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OS X El Capitan [OT]
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Banjotanooki
Member
I have an early 2011 as well but haven't done the upgrade yet. Why does iTunes suck?
Resident_UA
Member
Why can't they just copy Windows snapping to the side instead of this shit split view? Why make it so complicated?!
Because Windows sometimes snaps windows when you don't want it to. With this you have the one extra click of opening mission control, but it's a more deliberate action.
Junior Mint
Member
Not really much here if you aren't all-in with the Apple ecosystem is there? I guess it runs a bit better on my 2012 MBA than Yosemite.
I wish I were joking but the font change is probably the most exciting part of this update for me.
Personally, I think the split view (and even add full screen view to that) implementation on Mac is awful. BetterTouchTool does it better and its been available for years. I still remember when Mac users denounced the Windows-style maximize button claiming that a windowed applications workflow was much more efficient lol. And now there's a much worse version of the maximize button.
I wish I were joking but the font change is probably the most exciting part of this update for me.
Personally, I think the split view (and even add full screen view to that) implementation on Mac is awful. BetterTouchTool does it better and its been available for years. I still remember when Mac users denounced the Windows-style maximize button claiming that a windowed applications workflow was much more efficient lol. And now there's a much worse version of the maximize button.
I still maintain that view; I don't use maximize for anything. Spaces + Cmd Tabbing between applications works better for my brain.
Yea they really threw a bone to the original rMBP folks with their HD4000 straining to do lots of effects with all those pixels. Sounds like the performance is now where it always should have been.
HUELEN10
Member
What settings?
Resident_UA
Member
I've been using Windows snapping since it came out and it NEVER happened to me. That sounds like very poor excuse.
fataliteter
Member
I haven't upgraded yet, but from the reviews I've read it seems Apple's solution leaves a lot to be desired. I currently use a free program called Spectacle (there are other options as well: BetterTouchTool, Moom, etc.) and it seems to do a much better job of arranging my open windows than Apple's full screen implementation.
I don't have a Windows 10 machine, but from what I've seen they seem to have perfected window management by borrowing the things that OS X does well (Mission Control/Spaces) and combining it with Aero Snap.
Resident_UA
Member
Yup. They even added virtual desktops to Windows 10. There's nothing wrong with borrowing ideas
I tried using BetterTouchTool but for some reason I don't trust external programs on OS X. Maybe I'll just go back to that...
With expose/mission control I usually never feel the need to split windows when using a Mac.
It is nice sometimes when you want to be viewing two documents next to each other, but for the most part it is not a compelling feature and I don't find its current implementation something I will be using a lot.
It is nice sometimes when you want to be viewing two documents next to each other, but for the most part it is not a compelling feature and I don't find its current implementation something I will be using a lot.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Nice!
I'm able to use the transparency effects-enabled on my early 2011 Macbook Pro while connected to an external 2560 x 1600 monitor.
Before with transparency on, windows would chug juuuust enough to be annoying. Now it's all silky shmoove.
I'm able to use the transparency effects-enabled on my early 2011 Macbook Pro while connected to an external 2560 x 1600 monitor.
Before with transparency on, windows would chug juuuust enough to be annoying. Now it's all silky shmoove.
LordOfChaos
Member
Leave it on overnight for two days if you want to not wait. Otherwise it could take a week.
holygeesus
Banned
Has anyone noticed that after using split screen with Safari and another app, if you close the 'other app' and make Safari full screen on it's own again, that the menu bar is messed up? If you scroll through web pages, they pop out of the top of the menu rather than disappear beneath it. Odd.
HUELEN10
Member
So let me get this straight....
Try opening TextEdit or preview.
Nothing comes up on screen?
infiniteloop
Member
If i open them, i get the file browser with iCloud selected.
Preview no windows. Textedit, a blank document window.
I don't have iCloud Drive enabled so maybe that's it.
Skellig Gra
Member
Shit you guys just got split view? I wouldn't get anything done at work without that.
HUELEN10
Member
Barkley's Justice
Member
Anyone enable TRIM support for their 3rd party SSD?
I have a 256Gb Samsung SSD 840 PRO and considering going in.
I have a 256Gb Samsung SSD 840 PRO and considering going in.
HUELEN10
Member
Split View and Window snapping are 2 very different things.
Go to the iCloud Drive options and uncheck Textedit.
Checking on my work comp with iCloud not enabled for TextEdit, I still get a file browser. I dunno how to make it just automatically open a new doc though, doesn't seem to be any option in prefs (this has been a thing since at least 10.10 or maybe 10.9.)
Resident_UA
Member
How are they different?!!!
HUELEN10
Member
Window snapping maximizes, goes left half, or goes right half and can be combined with the windowed desktop so you can ran age Windows on the side.
Split view is 2 full screen apps with an adjustable divider. There is no Windows desktop usability in this mode. You can literally only do 2 things at once on a split-view screen.
There is a difference. Which is why split view plus Windows snapping with BTW combined with good full screen apps and multiple desktops makes a great team!
Zeyphersan
Banned
Windows snapping attaches the program to different sides of the screen, split view actually sends the programs to a new desktop where the two programs are the only thing that exist there
I have BetterSnapTool for my snapping needs, but can definitely see utility in Split View
infiniteloop
Member
don't think you can do the same app on both sides of the split.
Hey, I ran into this issue too. For whatever reason, all 500MB of Microsoft fonts are now duplicated in the application bundle for each individual Office app. Woo.
Anyway, to get to them, choose "Show Package Contents" on Word, Excel, whatever, and go to Contents > Resources > Fonts. Then you can copy those into ~/Library/Fonts.
I wonder if you could get away with doing that and then deleting all the duplicate font folders within the apps themselves. Haven't tried it, though.
I can't view JPGs with a size of 6000x4000 in Preview anymore. The pic shows up, then the whole window goes either grey or green after a second. Smaller JPEGs and RAW files work fine.
Safari and Finder have also crashed once since I upgraded yesterday, which never happened to me in Yosemite.
SMB support is still FUBAR.
Not impressed with the supposed stability of El Capitan.
Animations are much more fluid though, I'll give them that. And I love the new font.
Safari and Finder have also crashed once since I upgraded yesterday, which never happened to me in Yosemite.
SMB support is still FUBAR.
Not impressed with the supposed stability of El Capitan.
Animations are much more fluid though, I'll give them that. And I love the new font.
So I had been using the El Capitan PB on my work laptop and I ran into problems with compatibility with work stuff that did not support El Capitan yet...
... so now I want to stop running the PB's on my work laptop.
... Problem is that it auto-installed the 10.11.1 PB recently.
So if I download and install the OSX El Capitan public release, then will it install OK? Will it mess up my files on my computer to go from 10.11.1 PB to 10.11?
Would I be better of just turning off auto update and waiting for the 10.11.1 public release before getting off the PB train?
Thanks again!
... so now I want to stop running the PB's on my work laptop.
... Problem is that it auto-installed the 10.11.1 PB recently.
So if I download and install the OSX El Capitan public release, then will it install OK? Will it mess up my files on my computer to go from 10.11.1 PB to 10.11?
Would I be better of just turning off auto update and waiting for the 10.11.1 public release before getting off the PB train?
Thanks again!
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I'm getting a lot of spinning beachballs and frozen screens.
Still amazes me Adobe can't ship compatibility patches for its software on release.
LordOfChaos
Member
Is the final release any different than the GM by the way?
andchapman
Neo Member
I'm loving split view. This comes in handy with much of the work I do on my MacBook. However I did encounter an oddity. When testing spilt view with my browser as the first item and itunes as the second, it produced a 1/3 2/3 split instead of 50/50.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Someone yesterday posted that the release numbers are different, so yes.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Well I can't get any more perma-juniored than I already am.If there was a reason for perma-junioring, it'd be this statement
Though Bish could probably find a way.
BTW, so does Office 2011 work or not? I think that's what my dad uses.
They are not great at putting out timely updates. They've been talking about the October updates for their video products for awhile now, but apparently forgot to prepare for the new Mac operating system that is on an annual release schedule.
infiniteloop
Member
Outlook 2011 does not.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
He just told me he updated all by himself (He's growing up) and says Office is working fine for him. Especially emails.
Weird.
infiniteloop
Member
he's using 2016 maybe?
Resident_UA
Member
You are describing difference between having virtual desktops and not having them. Functionally Windows split screen and "Split View" are not going to be used differently. Especially now that Windows also has virtual desktop.
It's really messed up that there's no easy way to look at 2 things at once while using OS X.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Nope. It's a really old version. So unless there's something after 2011...
is Safari: AirPlay to stream to TV an El Capitan feature only or is it in Safari itself?
i want to use it for RedZone this Sunday but i don't want to update my OS until more bugs and stuff are worked out
this is beat street
i want to use it for RedZone this Sunday but i don't want to update my OS until more bugs and stuff are worked out
this is beat street
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
Anyone install El Capitan on the newer Mac Minis? Just wondering how it is running. If there are any major issues? Thinking about installing it for my in laws.