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Orphan Black - new Sci-Fi thriller - Saturdays on BBC America

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ivysaur12

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Watched up to 105 last night. Alison is clearly the best clone -- hilarious and also slightly mental. I love it.

I'm really enjoying this show. That being said, I do have some issues with the show that have started to creep up as more than just a passing disappointment.

Paul is awful. He's a (beautifully) wooden actor compared to Tatiana, but his character thus far has been maddening. He's mad at Beth. He leaves Beth even though he's supposed to watch Beth. He comes back and fucks Beth. He leaves. He comes back. Fucks again. Goes to the station. And he's also supposed to be the guy that watches her?

Not to mention that the moment that the clones discover that Paul could maybe potentially be watching them, Alison just happens to overhear a very damning phone call from her husband that makes it seem like he could also be watching her. What? After her years of marriage, the first time she ever gets an inkling that her husband has been hiding something sinister from her is the moment that they realize that some people could be watching them.

Vic is stupid. At least Paul is somehow related to the clones. I don't really care about Vic and he's acting as a C story that I'm not particularly fond of and (at this point) doesn't do anything to further the story or drive anything interestingly emotional for Sarah. He's just a convenient road block.

I'm really enjoying the show, besides those issues. The clones are fantastic, Felix and Mrs. S are great, the world building has been surprisingly grounded. The series also has a refreshing sense of humor, something a lot of genre shows lack.
 
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Clevinger

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ivysaur12 said:
Paul is awful. He's a (beautifully) wooden actor compared to Tatiana, but his character thus far has been maddening. He's mad at Beth. He leaves Beth even though he's supposed to watch Beth. He comes back and fucks Beth. He leaves. He comes back. Fucks again. Goes to the station. And he's also supposed to be the guy that watches her?
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Yes! A fellow Paul hater. He's as good looking as he is a horrible actor. The fact that almost all his scenes are just with Tatiana only makes it worse.
 
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ivysaur12

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Clevinger said:
Yes! A fellow Paul hater. He's as good looking as he is a horrible actor. The fact that almost all his scenes are just with Tatiana only makes it worse.
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He's a soap actor. I get it. He probably can do melodrama well. But he's in the same scenes as a woman who might get an Emmy nomination for this role.

Still...

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ag-my001

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ivysaur12 said:
Something that's been bothering me about the premiere: What was the odds that both Beth and Sarah would be at the same place and the same time so she could assume her identity? I mean, that seems to be a fairly huge coincidence. Is there a reason they're both there?

(Bypassing the last half of the season of Justified for now to power through Orphan Black)
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Well Sarah obviously didn't start out in Toronto, neither did Helena. We're not really told about Cosima, U.S./Canada crossings are still easy enough for citizens of either country. Beth and Alison are probably the only two that started out close to the city, though you never know with job transfers or police assignments. Did they ever say how the original three club members met? I'm still expecting the "big" goal, besides the patent and new genes/phenotypes, was the ultimate nature vs. nurture experiment. One clone each in many different countries and economic situations.
 
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Fantastical

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ivysaur12 said:
He's a soap actor. I get it. He probably can do melodrama well. But he's in the same scenes as a woman who might get an Emmy nomination for this role.

Still...

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I was really hoping they would kill him off. He's really pretty, but yeah his scenes are awful.
 
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ivysaur12

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Red herring of Alison's husband was great. Still think Paul is worthless. Vic is funny, but unneeded.

Also, the actor that plays Felix is FANTASTIC. And he has great chemistry with Tatiana. Also, Tatiana has great chemistry with Tatiana.
 
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ivysaur12

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The end of 108 >>>>>>>>>> the end of season 3 of Downton

This show has some flaws, but it's incredibly fun and is at least attempting to engage with the viewer on a deeper level.

Helena in the club > everything else
 
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Fantastical

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ivysaur12 said:
The end of 108 >>>>>>>>>> the end of season 3 of Downton

This show has some flaws, but it's incredibly fun and is at least attempting to engage with the viewer on a deeper level.

Helena in the club > everything else
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Get ready for the finale. Crazy stuff.
 
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ivysaur12

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Fantastical said:
Get ready for the finale. Crazy stuff.
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Yeah. Wow. Nuts. I still don't quite understand the larger picture, but I suppose that's still in the dark. I almost teared up when Cosima realized they're all patened.

Also, I felt it wasn't going to be Ainsley. That's going to mess up Alison when she realizes what she did.

GREAT show. Tatiana for the Emmy!
 
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Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I'm about to start with this show on recommendation of Clevinger, Cornballer, Ratsky and dead souls. If I dislike it it'll be on you :p
 
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Fantastical

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ag-my001 said:
Saw this video on the official tumblr. Fan-made trailer that really sells the show.
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Only problem is that it kinda spoils some stuff. Orphan Black is the best going in knowing nothing. Like literally nothing about the show. That's a hard sell, but I want to get people to do this so I can actually talk to people about the show. :p
 
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Fantastical

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Probably my favorite situation/moment in this show is the house party. It is the perfect scene to show how incredibly insane this show is. The only way that scene could have gotten crazier is if Helena entered the house.
 
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Clevinger

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Tatiana's best look in the show was the hooker outfit, that weird half braided hair, and the pound of eye shadow on. Punk hooker. I loved it.
 
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Fantastical

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Clevinger said:
Tatiana's best look in the show was the hooker outfit, that weird half braided hair, and the pound of eye shadow on. Punk hooker. I loved it.
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I was JUST about to post that that was her worst look. It just wreaked of trying too hard for me. Honestly, and I'm gay so maybe I'm not the best judge, but I thought her best look was Cosima. Maybe that's also because I thought she was the best clone. I don't know... I've never seen a girl actually look better with dreads, and I think she did. Plus Cosima is just so bubbly and enthusiastic. And her glasses rock. I <3 Cosima. When she found out that Delphine was playing her I felt so bad for her.

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#SciClone
 
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Sober

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Best clone is Alison because: bangs, yoga pants, also that really high-strung voice.

Also all those crazy adventures she gets into.
 
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Clevinger

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Fantastical said:
I was JUST about to post that that was her worst look. It just wreaked of trying too hard for me.
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I think her being a sort of ridiculous/goofy punk girl was somewhat intentional. But it looked hot is what I'm saying. Or maybe I have a weird braided-only-on-one-side-of-head fetish.

I've never seen a girl actually look better with dreads, and I think she did.
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Yeah. I don't really remember seeing a girl look good in dreads besides her. I'm blanking.
 
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Ducarmel

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I hope she does come back, Helena was my fav of the clones. Hope she ditches the crazy cult and acts on her own free will.
 
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aceface

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Ducarmel said:
I hope she does come back, Helena was my fav of the clones. Hope she ditches the crazy cult and acts on her own free will.
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I thought she was acting on her own free will at the end and was no less crazy, lol. They did kill that guy that was controlling her after all.

I thought for sure they were going to redeem Helena but nope, still crazy as hell in that last episode.
 
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Ducarmel

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aceface said:
I thought she was acting on her own free will at the end and was no less crazy, lol. They did kill that guy that was controlling her after all.

I thought for sure they were going to redeem Helena but nope, still crazy as hell in that last episode.
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I think they hinted the Proletheans are actively against The Dyad Institute practices, I would think Tomas was not the only one to know about one of there biggest asset.

But your right in the end she did not want to do what Tomas wanted and was just being herself.
 
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Cornballer

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NY Mag soliciting questions for a showrunner Q&A later this week.

- NY Mag: Orphan Black Showrunners Graeme Manson and John Fawcett Are Taking Your Season-One Questions
If you’re still reeling from the first-season finale of BBC America's Orphan Black, we feel you. (And if you haven’t gotten onboard yet, what are you waiting for? Spoilers ahoy! Come back after you’ve binge-watched!) The tangled web that ensnared Sarah Manning and her clones devolved into a big, bloody mess by the end, leaving several dead and us with many cliff-hangers. What’s Mrs. S. hiding? Was Aynesley in cahoots with Donnie? Who is Kira’s dad? New episodes won’t premiere until 2014, but series bosses Graeme Manson and John Fawcett have agreed to answer some of your burning questions about the season. Fire away in the comments below. We’ll send along the best ones and post their answers here later in the week.
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Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Posting here blindly so I don't stumble onto any spoilers.

So I just finished ep5 and Orphan Black is one of my favorite new shows of this season along with Hannibal. It's not high concept nor it has a crazy budget to blow on exuberant FX or the like, but it's really solid, feels slightly creepy at times and has a good sense of humor, which I appreciate. It also helps that Tatiana Maslany is doing an AMAZING job portraying different variations of the same person, so to speak.

All the clones so far (soccer mom*, geeky student**, punk rock ho) are exceedingly well acted and nuanced down to their body language; soccer mom clone (sorry, I'm terrible with names) trying to pass as her drifter sister was amazing, and so is her constant accent switching. This is the best meta-acting since Gjokaj in Dollhouse, which makes me think how damn good would have been that show if Tatiana had been cast as the main character instead of Dushku. Sigh.

Supporting characters are also good for the most part. Her ex is kind of awesome (if tad soft for his violent rep), Fee is a total riot 24/7 and nosy cop is kind of cool. The only exception is his supervisor/boyfriend, whose acting sucks quite fiercely. He reminds me of Stephen Amell, only Amell has some natural charm to him; this dude is just a cardboard cutout.

Anyway, I'm fully onboard and looking for the next season.

*those yoga pants... Jesus.
**man, I usually don't like dreads, but this girl pulls them off like I couldn't believe. Wow.
 
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Piecake

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Funky Papa said:
Posting here blindly so I don't stumble onto any spoilers.

So I just finished ep5 and Orphan Black is one of my favorite new shows of this season along with Hannibal. It's not high concept nor it has a crazy budget to blow on exuberant FX or the like, but it's really solid, feels slightly creepy at times and has a good sense of humor, which I appreciate. It also helps that Tatiana Maslany is doing an AMAZING job portraying different variations of the same person, so to speak.

All the clones so far (soccer mom*, geeky student**, punk rock ho) are exceedingly well acted and nuanced down to their body language; soccer mom clone (sorry, I'm terrible with names) trying to pass as her drifter sister was amazing, and so is her constant accent switching. This is the best meta-acting since Gjokaj in Dollhouse, which makes me think how damn good would have been that show if Tatiana had been cast as the main character instead of Dushku. Sigh.

Supporting characters are also good for the most part. Her ex is kind of awesome (if tad soft for his violent rep), Fee is a total riot 24/7 and nosy cop is kind of cool. The only exception is his supervisor/boyfriend, whose acting sucks quite fiercely. He reminds me of Stephen Amell, only Amell has some natural charm to him; this dude is just a cardboard cutout.

Anyway, I'm fully onboard and looking for the next season.

*those yoga pants... Jesus.
**man, I usually don't like dreads, but this girl pulls them off like I couldn't believe. Wow.
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I think Standard Good-Looking guy 2.0 gets better as the show goes on, mostly because he has more to work with in later episodes. So yea, id call him an okay actor since he can't do shit with nothing, and we is given something he does alright
 
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Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Also, soccer mom-clone being outraged but not suprised at rock punk ho banging her dead clone's boyfriend was hilarious.

"You did what? Of course you did..."
 
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shadowkat

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Morrigan Targaryen said:
Great article, agreed on every point. And lol @ the jello scene. It's funny how memorable this scene is, eh? There's just something about a crazy killer woman eating jello (and putting salt on it, IIRC xD) that's just adorable, somehow. o_O
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I think that was sugar but yeah, the jello scene and Helena dancing in the club are really memorable scenes.
 
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Cornballer

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- LA Times: 'Orphan Black': Join a live chat with Tatiana Maslany Wednesday
Join actress Tatiana Maslany at 10 a.m. (Pacific) Wednesday for a live video chat about Maslany's multiple turns in BBC America's sci-fi thriller TV series "Orphan Black."

In the first-year show, Maslany plays Sarah, a hard-luck case wanting to reunite with her young daughter. In the season's first episode, she sees a woman resembling her commit suicide at a train station. Soon, Sarah finds there are many other identical versions of herself -- science geek, soccer mom, punker -- and, yes, they are clones and, of course, there are conspiracies surrounding them and much unraveling to be done.

In all, Maslany plays a dozen characters or versions of Sarah playing clones or Sarah playing clones impersonating clones or ... well, we'll stop here because it's making our heads hurt. Whatever the guise, Maslany is amazing. If you want to get technical about it, you could nominate the 27-year-old Canadian actress for an Emmy in lead actress and over in the supporting category for the fully realized way she brings all these characters to life. It's brilliant work, arguably the best of the year, and it's heartening to see that others are recognizing it too.

So join us Wednesday morning, flow charts and questions in hand, as we talk to one of the season's great discoveries.
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