That's a nice thought, but as you can see, it doesn't work like that. People don't know how to ignore things that they don't like. And that's an issue.
And the discussion has been banned from this thread. No, you don't have a "right", as you so dramatically call it, as NeoGAF is not a democracy, for better or worse, as stated in the ToS. What mods say are final, really.
And what the mods said was that the discussion was temporarily suspended. It's been weeks and I justified my post's relevance early on as part of my reread and mostly as an observation. So, as I see it, I was acting within my rights as set out by the mods. If you believe I stepped out of line, feel free to contact them, but I doubt that they'll see this as a breach of what was laid down before.
Stop.
The reason why you're getting so much backlash is because, despite these obvious flaws, people are mostly in this thread to discuss the series at a base-level rather than some kind of intellectual critique.
You come off as incredibly condescending with your posts, which given your repeated lengthy posts on the subject, you can't seem to understand. People don't take well to someone preaching at them from a soapbox. No one is resisting sexism in One Piece, people are resisting you for repeatedly making it an issue. We can bash One Piece all day long, but people are mostly here to discuss what they enjoy about the direction the series is heading and the theories behind the world.
Sorry dude, but I felt I had to say this. We aren't idiots.
When I said all that, it's wasn't me thinking you guys are idiots, it's being normal people. You say they aren't resisting the idea, but Pegosaurus (sorry to call you out like this) immediate move was to attempt to create the Skypeia as an isolated incident where it was somehow irrelevant. This happens every time, like clockwork, no matter what angle the implication is brought up. I feel it's reasonable to assume that the fact that no one likes to have their beloved characters labeled with something like that is atleast a partial factor. It's not about being idiots, it's about the fact that human beings aren't hyper rational objective creatures devoid of innate tendencies beyond their control.
But okay, lets say I'm being an condescending asshole. Fine. What do you think is a reasonable thing for me to do about it? Because I'll tell you one thing I'm not going to do is radically alter my posting style for the convenience of others. You're basically saying that criticizing one piece is okay, just not with the lengthy line of criticism I decide to use, wherein I justify my criticism with details. That, I am not going to do. I don't think it's reasonable to ask anyone to stop posting merely as a result of perceived offenses at their writing style.
And they are
perceived offenses. There is nothing about my first post that was anything but recording my observations and opinion at it. Only pegosaurus actually wrestled with the discussion, and I'd say I was courteous to him, even though I disagreed with what he was saying. For that, Romance Dawn tried to shoo me off the board again and Jarate questioned my judgement instead of refuting my argument. So it's okay to speculate on my blindspots and bias', but I'm condescending when I do so with others? I didn't take offense at what Jarate said because he's right, I might have a bias, because everyone does. My only point was how would I know if I did? As I said, bias' are hard to distinguish from objectively made judgements without some kind of test to prove it. And how do you actually know, for sure, that it's just me and there isn't a bias at work with the rest of the board as well? It's not like sexism has a welcome history in most other discussions. How do you know that it isn't, even partially, you guys as well? What I think it is has been already numberously discussed and people have admitted that they indeed have a difficulty seperating the idea of criticizing OP from criticizing Oda. This isn't something I just pulled out of my ass either. I can find posts where people admit to such. It's condescension to repeat that as a factor in why people might not want to talk about it?
Here is my stance on the matter: The idea that people find me condescending, rude, an asshole, arrogant, etc, this is not new to me. My repeatedly lengthy posts on these matters isn't from a lack of understanding, it is a fundamental disagreement with the accusers. I know when I'm being condescending, and this isn't it. Maybe I'm being unintentionally so? Okay, but if I'm going to consider that, then the person across from me better have a good rationale for it. My writing style of extensively supporting my points is not what I consider an indicator of that. Nor is my resilience in a discussion point I believe in. Personally, I no longer see how I can broach this topic without backlash when merely mentioning the word sexism is enough to put people in a tizzy without them actually addressing the things I'm saying.
I'm not going to not say what I want to say, how I want to say it to appeal to these kinds of people. So we're stuck in this position where I'm not searching for comraderie among the community and simply seek to speak my piece and be done with it. If there is an ongoing resentment of that, so be it. I can ignore that. But that's not condescension, it's inconsideration for people who I view as being inconsiderate of me in turn.
People sign up for neogaf for discussion, not for the unilateral depositing of their opinions. You've said that your posts are more just to register your ideas publicly, not specifically for discussion. You are not describing a forum, you are describing a blog. When you suggest that people "don't have to reply" you are undermining the fundamental concept of a discussion forum. If you just want to write, go with the blog. It was the right idea when you had it.
No, what I said was that I don't mind if my ideas aren't discussed, not that I desire them not to be. They're for myself in the sense that I would be okay being ignored if other forum goers choose to do so. As I said, look forward to people discussing what I write, just not to the point where if they didn't, I'd stop. And what do you define discussion as if not the
multilateral depositing of opinions? All I said was that Neogaf was a place for me to put down my thoughts. And it is, it just isn't
only my place. But I never said that it was. Just
a place.
...I do not shut down discussion whatsoever, I've had some of the most protracted discussions/arguments with Veelk out of anyone. My arguments have never been "stop talking." I'll get plenty irate/stupid which I regret, but don't group me with people who are saying things like, oh I dunno, "I don't want that bullshit feminist shit in these funny discussion." Their posts are the worst ones of all.
Yeah, as many conversations as we had and not all of them pleasant, I'll give you that you never just tried to shut down the conversation on subject matter alone. Credit where it's due, I respect you for that much atleast.
