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[grandjedi6]

Her doing that does not change who Don is and what he has done .
A character like don should not have to be wasting his time on her and him wanting her to kill a famliy member is perfectly in character and the narrative.

Now i can understand you don't like that oda made her be in parts where she needed saving so much
But she was outclass where every she went sort like luffy during the war when he got save countless times.
But of course luffy was beating fodder during that time and not crying .



It being fiction or not it still has to make sense plot wise .
You and Neoriceisgood are asking for don to be nerf just to make rebecca look good while she still fails .

I think contrasting One Piece's pink haired princesses helps highlight the problems with Rebecca.

Shirahoshi was presented as a weak willed princess who has been locked up all her life, so it wasnt surprising when her characterization followed suit. Yes, she has an annoying personality and needed to be saved a few times but the series acknowledged her flaws and Luffy repeatedly called her out on her bullshit. In the end, she had a legit character arc where she ended up showing bravery against her enemies. And while she was never strong enough to fight anyone, she at least had her moment and made a difference in the story by leading away Noah.

Rebecca was presented as a strong warrior with a troubled past who had fought every day of her life... But ended up with a personality reflecting none of those choices. So while Shirahoshi has the weaker willed personality, Rebecca comes off worse since she was presented differently from the onset. Furthermore, Rebecca has needed saving far more times than Shirahoshi ever did, which magnifies the damsel in distress issue. No one ever acknowledges Rebecca's issues and instead repeatedly view her as someone needing protecting at all times. In fact, it's only Rebecca herself who acknowledges that she has been useless and just gets in the way, yet she still manages to get in the same situations over and over.

A character arc like Rebecca's where she is set up as strong but then repeatedly diminished works, but only if she gets a full character arc. What Rebecca needed was to finally acknowledged her flaws and stand up for herself without being saved. Rebecca needed to have a positive effect on the arc besides being errand boy for a key. But with the arc almost over and Rebecca unlikely to serve a story role past this arc, it's extremely unlikely that she will get the resolution to her story arc that she needs.

Another good comparison would be with Usopp in Enies Lobby. In that saga, Usopp was also repeatedly useless in fights and lamented his problems. But Usopp had a character arc throughout that saga where he stood up for himself, had several moments of awesomeness and had legitimate personality growth, all without winning a shonen fight. Even his delay tactic against Lucci at the end of the arc came off 1000x better than Viola and Rebecca's same attempt this chapter. So it's not an issue of the characters being able to hurt the big bad, but rather the resolution and handling of their character arcs.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Sanji has (according to Oda) the best observation Haki of the crew and he was caught by Parasite.

He was in mid-air though, it kinda felt similar to me to show the strawhats were a lot less capable of fighting during fishman island just cause of the water & often being stuck in bubbles.


I do feel that parasite's entire logic/use breaks down if it can't be prevented by a combination of speed/observation haki under normal circumstances. Why not parasite luffy or law to make em fight eachother if you can just parasite anyone?

I think contrasting One Piece's pink haired princesses helps highlight the problems with Rebecca.

Shirahoshi was presented as a weak willed princess who has been locked up all her life, so it wasnt surprising when her characterization followed suit. Yes, she has an annoying personality and needed to be saved a few times but the series acknowledged her flaws and Luffy repeatedly called her out on her bullshit. In the end, she had a legit character arc where she ended up showing bravery against her enemies. And while she was never strong enough to fight anyone, she at least had her moment and made a difference in the story by leading away Noah.

Rebecca was presented as a strong warrior with a troubled past who had fought every day of her life... But ended up with a personality reflecting none of those choices. So while Shirahoshi has the weaker willed personality, Rebecca comes off worse since she was presented differently from the onset. Furthermore, Rebecca has needed saving far more times than Shirahoshi ever did, which magnifies the damsel in distress issue. No one ever acknowledges Rebecca's issues and instead repeatedly view her as someone needing protecting at all times. In fact, it's only Rebecca herself who acknowledges that she has been useless and just gets in the way, yet she still manages to get in the same situations over and over.

A character arc like Rebecca's where she is set up as strong but then repeatedly diminished works, but only if she gets a full character arc. What Rebecca needed was to finally acknowledged her flaws and stand up for herself without being saved. Rebecca needed to have a positive effect on the arc besides being errand boy for a key. But with the arc almost over and Rebecca unlikely to serve a story role past this arc, it's extremely unlikely that she will get the resolution to her story arc that she needs.

Another good comparison would be with Usopp in Enies Lobby. In that saga, Usopp was also repeatedly useless in fights and lamented his problems. But Usopp had a character arc throughout that saga where he stood up for himself, had several moments of awesomeness and had legitimate personality growth, all without winning a shonen fight. Even his delay tactic against Lucci at the end of the arc came off 1000x better than Viola and Rebecca's same attempt this chapter. So it's not an issue of the characters being able to hurt the big bad, but rather the resolution and handling of their character arcs.

^ This actually puts how I feel quite well. I was considering comparing Rebecca to Shirahoshi to show why she botheres me the way she does, but you formulated it perfectly.

 

[B-Dubs]

Just in the past few years or so from the end of fishman to now. Dressrosa has been stupidly diverse with it's characters all around including the women.

Stop that! You're only supposed to pay attention to the other examples, forget all those women when making your argument like everyone else did.

He was in mid-air though, it kinda felt similar to me to show the strawhats were a lot less capable of fighting during fishman island just cause of the water & often being stuck in bubbles.


I do feel that parasite's entire logic/use breaks down if it can't be prevented by a combination of speed/observation haki under normal circumstances. Why not parasite luffy or law to make em fight eachother if you can just parasite anyone?

Luffy and Law are likely too strong physically. I doubt avoiding it has much to do with haki, Donfla probably can't control anyone over a certain level is all.

 

[Bandini]

For me the issue is that Rebecca might be the first OP character I legitimately hate in every single imaginable way, and I find that a troublesome development.

Might be time to step back and get a little perspective, should you really be getting this worked up about a supporting character in a manga that doesn't fit your ideal of what a "warrior woman" should be?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Doflamingo wanted Law to make him immortal for like, his entire fight. He refused, and Dof sawed off his arm. Luffy rescued him and they fought and Doflamingo treated him like a child until gear 4 was unleashed and then he couldn't do shit.

 

[pelicansurf]

Just in the past few years or so from the end of fishman to now. Dressrosa has been stupidly diverse with it's characters all around including the women.

Stop it. Think of the narrative we're trying to spin here. All girls are the same to Oda.

Spoiler

Even the pro-girl/anti-Oda folk only notice the "hot" females. Hmmm.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

1. I think it was anime only, but we've seen Fujitora avoid it through observation haki or something. But blatantly put: Doflamingo hasn't succesfully used Parasite on any named character but a heavily beaten up Bellamy, has he?

That was anime only .
And he use it vs baby 5 last arc and she should know more about don power than rebecca .

If observation haki is the major reason someone like Luffy or Law hasn't been parasited yet, it's kinda silly for him to parasite someone like Viola or Rebecca that easily. As they both posess skills that should technically aid them in avoiding parasite. (observation DF & observation haki)
A significant number of strawhat members & fighters during this arc have shown fewer signs of observation haki than Rebecca, so Doflamingo controlling her that easily causes issues with me regarding his seeming inability to parasite the more powerful gladiators/fighters during the dressrosa arc.
(especially cause during the war he parasited one of Whitebeard's higher ups, so it can't just be an issue with controlling powerful people)

Parasite break down when you really get into why he won't do it vs certain characters .
I would say he don't do it on law cause he can teleport and it won't work on luffy because of CoC.

Sanji definitely threw Doflamingo off with a very very long distance approach. Despite doflamingo's solid armament & killing skills he's clearly not someone with amazing observation haki.
For me the issue is that Rebecca might be the first OP character I legitimately hate in every single imaginable way, and I find that a troublesome development.

Are you forgetting that even with observation haki if character stronger than you it not going to help .
This was showed when luffy fought the boa sisters .

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Might be time to step back and get a little perspective, should you really be getting this worked up about a supporting character in a manga that doesn't fit your ideal of what a "warrior woman" should be?

How patronizing, thank you.

Stop it. Think of the narrative we're trying to spin here. All girls are the same to Oda.

Spoiler

Even the pro-girl/anti-Oda folk only notice the "hot" females. Hmmm.

I think a bit of an issue is that most female characters that stick around beyond a single arc do follow a sorta samey bodytype template.

Oda's got some kickass designs for ladies, Manshelly & Otohime are some of my favorite designs for girls in OP and both from the New World.

A lot of the ones that stick around do have similar bodytypes from what I remember. (tashigi, hina, nami, robin, perona, who else arc hops?)

Parasite break down when you really get into why he won't do it vs certain characters .
I would say he don't do it on law cause he can teleport and it won't work on luffy because of CoC.

Yeah I honestly don't like parasite much now that we've actually gotten to Doflamingo's arc. It seems that his ability to use it is entirely determined by whatever the plot demands.

 

[Cloggerdude]

I came in here to say how cool I thought the last panel was and now I'm leaving feeling super stressed out. Sheesh.

 

[grandjedi6]

Just in the past few years or so from the end of fishman to now. Dressrosa has been stupidly diverse with it's characters all around including the women.

Stop that! You're only supposed to pay attention to the other examples, forget all those women when making your argument like everyone else did.

If anything, this is even more damning. The only times Oda draws unique female characters is when the character isn't sexually desirable. Whether it's from being child-like, fat or old, Oda's most creative female designs are utilized for the undesired. Meanwhile, 90% of the females are designed with big breasts, small waists and Nami faces and they are exclusivey the ones seen as desirable. I think it's pretty damning that the most unique "normal" girl was Senor Pink's wife, and she was described as being homely in looks.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

As much as I like Gatz, most of the chapter felt like complete fluff.
There's been so much megaphone speeches in this arc and it's wearing very thin.


Even if she was outmatched, at least Viola ACTUALLY stepped up and did a pretty courageous act. She was willing to throw her life away to stall Doflamingo.
Rebecca didn't need to be there at all.

 

[Grexeno]

People yelling into megaphones: the arc

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Even if she was outmatched, at least Viola ACTUALLY stepped up and did a pretty courageous act. She was willing to throw her life away to stall Doflamingo.
Rebecca didn't need to be there at all.

Well she needed to be there for Luffy to rescue her.

 

[Cloggerdude]

Well she needed to be there for Luffy to rescue her.

Man, at some point you're just beating a dead horse. You've made your point multiple times now, and I definitely get where you're coming from, but you don't have to keep bringing it up every time someone posts.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Man, at some point you're just beating a dead horse. You've made your point multiple times now, and I definitely get where you're coming from, but you don't have to keep bringing it up every time someone posts.

It's in my contract, I can't help it.

 

[Cloggerdude]

It's in my contract, I can't help it.

On a side note, does it ever feel weird when someone replies to you using one of the sprites that you made as their avatar?

Cause I feel like I would find that weird.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

On a side note, does it ever feel weird when someone replies to you using one of the sprites that you made as their avatar?

Cause I feel like I would find that weird.

It's only weird when they disagree with me in a super heated discussion, lol. (But honestly, I just like knowing people appreciate my work.)


I still have this deep held fear that one day one of those creepy suicide porn spamming accounts will be a person using one of my avatars, and I'll forever be associated with that event.. =_=

 

[cw_sasuke]

Luffy is rescuing the whole nation at this point - it doesnt matter who is between him and DoFla at this point he would have jumped in to save everyone. Violet daring to confront DF after being a part of his family and knowing that she will likely die was not expected.

There are many other mangas who offer the kind of women personalities you are looking for - OP doesnt seem to be the one and never will be. I want Oda to keep writing HIS story and not to drop characters like Nico Robin in big fights just to prove a point. She has done enough for the crew and proven that her worth isnt limited to battles like it is for Zoro or Luffy.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

After all this time, I don't want Luffy to one-hit k.o. Doffy.

Oda has been building this up and up and up so much, I want to see a bare-knuckled beatdown.

Well she needed to be there for Luffy to rescue her.

She really didn't.

Law could have swapped Luffy and Viola so the former could deliver the final surprise blow.

AND I FORGOT, HER SWORD IS BLUNT. It wouldn't have even killed Viola. lol

 

[MetatronM]

Nobody wants Rebecca to look good, we want her to not exist at all. We want Oda to cross out every appearance she's ever made in time for the volume releases and write a little note in her place, saying: "Oh wow, creating a female fighter whose whole purpose is to discourage females from fighting was a terrible idea. Sorry!" (This is sarcasm, but barely.)

In an industry where Morgiana (Magi), Revy (Black Lagoon), Motoko (Ghost in the Shell), and Mikasa (Attack on Titan) exist, I expect more out of female characters and don't consider the whole "Japan is inherently sexist" excuse to be valid anymore.

Mikasa? The "the entire value of my life and existence is tied to one man" Mikasa from Attack on Titan?

Really?

Really?

 

[everyday math]

It's only weird when they disagree with me in a super heated discussion, lol. (But honestly, I just like knowing people appreciate my work.)


I still have this deep held fear that one day one of those creepy suicide porn spamming accounts will be a person using one of my avatars, and I'll forever be associated with that event.. =_=

You made mine!

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I think contrasting One Piece's pink haired princesses helps highlight the problems with Rebecca.

Shirahoshi was presented as a weak willed princess who has been locked up all her life, so it wasnt surprising when her characterization followed suit. Yes, she has an annoying personality and needed to be saved a few times but the series acknowledged her flaws and Luffy repeatedly called her out on her bullshit. In the end, she had a legit character arc where she ended up showing bravery against her enemies. And while she was never strong enough to fight anyone, she at least had her moment and made a difference in the story by leading away Noah.

Rebecca was presented as a strong warrior with a troubled past who had fought every day of her life... But ended up with a personality reflecting none of those choices. So while Shirahoshi has the weaker willed personality, Rebecca comes off worse since she was presented differently from the onset. Furthermore, Rebecca has needed saving far more times than Shirahoshi ever did, which magnifies the damsel in distress issue. No one ever acknowledges Rebecca's issues and instead repeatedly view her as someone needing protecting at all times. In fact, it's only Rebecca herself who acknowledges that she has been useless and just gets in the way, yet she still manages to get in the same situations over and over.

A character arc like Rebecca's where she is set up as strong but then repeatedly diminished works, but only if she gets a full character arc. What Rebecca needed was to finally acknowledged her flaws and stand up for herself without being saved. Rebecca needed to have a positive effect on the arc besides being errand boy for a key. But with the arc almost over and Rebecca unlikely to serve a story role past this arc, it's extremely unlikely that she will get the resolution to her story arc that she needs.

Another good comparison would be with Usopp in Enies Lobby. In that saga, Usopp was also repeatedly useless in fights and lamented his problems. But Usopp had a character arc throughout that saga where he stood up for himself, had several moments of awesomeness and had legitimate personality growth, all without winning a shonen fight. Even his delay tactic against Lucci at the end of the arc came off 1000x better than Viola and Rebecca's same attempt this chapter. So it's not an issue of the characters being able to hurt the big bad, but rather the resolution and handling of their character arcs.

The resolution to her story arc is that she wanted to beat don and did not want to fight anymore.
Both of them will happen at the end of this arc .
I can understand you think she needs to do something important \ look better but i don't .
She being useless just like king riku or the king of FI IMO.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

double post first time this happen to me lol.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

Everyone seems to have been misled about Rebecca from the beginning.

This was never HER story. Kyros aka the Thunder Soldier was always the main focal character of the tragic Dressrosa story.

Rebecca was NEVER a warrior. Her fighting style is so that she DOESN'T HURT her enemies.
She NEVER wanted to fight. She just wanted to live a regular life with "Soldier-san".

 

[grandjedi6]

I came in here to say how cool I thought the last panel was and now I'm leaving feeling super stressed out. Sheesh.

If you liked the chapter, you liked the chapter. Don't let other people's opinions stress you out. We're honestly not worth it lol

Luffy and Law are likely too strong physically. I doubt avoiding it has much to do with haki, Donfla probably can't control anyone over a certain level is all.

That's certainly how it's presented but then you remember that Jozu, one of Whitebeard's strongest division commanders, was parasited.

But Doffy's string powers don't make much sense generally. I mean, the birdcage is made of haki infused strings that repel any attack, cut through any matter, stop any radio communication AND can project magical television screens on them. What are these strings even made of, magical google fiber? Lol

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Like, the weird thing to me (and I'm not referring to anyone specifically in here) is when I read how Oda is the worst at female characters.

Like really, the worst?

Of all the mangas whose female cast is a glorified harem for the main hero, so the audience can argue who the "best girl" is, one piece is the worst?

Of all the female manga characters who literally serve no purpose other than to quietly pine for the main hero, one piece is the worst?

And yeah, I agree that Rebecca is undercooked as a character, that she could've and should've done more. But sometimes I read some comments that make it sound like One Piece is this anti female work, when it's not.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

Oda is nowhere near the worst.

Most of his female characters actually do something and still have relevance to the story arc.

But Doffy's string powers don't make much sense generally. I mean, the birdcage is made of haki infused strings that repel any attack, cut through any matter, stop any radio communication AND can project magical television screens on them. What are these strings even made of, magical google fiber? Lol

Except seastone and haki and Barto's barriers, of course.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Like, the weird thing to me (and I'm not referring to anyone specifically in here) is when I read how Oda is the worst at female characters.

Like really, the worst?

I think, at least speaking for myself, it's also in relation to the overal quality of a person's work.


When I see fanservice sexist bullshit in Fairy Tail I'm like ... well yeah, it's fairy tail. This manga lives off of shitty tropes and making me mad. I actually had to quit FT cause the end result of nearly every chapter was me wanting to punch something.

I can actually remember more decent fights involving female characters in Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tail. And I find that slightly depressing due to the fact that I respect OP's quality like 10 times more than any of those.


Simultaneously I think most low-grade shonen are significantly worse than OP in that regard, so the idea that "OP is the worst compared to every manga" is ridiculous hyperbole.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

But Doffy's string powers don't make much sense generally. I mean, the birdcage is made of haki infused strings that repel any attack, cut through any matter, stop any radio communication AND can project magical television screens on them. What are these strings even made of, magical google fiber? Lol

Don powers make as much sense as some other .
Sand that drys you out if it touch you , wax being as hard as steel , fuji calling meteors that all the same size etc etc .

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Don powers make as much sense as some other .
Sand that drys you out if it touch you , wax being as hard as steel , fuji calling meteors that all the same size etc etc .

It's not so much about "making sense" as having internal rules though.

e.g. Enel's mantra requiring electric current to read people's minds & being useless against Luffy's random ricochet attacks.

There's no real reason given why some people can't/won't get parasited within the story. To me that feels like an in-universe problem rather than an issue with trying to apply real world science to the OP world.

 

[pelicansurf]

Like, the weird thing to me (and I'm not referring to anyone specifically in here) is when I read how Oda is the worst at female characters.

Like really, the worst?

Of all the mangas whose female cast is a glorified harem for the main hero, so the audience can argue who the "best girl" is, one piece is the worst?

Of all the female manga characters who literally serve no purpose other than to quietly pine for the main hero, one piece is the worst?

And yeah, I agree that Rebecca is undercooked as a character, that she could've and should've done more. But sometimes I read some comments that make it sound like One Piece is this anti female work, when it's not.

Yeah, I feel the same way. There's a lot of people barking up the wrong tree considering that outside the Big Bad vs. Luffy/Zoro, the male/female field is pretty even power wise. I'm assuming since it's by far the most popular manga, it gets most of the heat.

7 Deadly Sins has super sexist/rapey tendencies at some points, but because it is stocked with the sexy AND powerful ladies, maybe it catches a break, since this is what all these guys are thirsting for.

 

[Mortemis]

Man I'm starting to think that the time-skip wasn't the halfway mark, it was the quarter mark. With the pacing Oda's got going right now Togashi could stick to his current long ass hiatus schedule and still finish HxH before One Piece.

This arc is really good, but the amount of extra shit just drags it down to the ground. I really hope Oda can focus in again and start getting his pacing back into place. Especially now that he's taking so many breaks in the year (god dammit, another one ;_, we could really use shorter arcs.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

It's not so much about "making sense" as having internal rules though.

e.g. Enel's mantra requiring electric current to read people's minds & being useless against Luffy's random ricochet attacks.

There's no real reason given why some people can't/won't get parasited within the story. To me that feels like an in-universe problem rather than an issue with trying to apply real world science to the OP world.

Law could just easily teleport out of Parasite, so it wouldn't be effective against him.

CoC is probably the reason why it wouldn't work on Luffy.

 

[BatDan]

Gats' speech is a million times better if you read it as a wrestling promo.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Okay done blowing off steam for now.


Anyone any predictions for Luffy's big "final attack" against Doflamingo?

 

[Jigolo]

Okay done blowing off steam for now.


Anyone any predictions for Luffy's big "final attack" against Doflamingo?

Jet pistol right to the gut sending him flying and his glasses flying off his face

 

[Imperial Bishop]

I think the next arc is going to be rather short to give the reader a small breather before the next long arc.
Similar to the Davy Back Fight after Skypiea.

 

[Mortemis]

Gats' speech is a million times better if you read it as a wrestling promo.

I read it as that too, fucking got me hyped. I was high off that until I saw "no chapter next week" :/

Okay done blowing off steam for now.


Anyone any predictions for Luffy's big "final attack" against Doflamingo?

"gomu gomu no glasses destroying cannon!"

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Okay done blowing off steam for now.


Anyone any predictions for Luffy's big "final attack" against Doflamingo?

He might go straight for another Kong (insert punch name) right off the bat, but Doflamingo has already experienced gear 4 and might not be inclined to use the same strategies or even let Luffy get away with turning.

Doflamingo seems to have a major murder-on for Luffy right now so I think he might have something planned.

 

[Dugna]

Don powers make as much sense as some other .
Sand that drys you out if it touch you , wax being as hard as steel , fuji calling meteors that all the same size etc etc .

Sand naturally absorbs water, even things that should be resistant to it like stone get worn down by excessive grainy sand destroying its outside and slowly working itself inside while also absorbing the moisture. So Croc's actions during alabasta definitely made sense since he's sand and can do what sand would logically do.

Wax types like http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Montan_wax can be very hard, there are also man made waxes made from different materials which can if worked right can lead to something being as strong as steel but not the strongest types of steel.

The meteor thing is probably only because drawing different shaped ones all the time just takes up to much time.

 

[Bandini]

Gats' speech is a million times better if you read it as a wrestling promo.

Well let me tell you something Gatznation, this Lucy kid has got more hustle, loyalty, and respect than I've seen in a long time. He might get knocked down one, two, three, hell even four times! But he will always get back up. This jabroni Doflamingo is strong, no doubt. Strong enough to defeat everyone who has challenged him so far! But Lucy isn't just anyone. When the dust settles, there's going to be two things left: a champ and a chump. And Lucy's about to prove that while he's in Dressrosa, the CHAMP... IS... HERE!

::Gatz's theme starts playing, he gets pierced through the heart by Doffy and falls over dead::

 

[Dugna]

Well let me tell you something Gatznation, this Lucy kid has got more hustle, loyalty, and respect than I've seen in a long time. He might get knocked down one, two, three, hell even four times! But he will always get back up. This jabroni Doflamingo is strong, no doubt. Strong enough to defeat everyone who has challenged him so far! But Lucy is isn't just anyone. When the dust settles, there's going to be two things left: a champ and a chump. And Lucy's about to prove that while he's in Dressrosa, the CHAMP... IS... HERE!

and now because of your avatar I read that in Rayleigh's voice lol....

 

[Imperial Bishop]

Well let me tell you something Gatznation, this Lucy kid has got more hustle, loyalty, and respect than I've seen in a long time. He might get knocked down one, two, three, hell even four times! But he will always get back up. This jabroni Doflamingo is strong, no doubt. Strong enough to defeat everyone who has challenged him so far! But Lucy is isn't just anyone. When the dust settles, there's going to be two things left: a champ and a chump. And Lucy's about to prove that while he's in Dressrosa, the CHAMP... IS... HERE!

And the chapter instantly gets better.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

The ending should be if Doflamingo trapped Luffy in parasite so that he can't turn gear 4 again. He then shows off Luffy's helpless body to crush everyone's spirit and while he's distracted with that Rebecca stabs him in the back with her sword, now sharp because Luffy broke it in half.

Doflamingo swipes her away, and a now free Luffy Kongmehameas him to death. A new ruler is then elected democratically by every male and female character in the arc

 

[gundamkyoukai]

It's not so much about "making sense" as having internal rules though.

e.g. Enel's mantra requiring electric current to read people's minds & being useless against Luffy's random ricochet attacks.

There's no real reason given why some people can't/won't get parasited within the story. To me that feels like an in-universe problem rather than an issue with trying to apply real world science to the OP world.

What rules should magical DF strings have ?
I agree with you on parasite but i don't expect oda to answer that .

 

[Neoriceisgood]

What rules should magical DF strings have ?
I agree with you on parasite but i don't expect oda to answer that .

As I said, something simple similar to Enel's mind reading where we know in-story why it won't always work.


I'd actually buy it without issue if it was related to something like CoC Haki, but that's more a process of elimination thing rather than anything made obvious by the story itself.

 

[pelicansurf]

The ending should be if Doflamingo trapped Luffy in parasite so that he can't turn gear 4 again. He then shows off Luffy's helpless body to crush everyone's spirit and while he's distracted with that Rebecca stabs him in the back with her sword, now sharp because Luffy broke it in half.

Doflamingo swipes her away, and a now free Luffy Kongmehameas him to death. A new ruler is then elected democratically by every male and female character in the arc

Lol. I hope this happens just for the reactions.

My guess is just stare down into them charging into each other into dofla flashback into Kong Bazooka. Dofla's glasses fall off and end up being the Glasses-Glasses man, the new admiral, who is under Kaido's payroll. Full circle.

 

[Taborcarn]

Hey guys, One Piece is entertaining.

 

[Lunar15]

Eh, we can argue Oda's views on women and how he uses them till we're blue in the face, but I honestly think that if you clear up the pacing issues and reduce redundancy, these issues become naturally less apparent and less of a problem.

For example, look at Avengers 2: You have a lot of people complaining about the way Black Widow was portrayed in the movie. I personally don't think Whedon or his writers are all that sexist, but I do think that movie had horrible pacing and too many plot lines. And what happens when you don't give someone the proper time to develop as a character before you use them in compromising scenes? Yeah, you're going to get complaints of sexism and relying on bad tropes.

Let's be honest, it's not just females that are being reduced down to tropes: It's the entire crew. It just so happens that when you reduce the female characters down to a handful of tropes that it becomes particularly unsavory. His arcs are getting crowded, and no individual character gets a huge chance to shine outside of a few key beats. Some beats are great, like Godsopp, others are not so great.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

As I said, something simple similar to Enel's mind reading where we know in-story why it won't always work.


I'd actually buy it without issue if it was related to something like CoC Haki, but that's more a process of elimination thing rather than anything made obvious by the story itself.

If we go story wise weaker characters get control and stronger characters just get keep in place that is if what he using vs them.
Maybe there still time for him to use it on luffy and he use CoC

Eh, we can argue Oda's views on women and how he uses them till we're blue in the face, but I honestly think that if you clear up the pacing issues and reduce redundancy, these issues become naturally less apparent and less of a problem.

For example, look at Avengers 2: You have a lot of people complaining about the way Black Widow was portrayed in the movie. I personally don't think Whedon or his writers are all that sexist, but I do think that movie had horrible pacing and too many plot lines. And what happens when you don't give someone the proper time to develop as a character before you use them in compromising scenes? Yeah, you're going to get complaints of sexism and relying on bad tropes.

Let's be honest, it's not just females that are being reduced down to tropes: It's the entire crew. It just so happens that when you reduce the female characters down to a handful of tropes that it becomes particularly unsavory. His arcs are getting crowded, and no individual character gets a huge chance to shine outside of a few key beats. Some beats are great, like Godsopp, others are not so great.

People are going to say things sexist sometimes no matter what you do .
I think it's a matter of numbers they are way more male characters so they get more time to do stuff .
People want the few females that there to shine and it does not happen every arc .