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[GaimeGuy]

I never expected to see a Garfield reference in One Piece. Hopefully someone makes a Square Root edit with Nekomamushi.

Family of assassins. They must be dangerous if they have enough power to change Wanted Posters and arrange a marriage with the daughter of a pirate emperor.

Oh yeah, Pekoms can turn into a turtle, mentioned his power blocking half the shots.

I still think the patriarch is one of the gorosei.


So, aside from Law, Zoro, and Luffy (and maybe Bonney), all of the worst generation members are going to be underlings of emperors they ended up being too chicken shit tomake enemies wth, right? And Luffy is going to convince them all to rally behind him by rekindling their spirits after having the balls to stand up to opponents they submitted to?

I just have the feeling that like Capone submitted to big mom, apoo, hawkins, and kidd wound up becoming underlings of kaido.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Robin should know about that family, she was part of the underground world for so many years.

 

[Kreed]

One Piece 814:

We all know that isn't going to happen. Luffy will likely get them caught at one point and he even said that he's sick of running away from enemies, which is why he punch Fujitora. They'll definitely try and sneak in though.

Based on the bolded, you didn't understand what I meant by that part of my post. It's not that I expect Luffy to sneak in and grab Sanji with absolutely no confrontations at all, but I don't expect Luffy to fight and defeat Big Mom at this point of the story when Kaidou is still being dealt with (in other words, this is not the start of the "Big Mom" arc that some fans might be ready to start speculating on). He and the Straw Hats will definitely get into trouble and will likely add to the eventual Big Mom build up, but he will likely succeed in getting Sanji back and getting back to fighting Kaidou without the Big Mom vs Luffy fight taking place, similar to your example, Luffy attacked Fujitora after he was confronted while trying to escape, but they didn't fight/have a actual battle.

 

[Imperial Bishop]

You don't know how long I've been waiting for something like this to happen. Lil' Chopper has been smitten.

 

[B-Dubs]

Oh Chopper, you're finally in the spring time of youth

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Chopper to take over sanji's gag while hes gone confirmed.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I feel it's unlikely that Sanji's family trained him or anything. He's been with Zeff since he was a kid and takes after his fighting style.

Oda isn't really big on nurture, though. In the one piece world, what you are is in your nature. Luffy was always going to be a pirate, Nami was always drawn to cartography and navigation. Sabo was never going to be satisfied living a life of convenience as a noble, he was always a free spirit.

Having Sanji come from a long line of assassins, the cold, calculating, sneaky tendencies of his, and his skill with a knife, could be part of his nature.

 

[Nibel]

Way too many good panels in this chapter.

Also, love the interaction between crewmembers and minks. Guess next chapter we'll get the full Vinsmoke reveal with faces

 

[Not75Drops]

One Piece 814:
Based on the bolded, you didn't understand what I meant by that part of my post. It's not that I expect Luffy to sneak in and grab Sanji with absolutely no confrontations at all, but I don't expect Luffy to fight and defeat Big Mom at this point of the story when Kaidou is still being dealt with (in other words, this is not the start of the "Big Mom" arc that some fans might be ready to start speculating on). He and the Straw Hats will definitely get into trouble and will likely add to the eventual Big Mom build up, but he will likely succeed in getting Sanji back and getting back to fighting Kaidou without the Big Mom vs Luffy fight taking place, similar to your example, Luffy attacked Fujitora after he was confronted while trying to escape, but they didn't fight/have a actual battle.

Oh ok, that makes sense. I also don't see Big Mom being done with in a single arc unless it's super long, which I think isn't going to happen so soon after Dressrosa.

 

[smurfx]

You don't know how long I've been waiting for something like this to happen. Lil' Chopper has been smitten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQqKXqGA1i4

what went through choppers head. since sanji's family are assassins then maybe they are the ones responsible for rogers incurable disease? would at least make them a big threat. since luffy is dealing with emperors then a family of assassins don't really seem that formidable.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Cliffhangers

Cliffhangers everywhere

 

[marmoka]

Like everyone, I thought Sanji would belong to a very important family. A rich family, probably World Nobles from Mariejoa. But no, they are assassins.

OMG! This was totally unexpected! Now I've got more questions than last week.

I'm loving this arc. Until now, Sanji was another member of the crew. Now I love him a lot, with all the mindblow we are having.

 

[Squishy3]

And now we wait for the revelation that Lucci and Sanji are secretly related

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Like everyone, I thought Sanji would belong to a very important family. A rich family, probably World Nobles from Mariejoa. But no, they are assassins.

OMG! This was totally unexpected! Now I've got more questions than last week.

I'm loving this arc. Until now, Sanji was another member of the crew. Now I love him a lot, with all the mindblow we are having.

Welcome aboard the ss.sanji

 

[marmoka]

Welcome aboard the ss.sanji

Thanks man!! After so many chapters, I feel I'm starting to know him right now.

 

[Magwik]

Welcome aboard the ss.sanji

The Super Sayain Sanji?

 

[Blackhead]

You don't know how long I've been waiting for something like this to happen. Lil' Chopper has been smitten.

That's Dr Chopper . I wonder if he'll change into his alternate forms more often to show reindeer mink (what's her name?!) that he isn't 'Lil' Chopper

 

[Lunar15]

I still haven't gotten tired of the Minks having no sense of personal space.

The part where pedro keeps burying his face into luffy's is comedy gold.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

I wonder if the fire theme is going to carry on with the rest of Sanji's family. Could explain the "smoke" name.

 

[Dimmle]

I wonder if the fire theme is going to carry on with the rest of Sanji's family. Could explain the "smoke" name.

The smoke part needs explanation as Sanji's last name?

 

[SalvaPot]

Don't want to spoil, but given Brooke's reaction, is anyone else thinking Sanji's family is connected to what happened to Brooke's crew?

Oh man, if there is a connection to it we can finally see a for real motivated Brook after so long. I want his to actually get angry for once.

By the way, I wanted to add that what Pekoms said is that the Vismokes are essentially Assassins, but that could pretty much mean anything. In a way, some pirates are also assassins. I wonder if they are going to expand on this next chapter, because the cliffhanger makes me think there is more to it that just assassins.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Great chapter can't wait to see more.
Zoro is like this sometimes but we all know he going to cave in lol.

Zoro will get lost

 

[jbug617]

People are speculating that Sanji's family was shown during Punk Hazard arc when they did shots of people watching from the Underground.

 

[Rebel Leader]

People are speculating that Sanji's family was shown during Punk Hazard arc when they did shots of people watching from the Underground.

Smoking + wine = relation

 

[Magwik]

Smoking + wine = relation

The area on the TV covered was probably of Sanji
It's such an easy thing to dismiss, but this is Oda we are talking about

 

[jbug617]

Episode 600 is where they showed the Underworld.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Takeaways from this chapter:

Zoro really doesn't like Sanji, haha. Nami also cares about him despite seeing him as a dimwit.

 

[pelicansurf]

Takeaways from this chapter:

Zoro really doesn't like Sanji, haha. Nami also cares about him despite seeing him as a dimwit.

I think he likes him, since he tosses the "he left without saying goodbye" line (paraphrased), but he's the realist of the group. He knows they're in some shit and ain't nobody got time to fuck around with two Yonkou.

 

[Man God]

Zoro just wants to pick a fight with Kaidou so he can unleash his Sharingan finally.

 

[GhostBed]

It's amazing having Nami back, I really missed her input. Her and Zoro feuding this chapter felt just like old times.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

big cat is Garfield lol

 

[SolVanderlyn]

big cat is Garfield lol

My first thoughts as well, haha

 

[TheFlow]

Zoro just wants to pick a fight with Kaidou so he can unleash his Sharingan finally.

Zoro would get rekted in one page

 

[B-Dubs]

Zoro would get rekted in one page

Dunno, Zorro hasn't exactly been pushed to the limit yet. He's wrecked everyone he's fought so far.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Zoro would get rekted in one page

Theres no debate there.

 

[Anteater]

zoro has actually never lost a fight unless you count Kuma, it's just how his character is set up from that promise he made:

so we can assume he's probably not going to go up against someone he can't/won't win against, or he won't get wrecked directly because it would be very awkward

 

[marmoka]

Here's Blackbeard's song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBMVZdE97l0

 

[Majukun]

I still think the patriarch is one of the gorosei.


So, aside from Law, Zoro, and Luffy (and maybe Bonney), all of the worst generation members are going to be underlings of emperors they ended up being too chicken shit tomake enemies wth, right? And Luffy is going to convince them all to rally behind him by rekindling their spirits after having the balls to stand up to opponents they submitted to?

I just have the feeling that like Capone submitted to big mom, apoo, hawkins, and kidd wound up becoming underlings of kaido.

kid has the scars and the lack of an arm to testify for his resolution to not serve under another

 

[TheFlow]

nvm then, I think they are setting up the zora vs mihawk thing then.

 

[mrmickfran]

Theres no debate there.

Of course you'd say this as a Sanji fan.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Of course you'd say this as a Sanji fan.

Putting aside that I'd still say the same thing.

 

[RomanceDawn]

zoro has actually never lost a fight unless you count Kuma, it's just how his character is set up from that promise he made:



so we can assume he's probably not going to go up against someone he can't/won't win against, or he won't get wrecked directly because it would be very awkward

Not against sword fighters but he's lost to others besides Kuma. Aokiji, Eneru and Lucci come to mind and while not a loss in the sense that we know it you could probably throw in Peronah.

Though I know what you mean, like a full on vs mode chapter where the structure of the story is ready for the enemy to be fully defeated.

 

[NSESN]

Of course you'd say this as a Sanji fan.

I'm a Usopp fan and i agree with him/her

 

[mrmickfran]

Putting aside that I'd still say the same thing.

I'm a Usopp fan and i agree with him/her

I know, I'm just having fun ;p

 

[Chariot]

zoro has actually never lost a fight unless you count Kuma, it's just how his character is set up from that promise he made:



so we can assume he's probably not going to go up against someone he can't/won't win against, or he won't get wrecked directly because it would be very awkward

Well, I think we can safely assume that he meant "sword fight". E.g. it wouldn't a shame for him to lose against Enel.

 

[flintstryker]

Best strawhat about to get better after being revealed to be a Zoldyck

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Sanji and Usopp getting rekt by Enel is one of my favorite moments in the series. Up until that point the big bad has barely interacted with any non-Luffy Straw Hats, if at all. Enel changes that up by visiting one of the side teams personally and taking them out with absolutely zero difficulty.

 

[Tathanen]

Putting aside that I'd still say the same thing.

Who's that in your avatar?

 

[ryan13ts]

Well, I think we can safely assume that he meant "sword fight". E.g. it wouldn't a shame for him to lose against Enel.

Zoro "sorf of" lost a fight against Kaku when they first reveal themselves at the Galley-La House, right before Aqua Laguna. Granted, it wasn't an all out brawl, and he got taken down with shigan instead of a sword, but it's still a loss.

 

[Chariot]

Zoro "sorf of" lost a fight against Kaku when they first reveal themselves at the Galley-La House, right before Aqua Laguna. Granted, it wasn't an all out brawl, and he got taken down with shigan instead of a sword, but it's still a loss.

Yeah, but it wasn't a sword fight. His honour is being the greatest swordman, meaning that nobody can beat him in a swordfight. Although that was stretched here and then, it was in some sense a swordfight. A dude doing the shigan, the fingerpistol, isn't a swordfight in my book.