Hell Moria didn't even do anything illegal. He just pissed them off vis a vis Luffy and even then that's another warlord's fault.
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Hell Moria didn't even do anything illegal. He just pissed them off vis a vis Luffy and even then that's another warlord's fault.
Even if nobody cared for the pirates dying or going missing, the Marines could have become be very suspicion, if they connect the dots between Moriah's ability and a massive report of missing shadows. He sounded like, he wanted to have the advantage before entering the New World again.
Aaronrules380
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I doubt many of the people with missing shadows ever left the florian triangle, given the sunlight=death thing
That's entirely within the authority of the warlords though; they basically have free reign over any other pirating group they encounter.
That's why Moriah was so chilled, the plan was perfect. Until some people unexpected guest showed up ...
The point is, that all the bigger hazards in the Old World were either weak, hidden or in line with the World Goverment, since they have a bigger influence in this region of the world. The New World belongs more to the Yonkos and other supposing powers, which is why Robin was hard to oppose by them and in more danger of the World Goverment.
slightconfuse
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You guys think the vin smokes are celestial Dragons?
Ganzlinger
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celestials = aliens?
plot intensifies lol
But seriously, it's possible but I think they aren't. Unless there is an explanation for their assassination business. It doesn't seem to fit a noble family.
No.
We just had that twist with Doflamingo.
They already stated that the Vinsmokes were a family of assassins. While the Celestial Dragons have murdered people (countless people holy shit), they do it out of malice and joy. The Vinsmokes sound like they're professionals, doing it for money. Or more like the Zoldycks from HxH, or assassin lineage of Assassin's Creed.
Just my guess though
slightconfuse
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It does have HxH vibes.
Guess they have a lot of influence in the WG to only make sanji wanted alive.
Ganzlinger
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Speaking of which, I saw this on tumblr:
"Seriously, MANGASTREAM, MANGAPANDA, they made a fucking HUUUUUUUUGE mistake…. ‘人殺しの一族’ isn’t ‘a family of ASSASSINS’. It’s ‘a family of MURDERERS’. They are totally different. Assassin is assassin, but murderer, it “can” be assassin, soldier, mafia, blablabla every person who kills or killed person. I bet there’s gonna be bunch of people saying like “Sanji was so spy-tic cause his family is a assassin family!“"
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One pointed that the translation is actually a "clan of murderers". I don't know anything about Japanese, so is it true? If it is, does that make a difference?
"Seriously, MANGASTREAM, MANGAPANDA, they made a fucking HUUUUUUUUGE mistake…. ‘人殺しの一族’ isn’t ‘a family of ASSASSINS’. It’s ‘a family of MURDERERS’. They are totally different. Assassin is assassin, but murderer, it “can” be assassin, soldier, mafia, blablabla every person who kills or killed person. I bet there’s gonna be bunch of people saying like “Sanji was so spy-tic cause his family is a assassin family!“"
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One pointed that the translation is actually a "clan of murderers". I don't know anything about Japanese, so is it true? If it is, does that make a difference?
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Vinsmoke brothers.
I hope they don't look this samey when they're revealed.
Ganzlinger
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So, assassins stands as the correct translation?
Imperial Bishop
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B-b-but...Killer's Feed doesn't sound as cool or clever as Assassin's Feed.
I was talking yesterday with my colleague about the latest anime episode. We both agreed that Toei could have ended the episode after Luffy went Gear Fourth, and thank god they didn't. I'm recommending him to read the manga, but he feels lazy for that, prefers the anime.
He asked me if the anime episode was so slow in the manga as well, I said not, that is much faster, and not that boring. He asked me if I had read it till the last chapter, I said yes. Apparently he was somehow spoiled, and asked me if this arc is really focused on Sanji, because he read somewhere he is a prince. I told him "well, kind of". I wouldn't tell him he's from a family of munderers, haha.
He asked me if the anime episode was so slow in the manga as well, I said not, that is much faster, and not that boring. He asked me if I had read it till the last chapter, I said yes. Apparently he was somehow spoiled, and asked me if this arc is really focused on Sanji, because he read somewhere he is a prince. I told him "well, kind of". I wouldn't tell him he's from a family of munderers, haha.
Normally we would have some inkling of spoilers but we have some stuff from Viz translation:
-Oden was a youngster on Roger crew and around the same age as Shanks.
-Luffy Nami and crew are taking the Sunny.
-Marco and the WB Pirates but up a fight but they were obliterated (strong word then destroyed).
-Oden was recruited by Roger and left WB.
-Oden was a youngster on Roger crew and around the same age as Shanks.
-Luffy Nami and crew are taking the Sunny.
-Marco and the WB Pirates but up a fight but they were obliterated (strong word then destroyed).
-Oden was recruited by Roger and left WB.
We already knew most of that though...
Ganzlinger
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This was probably discussed to death but since we had this talk about the Vinsmoke family being celestial dragons and Sanji's alien theory, I think the probability that aliens do exist in One Piece's world (not the moon, since it is pretty much confirmed by Enel) are higher than I expected. I was just watching the anime (Enies Lobby arc) and Professor Clover's theory about the lost century says about an enemy that defeated the poneglyph's creators or something like that and erased the story, that enemy probably are the celestial dragons. The term "celestial" dragon is really intriguing now and since they wear those helmets like astronauts, things look indeed fishy.
I don't know how to feel about that, sounds like a huge detour from the pirate theme.
I don't know how to feel about that, sounds like a huge detour from the pirate theme.
Blackleg-sanji1
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There are no aliens!
God i hope not
God i hope not
slightconfuse
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Yea the big weapon Doffy talked about is probably and alien device.
Blackleg-sanji1
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O come on now oda stop this lol
Looks like Momo and the Kozuki symbol.
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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Oh I don't think we want thatn. A break here, a break there and suddenly. WHAM
One Hiatus
Blackleg-sanji1
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A hiatus would kill us all
I read Berserk, I'll live!
Blackleg-sanji1
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I read hunterxhunter but onepiece? Nonono i couldn't do it
Imperial Bishop
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Blackleg-sanji1
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Amateur. I read HxH, One Punch Man and DGray Man. I embrace hiatus!!
Hmm plz, you don't know true pain unless your a Bastard fan.
At least Berserk still gets chapters.
Sibersk Esto
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lol that brings back memories
SolVanderlyn
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Yo. What.
Looks like Momo and the Kozuki symbol.
Ganzlinger
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I'm certain of that. lol
RomanceDawn
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Greg from the One Piece podcast dropped some really interesting info about Momo and his "meeting" with Roger. With the voice all things or the seeing of all things, Greg presumes that Momo literally talked to some iteration of Roger. I've got to listen to the Podcast to be entirely sure. It's fascinating because a couple things...
The breath of all things, is undoubtedly related to the voice of all things. Remember Zoro unlocking such an ability when he was on the verge of death against Mr 1. We know for sure Luffy has the full on ability even if he is unaware.
Think back to Jaya and the first meeting with Black Beard. All that cryptic talk about "not he" but "they" from Luffy and Zoro, promptly confusing Nami, she wondered if anyone else was with him. It was one of the weirdest scenes that Oda has ever drawn attention to. Later we do find out from Marco that Teach's body is different, which he assumes could explain why Teach was able to consume 2 fruits without dying.
I don't know how, I don't know why, but I think there is a literal entity of some kind attached to Black Beard. What ever the hell it was at that meeting, Luffy and Zoro noticed this, but to them it was just another person hanging around Teach. Something like this would explain the casual nature in which Momo brought up Roger, he thought he really met the living breathing guy.
This probably sounds stupid but I think I just blew my own mind!
The breath of all things, is undoubtedly related to the voice of all things. Remember Zoro unlocking such an ability when he was on the verge of death against Mr 1. We know for sure Luffy has the full on ability even if he is unaware.
Think back to Jaya and the first meeting with Black Beard. All that cryptic talk about "not he" but "they" from Luffy and Zoro, promptly confusing Nami, she wondered if anyone else was with him. It was one of the weirdest scenes that Oda has ever drawn attention to. Later we do find out from Marco that Teach's body is different, which he assumes could explain why Teach was able to consume 2 fruits without dying.
I don't know how, I don't know why, but I think there is a literal entity of some kind attached to Black Beard. What ever the hell it was at that meeting, Luffy and Zoro noticed this, but to them it was just another person hanging around Teach. Something like this would explain the casual nature in which Momo brought up Roger, he thought he really met the living breathing guy.
This probably sounds stupid but I think I just blew my own mind!
everyday math
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I just remembered no chapter this week. Now I'm sad. 
I think this was just referring to Blackbeard's crew members.
RomanceDawn
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I said those things about the Samurai covers and the kozuki symbol like weeks ago and nobody cared
Also said Zoro had the symbol on his kimono in Crossroads.
I saw, I cared. I thought I acknowledged you for it. If not I am now!
Acknowledged!
I know thats what most people say. Considering how the Straw Hats were all together the entire time with no moment where Teach was actually with his crew I find it really suspect. Especially for such a simple answer to be given such odd focus on that entire page.
I know! You are one of the good peeps Romance :> I also really love your theories and things you point out.
The thing with Blackbeard is sureöy interesting, I mean they saw the other BB pirates but couldn't know they were a crew.. or maybe it is like you said and something lingers on BB and maybe now even on his mates? The darkness?
Every time Greg is on the podcast, it's a must listen. He finds so much stuff in the chapters and most of the time he's actually spot on.
Oda wouldn't throw out a line like "I have met that Roger guy too" without care. He knows what he has to do to throw the readers of the scent. Then, when he drops the bomb, people will be like:
Imperial Bishop
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???
Think he is talking about FFX Sin.
Luffy and all the D were dead/dreams the entire time.
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