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Orphan Black Season 5 |OT| The Final Trip Saturdays at 10/9c on BBC America
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Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Rachel redeemed, wow :O
Dammit Siobhan. That death was really sad. Don't give a shit about Gracie but S. was one of the best characters <3
Dammit Siobhan. That death was really sad. Don't give a shit about Gracie but S. was one of the best characters <3
Most female secondary characters exist solely in relation to the male lead. For once, we get the opposite... I'm fine with that.
To be fair she's like 13 months pregnant
Seriously, I'm confused about the timeline now
I've just absolutely loved these last two episodes. Especially the most recent one. While I could sense something bad about to happen at the end, Felix's art show was just so much more fun to watch than I ever expected it to be.
Furthermore, it just cemented Tatiana's incredible prowess at building these clones into such thoroughly distinct characters. I loved it!
Furthermore, it just cemented Tatiana's incredible prowess at building these clones into such thoroughly distinct characters. I loved it!
Jay Shadow
Member
First 3 seasons happen in the span of about 2 months. Then there's a time skip when Sarah goes to Antarctica for like half a year. Then the rest happens again in a month or two.
Not saying their timeline makes any damn sense at all when you cram all those events in, but that's pretty much what it is.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
They should've thrown in accelerated aging as a thing to explain Kira aging like four years over the course of a year or however the hell long it's been in the show's timeline. That's the price of having children in roles of any significance.
Jay Shadow
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Should have just written her off the island like other special kids on shows with compressed timelines.
Kira's looked about the same up until now.
Charlotte's looked about the same, maybe taller now.
KibblesBits
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Charlotte, yes she looks relatively the same.
Kira has aged with production and it shows. Just go back to season one and compare.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Penultimate episode
Jay Shadow
Member
When I was thinking of all the ways this Helena-centric episode could start, nun masturbation never crossed my mind.
also:
also:
Those sons of bitches. More than just a painting homage.
Bob Dobalina
Member
Heh, nice catch.
No idea what to expect for next week; I don't know how they plan to wrap all this up in 1 episode.
No idea what to expect for next week; I don't know how they plan to wrap all this up in 1 episode.
TheNatureBoy
Member
I could see the death of PT and the birth of Helena's babies.
Fitting that even PT's hair would be a lie.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
It's sort of bugging me that they didn't use the same actress for young Helena that they did with young Sarah.
Other than that though, I thought it was a great episode.
Wow, good eye!
Other than that though, I thought it was a great episode.
Wow, good eye!
Jay Shadow
Member
For those who didn't get the promo with footage in their airing.
Also, the credits featuring Helena singing along with the promo music.
Also, the credits featuring Helena singing along with the promo music.
dead souls
Member
The only bad thing about that episode was that I.Want.The.Finale.Now.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Undead Fantasy
Member
I'm disappointed on how they ended Mark. For the last castor I expected better.
When did Ira die btw?
When did Ira die btw?
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Yeah that was weird I assume that was either due to availability or they needed a kid who could speak Ukrainian.
Jay Shadow
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I don't think he officially died on screen, but he was glitching pretty bad at the point that he decided to stay with Susan's dead body instead of leave with Cosima.
They essentially didn't want to put the pressure on her to do what Tat does. She was hired originally to play young Rachel so they had her continue to play young Rachel. Helena is a completely different beast and they wanted to cast someone specifically for that. She was younger too, which lets them get away with it a bit more.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Still could have tried making her look a bit more like Charlotte...
Anyway, damn, Helena's hardcore. I love when that noise music starts every time she commits violence. <3
Now that I think of it... I think this is the first time I've seen a scene with a masturbating woman on regular TV.
Anyway, damn, Helena's hardcore. I love when that noise music starts every time she commits violence. <3
Now that I think of it... I think this is the first time I've seen a scene with a masturbating woman on regular TV.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
- Weak end for Mark.
- Completely coincidental, but PT/John's fake hair thing reminded me of the Beyond the Black Rainbow antagonist reveal.
- Good ol' Helena violence.
eyeball_kid
Member
I thought they were going to break my heart (again) with Helena this week, but thankfully she went all sistra on Coady's ass.
Art really stepped it up this week. Seems like they're setting him up to go mano a mano with his "partner" in the finale.
I didn't really have a problem with young Helena; yeah, there was a visual difference, but I thought she really captured Helena's spirit and mannerisms.
I can't believe it's almost over.
Art really stepped it up this week. Seems like they're setting him up to go mano a mano with his "partner" in the finale.
I didn't really have a problem with young Helena; yeah, there was a visual difference, but I thought she really captured Helena's spirit and mannerisms.
I can't believe it's almost over.
KibblesBits
Member
No, all the Castors are dead. No more left.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Final episode
Jay Shadow
Member
That was exactly the kind of ending I wanted. Get the conspiracy shit out of the way early and just hang with the girls for a while.
edit: oh shit, their twitter account pointed out the background stick figures in the poster are the amount of Ledas in the world
edit: oh shit, their twitter account pointed out the background stick figures in the poster are the amount of Ledas in the world
I really liked the finale a lot. Definitely the right call to finish wrapping up the thriller/conspiracy thing about half way in and give a nice long epilogue of sorts for the girls to have a proper ending together. Sarah facing off with PT and then Helena giving birth was a nice focus for the first half. And then what I wanted most was just a happy ending for the core four clones and I got it. I'm happy with how things ended.
I remember what a fun surprise the first episode was and it took me for quite a ride that first season. I loved it. Tatiana's performance has just been sensational. Her and the first season will be my fondest memories of the show. I did enjoy these last two seasons quite a bit as well. 2 and 3 were a bit messy for me and blend together a bit in my mind. I will definitely miss the show and seeing Tatiana as all the clones. Glad it went out on such a good note.
I remember what a fun surprise the first episode was and it took me for quite a ride that first season. I loved it. Tatiana's performance has just been sensational. Her and the first season will be my fondest memories of the show. I did enjoy these last two seasons quite a bit as well. 2 and 3 were a bit messy for me and blend together a bit in my mind. I will definitely miss the show and seeing Tatiana as all the clones. Glad it went out on such a good note.
TheNatureBoy
Member
Yeah, all around I thought it was a really emotional and satisfying end to the series. The Helena birth scene and all of the sisters around Allison's backyard were really great. Also loved the names Helena picked for her boys.
So glad Tatiana won an Emmy for her role(s), 5 seasons of the show and it's still amazing her performance as all the clones.
So glad Tatiana won an Emmy for her role(s), 5 seasons of the show and it's still amazing her performance as all the clones.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Great finale. As others have said, it was pretty much the perfect ending - the PT/Virginia/Neolution stuff was smartly dealt with in the first half so the rest of the episode could focus on the Sestras. Every character got a great ending (I appreciated that they didn't betray the integrity of the story and have Rachel join Clone Club for the sake of it) and there weren't any notable loose ends that were left dangling.
Clever!
Paul got enough attention when he was on the show and also got a good ending, so I don't feel that he needed a shoutout, but it was definitely weird that no one mentioned Cal especially seeing as how they were hinting at him being involved in the larger conspiracy somehow. I haven't seen the creators even mention him in interviews, which is definitely disappointing.
Clever!
Paul got enough attention when he was on the show and also got a good ending, so I don't feel that he needed a shoutout, but it was definitely weird that no one mentioned Cal especially seeing as how they were hinting at him being involved in the larger conspiracy somehow. I haven't seen the creators even mention him in interviews, which is definitely disappointing.
the_firewithin
Member
Got some feels from the ending. Helena picking those names was perfect. Really nice scene with them sitting by the fire. Donnie and Alison stay awesome.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
dead souls
Member
Great finale. Tatiana Maslany gave a performance that will probably never be topped, due to both her talent and the nature of the show.
Loved the Donnie striptease for the dadbod fans.
Loved the Donnie striptease for the dadbod fans.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
SAME
Who was Cal?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Kira's dad and Sarah's ex. Played by Michiel Huisman.
That was a pretty good finale, they wrapped pretty much addressed everything without it being wrapped up too neatly. Like others said, it was the right decision to wrap up the Neolution stuff early because frankly it was the worst part of the show. The appeal of the show was the sisterhood so its fitting that the last dilemma was solved with them coming together to help lift each other up.
Yea that was kinda dumb but they didn't linger on it too long.
Yea that was kinda dumb but they didn't linger on it too long.
Jay Shadow
Member
Even though Delphine most likely would have done it, I'd like to think Cosima administered the cure to Krystal and the clone thing still just didn't register with her at all.
Also, Cynthia Galant (Charlotte) might be the person who enjoys being a part of the show the most.
Also, Cynthia Galant (Charlotte) might be the person who enjoys being a part of the show the most.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Finished everything. Burned through 8-10.
Brief thoughts on episode 9:
Castor went out not with a bang but with a whimper. Reminds me of how much potential that storyline had that's only really half-realized in the end. Mark getting played after Gracie bites the dust was just cruel, but is almost typical for Orphan Black.
Helena flashbacks were great, though it was a very odd choice not using the same actress portraying the Clones' younger selves. Not crazy jarring, but I couldn't help but think sticking with Cynthia Galant would've been better.
Episode 10:
Thank god they only really gave the conspiracy side half an episode. I really liked the focus on the sisters after everything. Each character got their endings as appropriate to them.
Sara trying not to be a screw up (but screwing up, but trying not to!) is a good compromise for her character. She isn't completely changed, and she's still dealing with losing S.
Rachel flipping to Sara's side silently is also a good end to her arc. She isn't suddenly in Clone Club, either. I thought her character, especially as this season went on, was the most interesting of all the main clones. Writers really played up her vulnerabilities and that's where Rachel's character shines, especially with her kinks. I would've liked to see a final scene of her and Sara talking, though obviously not in the direction of being friends. Being a silent informant works out well.
Cosima and Delphine saving the clones around the world is cool as hell. Give me an extra 1-hour episode of this.
Helena naming her kids Arthur and Donnie is perfect. The final shot with the camera briefly showing the grave she made for her eggs in the nitrogen container was a nice touch.
So, "Orphan Black" is the name of Helena's memoir, which she wrote in Ukrainian and was translating in English as she was reading it. Does that make "Orphan Black" her rough translation from Ukrainian to English (hence "that's a dumb title")? Or is it intentional? It makes sense as is, as Cosima says.
I'll maybe add in more thoughts, but all in all, a great ending.
Brief thoughts on episode 9:
Castor went out not with a bang but with a whimper. Reminds me of how much potential that storyline had that's only really half-realized in the end. Mark getting played after Gracie bites the dust was just cruel, but is almost typical for Orphan Black.
Helena flashbacks were great, though it was a very odd choice not using the same actress portraying the Clones' younger selves. Not crazy jarring, but I couldn't help but think sticking with Cynthia Galant would've been better.
Episode 10:
Thank god they only really gave the conspiracy side half an episode. I really liked the focus on the sisters after everything. Each character got their endings as appropriate to them.
Sara trying not to be a screw up (but screwing up, but trying not to!) is a good compromise for her character. She isn't completely changed, and she's still dealing with losing S.
Rachel flipping to Sara's side silently is also a good end to her arc. She isn't suddenly in Clone Club, either. I thought her character, especially as this season went on, was the most interesting of all the main clones. Writers really played up her vulnerabilities and that's where Rachel's character shines, especially with her kinks. I would've liked to see a final scene of her and Sara talking, though obviously not in the direction of being friends. Being a silent informant works out well.
Cosima and Delphine saving the clones around the world is cool as hell. Give me an extra 1-hour episode of this.
Helena naming her kids Arthur and Donnie is perfect. The final shot with the camera briefly showing the grave she made for her eggs in the nitrogen container was a nice touch.
So, "Orphan Black" is the name of Helena's memoir, which she wrote in Ukrainian and was translating in English as she was reading it. Does that make "Orphan Black" her rough translation from Ukrainian to English (hence "that's a dumb title")? Or is it intentional? It makes sense as is, as Cosima says.
I'll maybe add in more thoughts, but all in all, a great ending.
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