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One Piece Treasure Cruise |OT3| Zephyr any day now...
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Majukun
Member
currently at work, so I'm gonna farm teach later, but I'm happy to know that anti despair makes it so easy.. with double jozu and the ability to attack him twice it's gonna be easy.. also no checking his HPs
I basically have them. as socket container.. you end up with tons of them and if you ever going to need a specific socket and nothing more you just pop one of the giants inIs that a good enough reason to have someone take up box space?
...Maybe.
ZekeThePlumber
Member
That's sounds reasonable until you realize that the Manticore is a secret stage and requires 16 skill level ups. But don't let that stop you.
edit: It looks like the stage drops a skillbook for him to, so that makes it considerably less unreasonable. The dream is still alive. I'll probably just stick to Helmeppo though.
For all enemies.
Thanks ...but ouch...thats kinda bad :-/
Its been a while is the Helmeppo droprate good on that stage ? I might try to socket him then.
Can't beat BB 40 (my qck team is pretty underleveled), so now I have to choose whether to run BB 30 until he drops or ignore him altogether and run water 7.
By the way, regarding unit leveling... I was going to go with: lvl 50 for useful but niche units, 70 for frequently used units and max for legends/truly important units but... is it best to focus on a single unit or level most units evenly?
I'm guessing since exp/level increases the higher the level, getting lower level units up to speed first is more efficient, but having Sw Shanks I'm tempted to just throw most/all turtles at him until he gets to 70+.
By the way, regarding unit leveling... I was going to go with: lvl 50 for useful but niche units, 70 for frequently used units and max for legends/truly important units but... is it best to focus on a single unit or level most units evenly?
I'm guessing since exp/level increases the higher the level, getting lower level units up to speed first is more efficient, but having Sw Shanks I'm tempted to just throw most/all turtles at him until he gets to 70+.
Neoriceisgood
Member
I got myself an amazing anti-BB team:
Enel/Enel
Jimbe/Capone
Usopp/Log Luffy
Usopp + Log guarantee my anti-silence socket & level 1 slot boost.
enel's heal + that DEMOLISH BB.
Don't even need to use enel's special.
Enel/Enel
Jimbe/Capone
Usopp/Log Luffy
Usopp + Log guarantee my anti-silence socket & level 1 slot boost.
enel's heal + that DEMOLISH BB.
Don't even need to use enel's special.
Beat BB with a Doffy/Mihawk/Doffy/Lucci/Kuro/Brooke team. It helps having anti-despair on from the doffys (only friend was maxxed special, I stalled long enough). But I don't have enough friends with powers to make this viable.
Switched to a Enel/Jozu team with all QCK memebers, went just fine.
Switched to a Enel/Jozu team with all QCK memebers, went just fine.
Yeah, I'm actually doing the same with a Skilled Gunner (since the Kuromarimo stage in Drum drops 1-2 of him per run). I've got him max skilled (the amazing Iron Shield), a few levels from max exp, and 2 sockets from max. He's actually got two sockets and his stats aren't terrible, so he might come in handy for a shooter team someday. You know, if we ever get a shooter lead.
Yeah, having the skillbooks will make it easier, assuming they drop frequently. If they have the same drop rate as Aisa's books, though, it ain't happening. I had no problems max skilling Inuppe outside of a skill up event, so I'm hopeful.
Socketing Helmeppo's probably the best activity for the Morgan fortnight, yeah. Slasher Helmeppo is still useful, and getting cooldown reduction on Choreboy Helmeppo would help with Princess Turtles.
Man as a new player I really want a decent repeated fortnight to show up. Ever since I started playing there hasn't been anything good. Need those Alvidas, Smokers, Peronas, Luccis, Cobys, Hinas etc.
Edit: and now that I got log vivi, add monster chopper and mihawk raids, I know that old players are probably tired of those but for me it would be a blessing.
Edit: and now that I got log vivi, add monster chopper and mihawk raids, I know that old players are probably tired of those but for me it would be a blessing.
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
I thought about this too, it's the only thing that stood out for Sadie's fortnight. I'm guessing Manticore's book drop rate maybe like Ryuma/Aisa given he's the secret character. I can see him being useful to a degree, perhaps with helping in speed runs for the princess turtle isle. But in that case we have so many other units already to consider:
Croc
Helmeppo
Log Nami
Sanji
Vista
Enel
Dog Penguin
Tilestone
Etc.
Ultimately looking ahead, what would the +/- for more runs be? I'm not doubting his usefulness to whatever special case he could be used. But my counter is the runs required to skill max Manticore versus the options we have already, if he's explicitly used for the princess turtle isle only, are plentiful.
Thanks for posting this. Hmm, looks like that second week with Croc won't be a dud and with Duck Squad, Afro, Hina coming back too... something may have to give if the primary fortnight is decent.
Also great to hear you got your Sengoku account back!
Oh come on, Afro Luffy so soon? Couldn't they release the Halloween Fortnights or at least the Kimono one?
Neoriceisgood
Member
Duck squad and Afro Luffy?
Excellent, just in time for me to max skill my second golden pound & socketing my second Log luffy.
Excellent, just in time for me to max skill my second golden pound & socketing my second Log luffy.
*openly weeps*
Majukun
Member
well if you have it with a CD of at max 18 you can farm duval extremely easy, and if you have it with a CD of at least 25,you can also easily farm doflamingo, albeit slowly
This truly is the poor man's BB raid.
I find that Enel/Jozu/ a bunch of quick units is easy peasy with this raid, AS LONG AS you have despair Level 1. For that, I'm running Enel friend, Jozu leader, Kaku/Brooke, and Mihawk and G3.
G3 is my only unit with 5 in despair (GP Usopp has 4, sadly), and Mihawk has 2. As long as my Enel friend has 3, I'm golden, and it's been working really well for me so far. It's just SO EASY to stall with him. I'd imagine double Enel works well too, but I enjoy have the extra HP as a buffer.
Just got a stamina from the snails too! More BB here I come!
I find that Enel/Jozu/ a bunch of quick units is easy peasy with this raid, AS LONG AS you have despair Level 1. For that, I'm running Enel friend, Jozu leader, Kaku/Brooke, and Mihawk and G3.
G3 is my only unit with 5 in despair (GP Usopp has 4, sadly), and Mihawk has 2. As long as my Enel friend has 3, I'm golden, and it's been working really well for me so far. It's just SO EASY to stall with him. I'd imagine double Enel works well too, but I enjoy have the extra HP as a buffer.
Just got a stamina from the snails too! More BB here I come!
Farmed 10 BB copies today and didnt get a single useful Socket from them...thats..erm...quite annoying. So im dont for this time. Hope you guys have more luck with Sockets.
Great to hear !!
Yeah my Choreboy is already max skilled but Slasher Helmepoo has been essential to my Slasher team since Day 1 - will try to buff him with Sockets.
Hope you are good at hitting perfects 100% of the time
PS. You do have back to back turns of burst - two Doffy captains, so you get orb amplification for two turns. Trebol locks orbs for a second turn of burst and Caesar's attack boost is for two turns. Compared to SW Ace's team, you do more damage, but you have to hit all perfects 12 times (lol) and your HP is much lower.
I did matching orbs and unbind. I am an offensive player, so matching orbs will always be on my units instead of lower cooldown.
My first Doffy is max level/max skill/ max heal/ max cd. I think LL is better for Doffy farming.
Maybe I'll have more time today for the farming. Tried my first runs right now and wow is Blackbeard a joke even without a max level/ max skilled Enel. The first run I stalled for the special of Enel but in my last run I just run through the stages and all I need is my Iva and Doffy special to kill him when he is right over/under 20%.
My team is:
Enel / Enel
Doffy / Iva
LL / Jimbe
LL is for the silence socket.
I'd rather wait for the cobymeppo fortnight to return as that has decent pirate experience and a decent drop rate on helmeppo himself.
I mean the fastest princess team right now is a -3cd lead, preferably duval for his combo, dog penguin and general zombie for low cd fixed damage to all with 0 special animation, and the final 2 are a mix between enel/helmeppo/manticore/sw luffy.
Enel is preferred as he has a 17 cd max, and sw luffy and manticore tie at 18cd while helmeppo is 20, the big thing is if manticore has an actual special animation and if so how fast or slow it is compared to sw luffy, since helmeppo is 2 turns longer.
If you don't care about the 2 turns or bank on getting and maxing sw luffy then ignore manticore, also if you dont care about another rare 100% def reducing special.
I want to see how rare or common his books are first to decide if i'll attempt maxing manticore.
Yeah, better books and the chance to socket Coby too. Morgan does have the upped XP levels though, that's where it started. I'd still run Sadie over Morgan, unless you really want to skill level some Choppers.
So, I was an idiot with my stalling. With double Enel captains, and Kaku and doffy in the middle, and Ivankov and capone on the bottom, it's trivial to stallfor specials against mobs, and to burst blackbeard down
They even come with a boat this time! Albeit kind of a crummy one.
I really want to give Kuro's boat a shot when that comes out, though. Seems like it'd be good for QCK teams.
lucypirates
Unconfirmed Member
Nah I get you. I saw you originally post that team in the sub-reddit and I appreciate the thoroughness in team composition.
For me, personally and I preface this as my opinion.
The bottomline becomes total additional XP acquired through speed runs of the princess turtle versus the amount of runs required to actually acquire enough units to fully skill max Manticore.
If we're talking about saving 10-15s per run, even with no animation for his special? That's what maybe a ballpark of 2-3 more runs perhaps? For a total of maybe... 500,000 XP? Is that extra XP really worth it long term in regards to the investment of time and effort for Manticore? I'm an anomalous player but I know at some point we've all acquired at the very least 100 skillbooks that we didn't need and that's what 500,000 XP also is, 100 skillbook fodder.
Manticore's special is definitely unique, 100% debuff to defense for all enemies? That's pretty good. My gamble to not bothering with the unit is more so along the lines of where I actually need to use that. I find it highly doubtful Bamco would provide an encounter in the game where that exact mechanic is needed/necessary to defeat something that wouldn't have an alternate method to win.
Manticore is also 15 splvs. That's more than/equal to a raid boss, where a raid at 40 stamina is 100% drop rate and doing Sadi's fortnight even at the expert 30 stamina level is definitely not even half that for a guaranteed Manticore drop (unit/skillbook).
I'll wait to level it, I wanna make sure I max the sunny right away whenever we get it
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Wasn't it Hina's FN when the XP got bumped up?Yeah, better books and the chance to socket Coby too. Morgan does have the upped XP levels though, that's where it started. I'd still run Sadie over Morgan, unless you really want to skill level some Choppers.
Ah, forgot about the Sunny. Yeah, that one takes priority. I figure it'll replace the Merry, I'd rather have some free damage than 300hp.
GameWith agrees with you, so yeah, seems like it was Hina. I could've sworn it was Morgan, though. I remember getting a lot of levels when that one first came around, as it was the first time I could comfortably clear the highest difficulty on a fortnight.
Majukun
Member
seriously..what would we do without the french translators regularly fucking something up and gving namco an excuse for some free gems?
I am honestly surprised they give us gems for that every single time. It seems to happen every week as of late.
Blackbeard makes it apparent, that I need stronger QCK units.
I've been using:
Jozu/Jozu
Capone
Kaku
Hina
Ivankov
The problem I have, is Kaku is usually locked so I can't pair him with Hina. Ideally I'd like to put Ivankov in the lower slot, along with Kaku/Hina. Have Ivankov locked, knock Blackbeard's health down to around 20%, then use Capone, Kaku, and Hina to finish him off. It doesn't happen, though, so I BARELY kill him before he kills me, unless I get lucky with orbs. It doesn't help that a few of the members are around Level 40-50.
Oh well, maybe I'll have Killer when he returns. That's the hope.
Congrats to everyone finishing off their Blackbeard! I'll have to wait until later to reliably farm him.
(My Enel isn't evolved, ~_~)
I've been using:
Jozu/Jozu
Capone
Kaku
Hina
Ivankov
The problem I have, is Kaku is usually locked so I can't pair him with Hina. Ideally I'd like to put Ivankov in the lower slot, along with Kaku/Hina. Have Ivankov locked, knock Blackbeard's health down to around 20%, then use Capone, Kaku, and Hina to finish him off. It doesn't happen, though, so I BARELY kill him before he kills me, unless I get lucky with orbs. It doesn't help that a few of the members are around Level 40-50.
Oh well, maybe I'll have Killer when he returns. That's the hope.
Congrats to everyone finishing off their Blackbeard! I'll have to wait until later to reliably farm him.
(My Enel isn't evolved, ~_~)
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Tip for anyone having trouble building a team due to BB's lock potentially screwing them over: You can force close the app, restart and choose to continue the battle in order to redo the random lock until he locks the one you want him too.
I had to do this the first time around, but now I have no problem with the fight due to having Enel and Doffy.
I wish I knew this beforehand. I kept moving Kaku around and BB kept locking him at an uncanny degree.
With Kaku unlocked I just burst him down. Without him, I'm left with like 10% of BBs health or less.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Enel makes BB a jooooke. I can burst him down from like 75% lol. I'm 4 CD / 4 Lock, but I'm on a business trip and have only gotten like 20 runs in.
What does the Boa ship do in Japan?
What does the Boa ship do in Japan?
Majukun
Member
1.5x ATK + 1.35x HP to Freedom
Reduces the HP of every class but Freedom by a significant amount (the Aisa kind of reduction it seems)
15 turn special that heals the crew by 6,500 HP