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[cw_sasuke]

Thank god that strength isnt the all decisions factor otherwise we would reach stupid power level territory ala DBZ quite fast. Its nothing more than a number to measure how much of a threats to the WG this person is or can be. Strength plays a role, but so do knowledge or character traits like the ability to lead/convince people. Dragon is likely the most feared person because he combines power, knowledge and is leading movement that will confront the WG very soon.

I always wished this was the case, as it would make the most sense, but sadly it's not. It's the opposite of what you're describing. How much you annoyed the world government plays a small part, sure, but it's mostly related to the strength of the pirate.

They are the ones paying for the bounty so this is the most important part actually.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Obviously bounties aren't power levels, my point was more to illustrate that Enel was really, really strong, since I can't see anyone getting a bounty that high without a shit ton of strength to back it up. That said, keep in mind that Enel's god complex probably also would've contributed to that bounty had it been real, since he's definitely the type to be very destructive and actively hate the WG.

I've always assumed that being a captain was always a huge factor in high bounties, so someone like Zoro would have a much higher bounty were he to lead his own crew rather than be under Luffy

 

[Aaronrules380]

They are the ones paying for the bounty so this is the most important part actually.

Yep, It's just that for the majority of pirates their strength is one of the defining factors of how big an issue they are to the world government. Pirates are by nature opposed to the WG, but most won't go out of their way to attack them. And we've seen guys like Kreig early on whose bounty was probably more due to the amount of men under him than his own strength

 

[Syntsui]

I always wished this was the case, as it would make the most sense, but sadly it's not. It's the opposite of what you're describing. How much you annoyed the world government plays a small part, sure, but it's mostly related to the strength of the pirate.

No, not at all. Come on man, there are a lot of examples given here.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Does anyone honestly think that Ace was stronger than Doflamingo?
Or that Kidd and Luffy were almost on part with him pre timeskip?

 

[pelicansurf]

Does anyone honestly think that Ace was stronger than Doflamingo?
Or that Kidd and Luffy were almost on part with him pre timeskip?

It depends on how Ace's Haki game was. He already knew how to use Conqueror's Haki, so he probably knew how to use the other two. If he was good, fire > string, so he could've won.

 

[Kave_Man]

Does anyone honestly think that Ace was stronger than Doflamingo?
Or that Kidd and Luffy were almost on part with him pre timeskip?

I just always imagined Ace as slightly stronger than Luffy being the older brother.

Just like now I view Sabo as slightly stronger than Luffy as well.

In both cases at some point as per shounen rules the younger brother will surpass the older brother at some point though.

 

[Chariot]

Does anyone honestly think that Ace was stronger than Doflamingo?
Or that Kidd and Luffy were almost on part with him pre timeskip?

I never thought about it and have to say: I don't really know. We have no way to determine who of the two is, or was actually stronger.

I just always imagined Ace as slightly stronger than Luffy being the older brother.

Just like now I view Sabo as slightly stronger than Luffy as well.

In both cases at some point as per shounen rules the younger brother will surpass the older brother at some point though.

I thought that Ace is much stronger than Luffy, since he had more experince earlier than Luffy, especially since travelling with Whitebeard on the Grandline. Luffy maybe would've catched up (well he did anyways, since Ace doesn't look so hot anymore, but you know what I want to say).

 

[GaimeGuy]

And the point I was making is lost

 

[Chariot]

And the point I was making is lost

Please elaborate. I am puzzled.

 

[Kave_Man]

And the point I was making is lost

Hmm so the point you were making was a mysterious point.

*nods*

 

[TheRealTalker]

can someone jog my memory

whatever happened to Ceaser? Is he with Doffy again somewhere?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

can someone jog my memory

whatever happened to Ceaser? Is he with Doffy again somewhere?

Caesar is with Sanji and the others being chased by big mom

 

[TheRealTalker]

Caesar is with Sanji and the others being chased by big mom

Ah got it

lol I assumed he was with Law before the shit got down but now I remember everything

 

[Aaronrules380]

Thank god that strength isnt the all decisions factor otherwise we would reach stupid power level territory ala DBZ quite fast. Its nothing more than a number to measure how much of a threats to the WG this person is or can be. Strength plays a role, but so do knowledge or character traits like the ability to lead/convince people. Dragon is likely the most feared person because he combines power, knowledge and is leading movement that will confront the WG very soon.



They are the ones paying for the bounty so this is the most important part actually.

Does anyone honestly think that Ace was stronger than Doflamingo?
Or that Kidd and Luffy were almost on part with him pre timeskip?

Doflamingo's bounty has be frozen for years since he became a shichibukai. So it doesn't really mean much anymore

 

[ethomaz]

Enel has the strongest observation haki known or maybe even possible. He was able to observe things in a very wide area to level of "omnipresence" which is why he was called God Enel.

There is part in the manga that says the Enel Mantra works better because his akuma no mi.

 

[Dugna]

There is part in the manga that says the Enel Mantra works better because his akuma no mi.

So maybe since electricity is in most living plant life and the air itself he could just spread himself a certain amount and not really work on the size of his Observation haki just be literally everywhere?

 

[ethomaz]

So maybe since electricity is in most living plant life and the air itself he could just spread himself a certain amount and not really work on the size of his Observation haki just be literally everywhere?

I don't remember the part in the manga that explain that but on wiki you can read...

With the Goro Goro no Mi, Enel can pick up electromagnetic waves, allowing him to overhear conversations and everything around him: this has extended the range of his Mantra to cover roughly all of Skypiea. By comparison, most of the other priests could only keep track of people nearby.

Edit - I found the chapter... 278.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Enel was able to build a space ship and knows of technologies like radar. Even without haki or devil fruit this makes him a threat to the world government if he doesn't collaborate. He might come back into play when vegapunk comes into the story. I actually think that skypiea is one of the more interesting arcs in one piece when it comes to laying down what the series is about and the destiny of the crew.

 

[Magwik]

Caesar is with Sanji and the others being chased by big mom

You mean dead right?

 

[smurfx]

i hope when enel comes back he's mastered his devil fruit and has some of the strongest conquerer's haki around.

 

[Jigolo]

Enel would get wrecked by so many of the new characters in the manga. He is definitely not even close to the strongest anymore

 

[Tuck]

Hopefully Enel never comes back.

 

[jbug617]

I want to see what post-time skip Coby and Garp is like.

 

[SalvaPot]

Enel was able to build a space ship and knows of technologies like radar. Even without haki or devil fruit this makes him a threat to the world government if he doesn't collaborate. He might come back into play when vegapunk comes into the story. I actually think that skypiea is one of the more interesting arcs in one piece when it comes to laying down what the series is about and the destiny of the crew.

It also set up Merry. And had the only serious solo fight of Robin.

What a great arc that was.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I want to see what post-time skip Coby and Garp is like.

Coby showed up in a TV special with advanced Kenbunshoku haki, and Soru with some super strength. He is also a captain.

 

[360pages]

You'd think Coby would think twice about the Marines when his boss almost melted his face off. You'd think he would think about what he's doing considering the person he's working under is 100 times worse than most pirates.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

You'd think Coby would think twice about the Marines when his boss almost melted his face off. You'd think he would think about what he's doing considering the person he's working under is 100 times worse than most pirates.

#NotAllMarines

 

[Sequence Six]

You'd think Coby would think twice about the Marines when his boss almost melted his face off. You'd think he would think about what he's doing considering the person he's working under is 100 times worse than most pirates.

He's been dealing with corrupt Marines from day one. He knows the score. It's just that he wants to make things better. And for the sake of that world I hope he succeeds.

 

[360pages]

I hope so as well, but when 2/3 of your leading commanders are borderline complete monsters and the one that wasn't quit...well.

 

[Sequence Six]

I hope so two, but when 2/3 of your leading commanders are borderline complete monsters and the one that wasn't quit...well.

Fujitora's got potential. And there's still a mystery admiral to get to know.

 

[Nightbird]

Fujitora's got potential. And there's still a mystery admiral to get to know.

Wasnt the new Admiral put in his position by akainu? Because in that case we can be sure he's not a good guy.

 

[Sequence Six]

Wasnt the new Admiral put in his position by akainu? Because in that case we can be sure he's not a good guy.

So was Fujitora. You never know. If for no other reason than the sake of the story I'd be a little surprised if Ryokugyu turns out to be as extreme as Akainu.

 

[LonelyGreyWolf]

There could be many reasons for choosing an admiral. His power and experience are probably very important, but then also the guidelines and maybe even the world government sometimes have a say in it, even though they are a separate entity.

 

[ethomaz]

No spoilers yet

 

[Tathanen]

No spoilers yet

GOOD!!!!

 

[BatDan]

It's too early for spoilers. We're likely going to get them Wednesday night.

 

[Nightbird]

It's too early for spoilers. We're likely going to get them Wednesday night.

Jap, we are now back to our usual modus operandi

 

[Welfare]

wait nevermind.

 

[Jigolo]

Spoilers: Luffy wins

 

[GaimeGuy]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

 

[Imperial Bishop]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

 

[Welfare]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

Oda's crazy but he's not THAT crazy.

 

[Jigolo]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

Oda is a god damn genius if this is the case. Wow

 

[Squishy3]

That's just ridiculous.

 

[Nightbird]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

Yooo, that would be too much dude.

 

[Chariot]

Could we stop posting unfounded theories here? That one is really reaching.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

WTF? There's no way that's the case. It's too much even for One Piece.

 

[B-Dubs]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit

That shit is way too crazy, no fucking way dude.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/35lxp1/my_theory_about_sogeking/

Holy Shit