into the strikes. It's still nowhere near realistic or even trying to be.
Comics have a wide variety of genres, even more if you include manga.
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