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One Piece Manga |OT| ZEHAHAHAHA! The Name of this Age is Blackbeard!
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Momo isn't some normal kid.
It's totally possible that he has some sort of ability to see "past lives" or see the future or something.
It's totally possible that he has some sort of ability to see "past lives" or see the future or something.
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I wonder..alof people assume the elephant is who luffy heard maybe its the whale
maybe zunisha is having a baby and that is who they are hearing. zunisha knows it's going to die soon and planned ahead.
Yeah, I think the whale is connected to it, because Oda flashed a panel of the whale tree right when Luffy heard the noise.
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I mean if the whale's connected to the elephant it probably just ended up beached on it centuries ago and nobody could get it off so it eventually died and got petrified.
Also don't remember seeing it brought up but with everything we know now it's most likely Oden that was visiting Crocus.
Also don't remember seeing it brought up but with everything we know now it's most likely Oden that was visiting Crocus.
The flying object here:
When did this happen? I can't remember. Please somebody tell me the manga and anime chapters I need to rewatch.
This is showing everyone departing for the New World after the war at Marineford ended.
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It's been said before by me as well so that's why I dropped the image so people realise that Momo isn't just saying random things to troll us.
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Or it's hakiMomo isn't some normal kid.
It's totally possible that he has some sort of ability to see "past lives" or see the future or something.
Or " the voice of all things"
I need to reread and rewatch this part.
The difference between the crews themselves probably isnt that high - but Blackbeard being the deciding factor while wielding 2 of the most powerful devil fruit powers is too much to handle for Marco and. Co.. Whitebeard alone in his near death state was capable of fucking a lot of shit up at Marineford and going toe to toe with the strongest OP characters...now give these powers to a healthy and dirty fighting Pirate like BB - well good luck.
BB also knows most of the WB Pirates and their powers while Marco and Co. probably didnt knew much about BB Crews and all the DF powers they had stolen/used at this point.
Ace alone would have destroyed the BB crew if it werent for BB himself so just like with the Strawhats the Top 3 are likely far stronger than the rest of the crew and compensating for weaker members.
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I'd argue that Jesus Burgess and Shiliew are at least on the same level as the Monster Trio right now. Burgess kept up with Sabo until he got Ace's DF during Dressrosa.
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Shiliew - for sure since he is Zoros counterpart. Dont know about Burgess yet - they way he got treated a couple of chapters ago makes me believe that he dropped quite a bit in the BB Pirates Hierarchy. Then again he got bodied by Sabo the same way Sanji got stomped by Doffy...lol.
Shiliew, maybe. There is this weird vibe about him, he must be ruthless. Burgess is a joke, Sabo completely destroyed him, there was no ''keeping up'' at all. You could make a point that Sabo is really powerfull, and he must be, but Burgess is way to demoralized right now. I don't see him being a threat to anyone.
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What? Sabo certainly did not destroy him before DF. Also this "demoralized" guy attacked Sabo after the Colosseum two times, sounds more like "pissed off" than "demoralized".
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Burgess isn't a DF user and Ace's DF was really OP. Without that power, I doubt Sabo would have won that easily.
Syntsui is right - Burgess isnt a Top player and Sabo was dominating him without too much effort. Burgess was used as a Jobber to show off Sabo - no way Oda wo do that if he was considered one of BB/Yonkous top guys.
Shiliew, Blackbeard and one of tose Impel Down freaks with an imba DF are likely the Top 3.
Shiliew, Blackbeard and one of tose Impel Down freaks with an imba DF are likely the Top 3.
What?? He immediately destroyed Burgess armguard and then started toying with him, there was barely any fight at all shown in the mangá, I don't know where you got this idea.
Then he destroyed the entire arena, grabbed the fruit and escaped with Rebecca. Burgess was just standind there barely understanding what was happening. If that is not demoralizing, I don't know what is your interpretation of the word. When he decided to attack Luffy, Sabo completely wrecked him with a power he had zero practice, he was literally in the verge of death.
I don't see how Oda would make Burgess threatening again after this. I don't see any of the big guys from the strawhats having any trouble at all against him.
Errr guys. burgess is not even close to Sabo level pre-fruit
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We don't know what the voice of all things can so guessing that Momo could experience something like past life memories is saying more. I'm guessing something like this because in Buddhism having a child leader is often linked to the child having memories of the lives of previous great leaders.
Well lets not go that far. Hes probably Sanji level.
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I don't want to look that up, cause that battle is scattered across so many volumes, but other than Sabo destryoing the armguard, there was neither toying nor destryoing. That happend after he got Ace's power.
And destroying the colosseum isn't really beating him, as Burgess was, simply said, too slow in realising what was happening atm.
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There was no fight really in the colosseum. Sabo broke his arm guard(stronger haki),broke the stadium than after he got the fruit fought fuji and than whopped all over burgess. I dont think the fruit had anything to do with him beating burgess tho.
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I'm searching the chapters now and I only find them fighting at chapter 737 and Sabo says that taking the fruit won't be easy as he thought. He says that after clashing with Burgess.
Yes, that's what I saw. After a lot of flashbacks and other scenes the fight resumes with a chaos and Sabo decides to destroy the ring.
I might be wrong but I didn't find any evidence of Sabo destroying Burgess pre-DF. He only obliterated him after getting the mero mero fruit.
Pretty much. Sabo was going to beat burgess ass regardless
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Getting a fruit like 20 minutes ahead of time meant nothing lol. If anything burgess losing was even worst with the fruit, sabo barley had control
He destroyed the armguard in one chapter, was talking and evading some blows in another, then destroyed the ring and escaped in another. That's all interaction they had pre-DF.
What could be interpreted from all this is: he had a stronger haki, he was toying with Burgess, he easily grabbed the fruit and rescued Rebecca when he decided to. There is nothing more to talk about considering what was actually shown.
After DF Sabo faced Fujitora for a few minutes, again with barely any real action being shown. Then he went after Burgess and almost murdered him.
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Did BB send him to Dressrosa? I'm actually not clear on that. I thought Burgess was just there to fight to fun. I don't think they knew about Ace's Fruit before he got there since it wasn't announced yet.
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That's not enough to prove he was wrecking Burgess like people said here. That's the point I was arguing. You're assuming that Burgess didn't have any trump card, that Sabo didn't have the element of surprise (people thought he was "Lucy", not Dragon's right hand), that Bartholomeo wasn't helping him, etc. Sabo would defeat Burgess without the DF. There is no dispute over this. But saying he was leagues better it is an overestimation imo. Sabo only got ridiculous advantage after eating the fruit.
I'm assuming, since you generally see crews together in this series, unless they're sent on a mission/errand.
Blackbeard's core crew seem pretty similiar to the Strawhats to me, in the sense that they are more friends than subordinates. I guess when Burgess wants to go fighting somewhere and BB isn't needing him, he is free to go as he please.
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Burgess was sent out by Blackbeard to collect powerful devil fruits if I remember correctly.
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He seems to have achieved that judging by the bag
His ultra defense was his trump card and Sabo took care of it without too much issues - this was Oda basically telling us Sabo is on a different level.
Also im pretty sure that the higher tier Blackbeard Commanders all already gotten their Devilfruits in the last 2 years while Burgess is still looking for one. The way they treated him when he contacted them about the Revo base made him look bad. Then again we dont know that much about the BB Pirates, how they interact with each other and what kind of rules they have to follow.
By what bag, I can't remember that, please help me out.
I want to see Lafitte do something, because he managed to sneak up and into the shichibukai meeting with apparently little trouble, way back when.
http://opforum.net/attachments/burgess-df-chaser-jpg.1138/
http://opforum.net/attachments/burgess-df-chaser-jpg.1138/
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I think they mean the unobtrusive paper bag, he had put on his head for the purpose of "disguise".
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Oh, that bag, forgot about that one.
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Well, I doubt that was his trump card. It's too little, even for his tier and he was depicted as a reckless fighter. I bet Burgess didn't show his full power that time and when he was going to use it, Sabo already had the DF.
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